Pakistan & Hodu : Ghosts of the Past

[lastofthepatriots]

As per the Bible , Hodu was the name of land where Indus flows . Its ruler was Ahasuerus .

Bibilical Hodu has its origin in Persian Hindu and Sanskrit Sindhu . So Pakistan is none other than Hodu or in other words Sindh . Its past is entirely Hindu . Once a glorious land has lost itself to its false ego .

My question to Pakistanis is , What Quran says about this Holy Land ? Why you hate your Glorious past ?

( The Hebrew word for turkey is tarnegol hoduתרנגול הודו - often shortened to hoduהודו. Hodu is the Biblical word for India, and therefore tarnegol hodu means "Indian chicken". This is the name for the bird in many European languages - Russian indiuk, Polish indyk, French dinde and Yiddish indik. Even in Turkey they call the bird hindi. Of course, the bird originated in North America; so why the association with Turkey or India?

The English name "turkey" comes from an incorrect identification of the bird with an African guinea-fowl, which entered Europe through Turkey. The connection to India was due to another misunderstanding - as is well known, the first Europeans who reached the Western Hemisphere thought they were in India (hence the name Indians for the native peoples.)

As I mentioned earlier, Hodu is the Biblical name for India, appearing once, in the first verse of Esther. The name derives from the Persian word Hindu, but as often happens, the nun dropped out in Hebrew. The area called Hodu actually refers to the regions near the Indus river (actually in today's Pakistan, not India), from where it gets its name. The river and the region are known in Sanskrit as Sind, but the Persian "h" is cognate with the Sanskrit "s".

An interesting coincidence is that we eat turkey on Thanksgiving, and a common biblical Hebrew term for "Give thanks!" is hodu. We see that phrase often in Tehilim (Psalms), and a related verse in Divrei HaYamim I (16:8) starts the Pesukei D'Zimra section of the morning prayers (for Nusach Sefard and Edot HaMizrach). Because of this, people will often mark the schedule by the start of "hodu". )

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Don't be so lazy

Like I said that is like Italians calling themselves Romans and Greeks calling themselves Spartans, Corinthians or Athenians

Yup ! I agree with you but With Change the Hate should also go . In our case it hasn't .

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Legend has it lakhs were killed on those hills

thats what i meant when i said there is a reason why its called that.

We are Pagans to the commoner and those who think like them

To the World we are Pluralistic People For whom Polytheism , Monism , Henotheism , Pantheism , Monotheism , Atheism and Agnosticism go hand in hand . We have a Philosophical tradition that gives nightmare to the people


I have heard that legend but where

Still didnt answer my question.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

All Faiths are interlinked in one way or the other . The Illusion of Time has hidden these links

thats what i meant when i said there is a reason why its called that.


Still didnt answer my question.

 

[halupridol]

I think ,it shud be Bhodu ,,instead of hodu,,,sounds better

 

[Spring Onion]

As per the Bible , Hodu was the name of land where Indus flows . Its ruler was Ahasuerus .

Bibilical Hodu has its origin in Persian Hindu and Sanskrit Sindhu . So Pakistan is none other than Hodu or in other words Sindh . Its past is entirely Hindu . Once a glorious land has lost itself to its false ego .

My question to Pakistanis is , What Quran says about this Holy Land ? Why you hate your Glorious past ?

how can we hate our past when majority of us do not know about our glorious past.


We all need to understand that there are different types of cultures.

I personally always believe we have historical culture as well as religious culture and as Pakistani I believe in both.

Islam has nothing to with Arab culture or adopting Arab culture as many of you wrongly link Pakistanis to bowing Arabs and adopting Arab culture. Since Arabs also had Pagan practices so religious culture is quiet a different thing than Arab culture

 

[Winchester]

The aam admi on the street has no idea about the history of the Indus Valley Civilization nor about Taxilla.

 

[xyxmt]

As per the Bible , Hodu was the name of land where Indus flows . Its ruler was Ahasuerus .

Bibilical Hodu has its origin in Persian Hindu and Sanskrit Sindhu . So Pakistan is none other than Hodu or in other words Sindh . Its past is entirely Hindu . Once a glorious land has lost itself to its false ego .

My question to Pakistanis is , What Quran says about this Holy Land ? Why you hate your Glorious past ?

( The Hebrew word for turkey is tarnegol hoduתרנגול הודו - often shortened to hoduהודו. Hodu is the Biblical word for India, and therefore tarnegol hodu means "Indian chicken". This is the name for the bird in many European languages - Russian indiuk, Polish indyk, French dinde and Yiddish indik. Even in Turkey they call the bird hindi. Of course, the bird originated in North America; so why the association with Turkey or India?

The English name "turkey" comes from an incorrect identification of the bird with an African guinea-fowl, which entered Europe through Turkey. The connection to India was due to another misunderstanding - as is well known, the first Europeans who reached the Western Hemisphere thought they were in India (hence the name Indians for the native peoples.)

As I mentioned earlier, Hodu is the Biblical name for India, appearing once, in the first verse of Esther. The name derives from the Persian word Hindu, but as often happens, the nun dropped out in Hebrew. The area called Hodu actually refers to the regions near the Indus river (actually in today's Pakistan, not India), from where it gets its name. The river and the region are known in Sanskrit as Sind, but the Persian "h" is cognate with the Sanskrit "s".

An interesting coincidence is that we eat turkey on Thanksgiving, and a common biblical Hebrew term for "Give thanks!" is hodu. We see that phrase often in Tehilim (Psalms), and a related verse in Divrei HaYamim I (16:8) starts the Pesukei D'Zimra section of the morning prayers (for Nusach Sefard and Edot HaMizrach). Because of this, people will often mark the schedule by the start of "hodu". )

So basically since the time of Bible, the region what is called Pakistan was the land known across the seas not the dump what is called India. Bible called you Hodu (as you say) which is hindu but Hindus didnt even know they are Hindus?? where is any reference to your religion as Hindu in your religious books?

 

[omega supremme]

As per the Bible , Hodu was the name of land where Indus flows . Its ruler was Ahasuerus .

Bibilical Hodu has its origin in Persian Hindu and Sanskrit Sindhu . So Pakistan is none other than Hodu or in other words Sindh . Its past is entirely Hindu . Once a glorious land has lost itself to its false ego .

This Hodu word is mentioned in bible as you say but I don't know where is Hodu mentioned in Quran

My question to Pakistanis is , What Quran says about this Holy Land ? Why you hate your Glorious past ?

I don't think Quran has any mention of hodu. You tell where in Quran is this Hodu word mentioned. This Hodu of yours is more related with the Jews so ask jews about this. Our Glorious past in Sub continent started with the conquering of Sindh by Mohammud Bin Qasim and bringing Islam in it and we don't hate this past of ours

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

This Hodu word is mentioned in bible as you say but I don't know where is Hodu mentioned in Quran





I don't think Quran has any mention of hodu. You tell where in Quran is this Hodu word mentioned. This Hodu of yours is more related with the Jews so ask jews about this. Our Glorious past in Sub continent started with the conquering of Sindh by Mohammud Bin Qasim and bringing Islam in it

Oh ! What about AL Hind ?
SO you reject everything that was there before Him ( Mehergarh , IVC , Vedic Culture , Brahmanas , Shramanas , Taxali , Porus , Alexander , Mauryans and others )

So basically since the time of Bible, the region what is called Pakistan was the land known across the seas not the dump what is called India. Bible called you Hodu (as you say) which is hindu but Hindus didnt even know they are Hindus?? where is any reference to your religion as Hindu in your religious books?

Hindu is the corruption of real word Sindu .

Hodu was the name of Land where Indus flows .

 

[omega supremme]

Oh ! What about AL Hind ?

What about Al hind you tell me I only know of Ghazwatulhind and that's in Hadith

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

What about Al hind you tell me I only know of Ghazwatulhind and that's in Hadith

It has happened . Hind has already been conquered .
Hind is not equal to India .
Al Hind = Modern Pakistan

In past Al Hind was part of Akhand Bharat .
Now Al Hind = Pakistan
Bharat = India

Al Hind is the Glorious past of Pakistan . Remember it and Forget hate that is the manifestation of False Ego .

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The problem is in 2016 people can't get past the meaning of the word "Hindu" as they equate it with a religion called Sanātana Dharma. Hindu originally was more of a geographic meaning which in the last 500 years increasingly became to be used for the followers of Sanatana Dharma.

Link > http://veda.wikidot.com/sanatana-dharma

Most people fail to adjust for change that happens in linguist drift (meaning of names or words change) over time. In classical times Hodu, Hendosh or Arabic Al Hind meant what is now Pakistan. Ghazwa e Hind has already been achieved because Al Hind meant the Indus Valley or modern Pakistan. Try telling that to the thick skulled though.

The name Ark Royal has been used by British navy for five ships since first it was used 1587 on this ship below.

Ark Royal 1587 - the wooden wonder.

Ark Royal 1985 - the iron beast.

One look at them clearly tells you that both are Ark Royals but they most definitely are not the same ships. If you came across some text from 1500s that implored the reader to destroy Ark Royal you would hardly conclude that it means in 2016 that the iron beast from 1985 should be destroyed. Translation must involve staying contemperory to the times. Therefore if you read "Ark Royal" from text in 1500s you have to look at what it meant then - that is the wooden wonder and not the modern iron beast. If you don't you will end up with the incorrect translation.

Link > http://www.shraddhananda.com/Meaning_and_Origin_Of_The_Word_Hindu.html

This Hodu, Hendosh, Sindhu or even Hindu or Greek Indikeys all meant what is today Pakistan.

Hind has already been conquered

Respect. I wish you the best in educating the uneducated on this fine but very important point in etymology of the the various names. It's amazing how the simplest falsehood can take hold and refuse to budge from public perception.

This subject was covered in detail here > https://defence.pk/threads/hindustan-is-not-india.421350/

 

[omega supremme]

It has happened . Hind has already been conquered .
Hind is not equal to India .
Al Hind = Modern Pakistan

In past Al Hind was part of Akhand Bharat .
Now Al Hind = Pakistan
Bharat = India

Al Hind is the Glorious past of Pakistan . Remember it and Forget hate that is the manifestation of False Ego .

This I don't know whether Ghazwatulhind is finished or not because we have also ruled subcontinent for a long period by your definition of this hadith Pakistan is it's objective but I can also say after ruling subcontinent maybe Ghazwatulhind was fulfilled but this I or you both don't know maybe there still be future wars between India and Muslim nations or Islam just quietly spread in India as there is a large population already present in India itself even after carving out a good land for themselves like Pakistan and Bangladesh

 

[xyxmt]

Hindu is the corruption of real word Sindu .

Hodu was the name of Land where Indus flows .

so whats the link beween hodu and Sindhu (except letters du as common in both) as you said the word hodu refers to hindus in the region today knows as Pakistan which you now say were knows as Sindhu back then in India, now you saying hodu is the name of the land. you are a confused man!!