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Pakistan’s Precipitous Decline

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/opinion/global/pakistans-precipitous-decline.html

WASHINGTON — Pakistanis are celebrating the accomplishment of an elected government — for the first time in the country’s history — serving in office for the full five years of its constitutional term. Never mind that this is the only accomplishment of that government, or that the news is drowned out by the horror stories that continue to emanate from Pakistan. These only serve to solidify the impression of an increasingly dysfunctional, fragmented, very troubled state, on which much depends, but in which fragility and instability continue to mount.

Atrocity builds on atrocity. Minorities are targeted and murdered — with seeming impunity — by extremists who brag publicly about doing so. And the violence is not limited to minorities. Anyone who does not meet a narrow and exclusive definition of “Muslim,” as defined by religious fundamentalists, has come under increasing attack. The ubiquitous Sufi shrines, revered by perhaps half of the Sunni population, are assaulted by extremists who regard them as apostate. Humanitarians delivering social and medical services to the poor are gunned down in cold blood — witness the murder of polio vaccine and other health workers, and that of Parveen Rehman, the head of Pakistan’s celebrated urban social service NGO, the Orangi project of Karachi. And now we learn that, with an election coming, the political parties are wooing the perpetrators, rather than pledging to defeat them.

Predictions about Pakistan, a growth industry today but one that has kept scholars and pundits busy for decades, has often produced insightful and unsettling analyses. Almost all observers come to the same conclusion — Pakistan will muddle through for the foreseeable future. We view Pakistan either through “a glass half full,” meaning that there is hope that someday, in some way, the country will turn around, or through “a glass half empty,” meaning that its long-term trajectory is toward failure, but that it will hold together during our lifetime (glued by the army).

But the increasingly grim news out of Pakistan forcefully reminds me of what my dear friend, the late Sir Hilary Synnott, former British high commissioner to Pakistan, argued a few years ago. The half-full or half-empty glass was not, he said, the appropriate metaphor. Analysts should, he insisted, look at Pakistan through the image of “a glass too large,” by which he meant a country constantly overreaching.

I think Sir Hilary was on to something. Pakistan has historically tried to punch above its weight. This derives mainly from its historic regard of India as its existential threat. This elevated the army, gave it a public imprimatur above the politicians, and allowed it to take — almost as its right — most of the state’s resources to maintain an imagined parity with India. To add to its arsenal, the army recruited religious militants to fight as proxies against India and in Afghanistan. The irony is that the army has lost control of these proxies, and it is they who are now carrying out the attacks against the state and its citizens.

In addition to the army, Pakistan inherited its other political and economic institutions from the British (and to some extent the Moguls) and, as in almost all ex-colonial countries, these were taken over by indigenous elites and the state, for the benefit of those elites and the state. This suited the army just fine, as these institutions were soon dwarfed vis-à-vis the army, and remain so. Had its society remained so structured, over time those political and economic institutions might have become stronger and more independent, and Pakistan more modern. Sometimes that happens, but infrequently. The addition of these now-autonomous militant proxies to an already unpromising mix made that mix even more toxic, and modernization much less likely.

Before our eyes, the Pakistani state, which seems to have given in without a murmur to the exclusionist narrative of the fundamentalists, may have begun to unravel. Sir Hilary’s metaphor of “a glass too large” may have even wider application and meaning. How can a state continue to muddle through when it has lost the fundamental requisite of a state, its monopoly on the use and definition of legitimate violence? How much longer before Pakistanis conclude that the basic protection their state is supposed to provide its citizens — of life and property — is absent.

The feeling comes that the inflection point of the “muddle through” curve is being reached, that in effect, the too-large glass we should look through has now filled to overflowing with problems that Pakistan cannot handle — a weak state under attack from the monsters it created, with mostly dysfunctional political and economic institutions, going in a vicious circle, and showing no promise or hope of transformation. The West, as well as Pakistan’s regional neighbors, should be thinking about the political and strategic implications of an accelerated decline toward state failure in this key, nuclear-armed country.

William Milam is a former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan and a scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center.
 
The article is quite right.

Pakistan has historically punched above its weight - by sticking with alliances and deals.


And Pakistan is now paying for those alliances and deals.

But the sad part is - Pakistani's never learn from their mistakes. They are willing to repeat their mistakes again and again.

Now, they are willing to substitute what USA was to their fathers and grandfathers - a much loved country with unlimited access to anything in Pakistan - military bases, cantonments, etc for China today by the current generation. Pakistani's are equally happy in giving China military bases, ports, etc, etc just like their fathers were in giving these to USA.

They just never learn. Yet hey hope that somehow things will be different with China than how they panned out with USA.
 
Pakistani's are equally happy in giving China military bases, ports, etc, etc just like their fathers were in giving these to USA.

They just never learn. Yet hey hope that somehow things will be different with China than how they panned out with USA.

Our policy is "No overseas military bases".

So it really will be different.
 
The article is quite right.

Pakistan has historically punched above its weight - by sticking with alliances and deals.


And Pakistan is now paying for those alliances and deals.

But the sad part is - Pakistani's never learn from their mistakes. They are willing to repeat their mistakes again and again.

Now, they are willing to substitute what USA was to their fathers and grandfathers - a much loved country with unlimited access to anything in Pakistan - military bases, cantonments, etc for China today by the current generation. Pakistani's are equally happy in giving China military bases, ports, etc, etc just like their fathers were in giving these to USA.

They just never learn. Yet hey hope that somehow things will be different with China than how they panned out with USA.

"Pakistan giving bases to evil red communist China" is something that your media has been spoon feeding you and you are showing results. There are going to be NO CHINESE BASES in Pakistan. The Gwadar naval base will only provide PLAN "rotation rights".
 
Our policy is "No overseas military bases".

So it really will be different.

That is for now. The Americans also did not just decide to set up shop within a year. It took decades for this to materialize after US had become the number one and exclusive partner of Pakistan.

China is only reaching that stage now, plus China has a lot more issues surrounding itself - no sensible nation would want to open up another front needlessly.

But make no mistake, China will in the future do something similar. The point is why are Pakistani's ever excited about giving foreign countries a military base, it always leads to the same results.

Americans set fire to a country and then go "hey,why there is a fire burning up there" ?

"Pakistan giving bases to evil red communist China" is something that your media has been spoon feeding you and you are showing results. There are going to be NO CHINESE BASES in Pakistan. The Gwadar naval base will only provide PLAN "rotation rights".

Pakistan has been solely responsible for setting up a fire in its own country. Pakistani's were setting up madrassas and allowing guns to be brought into their country, Pakistani's are the ones who have not spent on setting up schools and medical colleges and have instead given money to their army.

Pakistan did all of this to interfere in its neighbouring countries - Afghanistan and India. Today it is all on you, not on the US.

And yes, we know that PLAN has no war time berthing rights. As i said, this will come in the future. Pakistani population already seems excited about having PLAN set up shop there.
 
But make no mistake, China will in the future do something similar. The point is why are Pakistani's ever excited about giving foreign countries a military base, it always leads to the same results.

Maybe, but that is like decades into the future.

I do agree that Pakistan should stand on their own though. Get rid of the US alliance especially.
 
Sure, the Bengali Muslims and Jinnah wanted a seperate country - but the onus was on the west who made it happen to have a proxy against the Soviets.

The Soviet Union is no more and Russia is weak to attempt what SU could have done and India has stayed neutral, the intended job is compllete - they would have had further use if Pakistan had agreed to go up against China, but China and Pakistan turned out allies - so its a dead weight, and getting rid of the dead weight is a necessity - unless PA comes up with something that can be used again - but they are adamant not to get sucked in again. Hence we hear statements like "Divorcing Pakistan".

So blame the west for Pakistan and also blame Pakistan for the Proxies.
 
Americans set fire to a country and then go "hey,why there is a fire burning up there" ?

Its not fair to blame ills on outsiders.

If the Americans lit a fire as suggested - the match box was provided by Pakistanis who then proceeded to douse the fire by throwing petrol into it.
 
@third eye

I'will not respond to your,post unless/until you have read 'The myth of independance'. Without it,you can't understand my opinion.


Regards.
 
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Americans set fire to a country and then go "hey,why there is a fire burning up there" ?

Sir Americans are also in South Korea and Japan. Haven't seen any fire burning there. Will Pakistanis also take some blame or is it that every one is to blame for Pakistan's condition except Pakistanis themselves.
 

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