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Pakistan’s Oversized Submarine Ambitions

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Before his last term ended abruptly in a 1999 military coup, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif dreamed that Pakistan would become an “Asian Tiger,” comparable with the rising economies of Southeast Asia.

Pervez Musharraf and Asif Ali Zardari dashed those hopes: Islamabad is now US$58 billion in debt, and economic growth has slowed to a murmur. Nevertheless, Sharif has swept into power once again with an ambitious vision of Pakistan’s role in the world. “Undoubtedly, our foreign policy demands a brave revision” he told a national television audience in one of his first speeches as prime minister, without which Pakistan “could not become [one of the] Asian Tigers.”

That “brave revision” points in part to a robust naval modernization program, including a major push to revamp Pakistan’s fledgling submarine fleet. As a Muslim-majority country with a fully serviceable Navy (surface vessels, submarines and a naval air arm), the Pakistan Navy (PN) hopes to become “the guardian navy of the Gulf regions.” Haris Khan, a senior analyst at PakDef Military Consortium, an independent Tampa-based think tank, tells The Diplomat in an interview.

Pakistan’s desire for naval modernization is predicated on its sense of strategic position in the complex Indian Ocean region. “Pakistan needs and maintains a balanced navy that can and will play its role effectively and efficiently in the region.” Khan notes. The importance of that role is underscored by a stretch of maritime border at the mouth of the Gulf of Oman and the warm-water Gwadar Port, located just 250 miles from the Straits of Hormuz, a vital chokepoint through which 20 percent of global oil traffic passes daily.

Pakistan’s naval strategy is centered on a number of goals, such as deterring India, keeping sea lanes open to Pakistan’s Karachi port, and ensuring a “stable environment in the North Arabian Sea.” To that end, Sharif has promised that priority will be given to “critical projects,” including building and procuring new submarines and frigates, and constructing new naval bases at Turbat and Gwadar, Khan says. A large corps, with over 25,000 active personnel, including 3,000 Pakistani Marines and 1,000 Special Service Group members, gives Pakistan unique flexibility in conducting missions.

“Pakistan’s naval acquisition strategy can be seen largely as being proactive and innovative.” Khan says. It will need to be, not only to accomplish a host of ambitious regional goals, but to upgrade a submarine fleet in vital need of repair, the crux of the elite forces within the Pakistani Navy. “Two are French DCNS Agosta-70 which are being upgraded and three are AIP powered Agosta 90Bs. Two of the Agosta -90B were built and assembled locally at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works (KSEW),” Khan says. The submarines are equipped with French and German torpedoes, French SM-39 missiles and American harpoon missiles.

Although Defense Minister Tanveer Hussain promised that “all necessary resources” would be provided to enhance the Navy in an interview with the Associated Press of Pakistan this summer, being proactive and innovative has historically gotten the aspiring tiger into serious financial trouble.

Sharif’s plan faces familiar pitfalls. Former President Pervez Musharraf’s ambitious Armed Forces Development Plan (AFDP) envisioned a US$15 billion retrofit of Pakistan’s military by 2015, expanding the submarine fleet from eight to twelve. Since 2008, GDP has stagnated with an average annual growth rate of 2.5 percent, and Sharif was even forced to borrow another US$5 billion in his first days in office in a bid to prevent widespread blackouts.

Already a 2008 IMF deal forced the government to abandon a multi-billion dollar deal with Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW) for three U-214 submarines. A tentative US$6 billion deal with China to provide six diesel-electric submarines was also abandoned when Pakistan could not provide collateral. Although the plans are secret, with the Air Force’s AFDP shelved five years ago, “it would be safe to assume that Navy’s AFDP "had a “similar fate,” Khan says.

Pakistan’s domestic politics may present further complications for naval modernization. As noted above, lingering debt forced the government to agree to a fresh IMF bailout package, worth US$5.3 billion, in July. A recent suicide attack on a Christian church in Peshawar, which killed 73 people, underscored the difficulties Pakistan faces in quelling internal violence, even though Sharif has indicated a willingness to reach a settlement with the Pakistani Taliban. Although Pakistan faces other serious problems, including the worst energy crisis in its history, a school system in shambles and ongoing battles to control terrorism, losing control of the naval modernization drive could have precipitous consequences.

The Navy hopes that the creation of a nearly sixteen-ton fleet tanker will promote “greater self-reliance and the increased indigenization of defense equipment production,” Khan notes. But increased focus on that, and the establishment of the Naval Strategic Force Command (NSFC) under the care of the Strategic Planning Division (SPD)— the custodian of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons—may leave conventional submarine programs starved for both attention and funding.

This would be consistent with Pakistan’s long-standing goal of acquiring a sea-based nuclear deterrent to pursue an ambitious maritime strategy. According to Khan, since 2001 the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) has been working on KPC-3, a project “to design and manufacture a miniaturized nuclear power plant for a submarine.” In the long term, that may help Pakistan do less with more. PAEC and the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) have been working on a miniaturized plutonium warhead, a naval version of the Babur land attack cruise missile, which will further enhance Pakistan’s deterrent capability.

But doing more with less will also require Pakistan to be more efficient with the money it has on hand. “Strategic management has been another focus for the PN.” Khan says, referring to Pakistan’s Navy. To enhance the quality of manpower and improve efficiency, the navy has commissioned a review of its entire organization, and will restructure it where it deems necessary. Sharif certainly has the vision to turn Pakistan’s navy around. Whether he has the willpower is another question.

Andrew Detsch is editorial assistant at The Diplomat.
 
LOL. This writer had no idea what condition Pakistan was when Sir Musharraf took over from Ganja ji. He should have researched the facts and then would have realized that ganja ji was deposed because he had made Pakistan bankrupt.
It was Sir Musharraf who had initiated all military programs to make Pakistan stronger and we are seeing the benefits today.
 
Both Zadari and Nawaz destroyed the country. It was only Musharraf who brought the country back from shackles and turned it round. We Pakistani's have a very short memory which is why we are again seeing NS into the government who back in 1999 when his government was booted, people distributed sweats. Forget any modernization, we will be lucky to survive another 5 years of blood shed and corruption.
 
Today on some news channel there were news in which Sartaj Aziz was assuring that Subs will be provided to Navy on top priority basis.

Is there hope that PN will get some thing in class of U-214 or U-216 because as threat perception changes and grows PN needs robust capacity to handle it or we may see another blockade of our ports if any confrontation occurred with India in future.
 
you people make me laugh so hard I fart some time, all kids praising Musharaf time were in their early teens and dont even know what condition Pakistan was in, you idiots shows us where is all that development that happened in Musharaf's time. What happened when he left, did he take all those factories, power plants with him? do you even know what development means? fly overs and buildings are not developments thats where all of 25 billion USD he received for WOT were spent on. do you know whats happening with Railways, steel mills and hydro power plants, no money was spent on their upkeep and now we are paying for it, name a few new projects in musharaf time please
 
For once there is a writer that has really summed up the situation when it comes to Pakistan's defence. Our upgrade plans are shelved.. our resources mismanaged and depleted in the War on Terror.
 
you people make me laugh so hard I fart some time, all kids praising Musharaf time were in their early teens and dont even know what condition Pakistan was in, you idiots shows us where is all that development that happened in Musharaf's time. What happened when he left, did he take all those factories, power plants with him? do you even know what development means? fly overs and buildings are not developments thats where all of 25 billion USD he received for WOT were spent on. do you know whats happening with Railways, steel mills and hydro power plants, no money was spent on their upkeep and now we are paying for it, name a few new projects in musharaf time please

1. Tallest fountain in the world... no.. Asia.. no.. South Asia.. .well its tall ok(runs only on weekends)
2. Pakistan monument.. a beautiful monument to celebrate our greatness and power.. not loadshedding proof though(as certain wax figures inside found out to their disadvantage).
3. lets have the Mush supporters post the rest.

However, if you are interested in an analysis of Musharraf's economic achievements.. this article is quite balanced and provides both sides of the story before presenting its conclusions.
http://faculty.nps.edu/relooney/Rel-TOSJ-08.pdf
 
you people make me laugh so hard I fart some time, all kids praising Musharaf time were in their early teens and dont even know what condition Pakistan was in, you idiots shows us where is all that development that happened in Musharaf's time. What happened when he left, did he take all those factories, power plants with him? do you even know what development means? fly overs and buildings are not developments thats where all of 25 billion USD he received for WOT were spent on. do you know whats happening with Railways, steel mills and hydro power plants, no money was spent on their upkeep and now we are paying for it, name a few new projects in musharaf time please

Musharraf government was at least 10 times better then all regimes in last 40 years. Economics development is not something that happens overnight. It was in 2006-07 that Pakistan economy was at take-off stage, when all these Chief justice drama and NRO etc. hot the nation again and we went back to square one. Hale the democracy and Azaad Adliya.

Can you please tell me where did you come up with this figure of $25 billions? Coalition support fund was something that US would reimburse the money that PA will spend on its operation against terrorist.
To clarify what it is, Pakistan spent money on operations first and then send the bill to US for approval and then US would released those money to us in trenches.
The other US aid is for certain developmental projects, but US never just give dollars to Pakistan to spend as Pakistan wishes. It finance projects of its own choosing and all that under US consultants and US companies as well.

The projects which Musharraf started and completed were Gwadar port, Coastal Highway, Ghazi Barotha, Mangla Dam raising and best of all Dr. Atta-ur-Rehaman's visionary projects under HEC. Ask any person related to IT. All those millions of Pakistani young IT professionals are here because of Atta-ur-Rehamn. If he may have been there for other 10 years, Pakistan would have been the hub of IT services.

Criticize what was bad, but appreciate the good and speak full truth. Our politicians and media, judiciary, religious leaders have fucked-up this beautiful nation with half truths and naked lies already.
 
“Undoubtedly, our foreign policy demands a brave revision” he told a national television audience in one of his first speeches as prime minister, without which Pakistan “could not become [one of the] Asian Tigers.”
For starters, here's a 'brave revision' in foreign policy:

First, let foreign policy be the prerogative of the democratically elected government and NOT the Pakistan Army.
Second, stop all terror funding and the use of terror as state policy.
Third, Demolish all terror training camps in Pakistan.
Fourth, use more army divisions in the North West to finish off the TTP. (For that some formations need to be pulled out from the East and re-assigned to the West to take on the TTP and other assorted extremist groups, for which there must be a desire for peace with India).
Fifth, tax the rich landlords and use the proceeds for development.

These actions would build confidence with the international community to invest in Pakistan. The money then can be used for augmenting Pakistan's defence.

Without a paradigm shift in existing policies, it is just going to be more of the same till the cows come home.
 
Pakistan Navy along with other Friendly Arab countries should look to do JV with Germans.... I would love to see 30++ Fleet of Submarines in PN
 

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