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  • "We appreciate concerns of Saudi Arabia for avoiding market volatility and ensuring global economic stability," FO says.
  • It says Pakistan reaffirms its long-standing, abiding and fraternal ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
  • KSA rejected US accusations of aligning itself with Russia amid Ukraine war by making oil production cuts to drive up crude prices.
ISLAMABAD: In the wake of statements made against the Kingdom in the context of the OPEC+ decision, Pakistan Tuesday expressed solidarity with the leadership of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

"We appreciate the concerns of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for avoiding market volatility and ensuring global economic stability," the Foreign Office said in a statement.

It added that Pakistan encourages a constructive approach to such issues based on engagement and mutual respect.

"We reaffirm our long-standing, abiding and fraternal ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia."

Saudi defends oil policy in face of US charges​

A day prior, Saudi Arabia rejected the United States' accusations of aligning itself with Russia amid the Ukraine war by making oil production cuts to drive up crude prices, insisting it was purely a business decision.
"We are astonished by the accusations that the kingdom is standing with Russia in its war with Ukraine," the Saudi defence minister, Prince Khaled bin Salman, tweeted late Sunday.
The Saudi-led OPEC+ cartel — which includes Russia — has angered Washington by deciding to cut production by two million barrels per day from November, adding further pressure on soaring crude prices.
"It is telling that these false accusations did not come from the Ukrainian government," Prince Khaled wrote. "Although the OPEC+ decision, which was taken unanimously, was due to purely economic reasons, some accused the kingdom of standing with Russia.

Biden vows consequences for Saudi Arabia​

US President Joe Biden pledged on October 13 that "there will be consequences" for US relations with Saudi Arabia after OPEC+ announced last week that it would cut oil production over US objections.

His announcement came a day after powerful Democratic Senator Bob Menendez, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the United States must immediately freeze all cooperation with Saudi Arabia, including arms sales.

Biden, in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, said he would not discuss what options he was considering.

"I'm not going to get into what I'd consider and what I have in mind. But there will be — there will be consequences," he said.

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said a policy review would be conducted but gave no timeline for action or information on who would lead the re-evaluation.

The United States will be watching the situation closely "over the coming weeks and months," she said.

John Kirby, the White House national security spokesperson, said Biden would work with Congress "to think through what that relationship ought to look like going forward."

"And I think he's going to be willing to start to have those conversations right away. I don't think this is anything that's going to have to wait or should wait, quite frankly, for much longer," Kirby added.
 
Saudis are fleecing you in billions in higher oil prices. All you can do is express solidarity
Beggars cannot be choosers


Wait
Ill be branded an Indian(what’s new with that…been told that to my face even before pdf or any views at all) or a turncoat or otherwise..

But IDGAF

Beggars

However, there is also a case of giving a chide back after Biden’s remarks
 
Beggars cannot be choosers


Wait
Ill be branded an Indian(what’s new with that…been told that to my face even before pdf or any views at all) or a turncoat or otherwise..

But IDGAF

Beggars

However, there is also a case of giving a chide back after Biden’s remarks
Folks should stop assuming the interests of Pak leaders equal Pak national interests. Our leaders don't care about the high cost of oil or other Saudi machinations. They care about their own personal interests and, in that vein, KSA is doing a fine job. Whenever crap hits the fan for any politician or probably even general, there's a place ready for them in KSA.
 
Officially, 60% of the oil is anyway smuggled into Pak! I am pretty sure it's not the KSA....
 
Folks should stop assuming the interests of Pak leaders equal Pak national interests. Our leaders don't care about the high cost of oil or other Saudi machinations. They care about their own personal interests and, in that vein, KSA is doing a fine job. Whenever crap hits the fan for any politician or probably even general, there's a place ready for them in KSA.
Can you even define "Pak national interests"? If Pakistan is forced to default due to high oil prices (seems inevitable in 2023 at current trend), whose interests are served?
 
Beggars cannot be choosers


Wait
Ill be branded an Indian(what’s new with that…been told that to my face even before pdf or any views at all) or a turncoat or otherwise..

But IDGAF

Beggars

However, there is also a case of giving a chide back after Biden’s remarks

Even beggars know how to balance their check books. there is a reason the guy begs. This is worse than that :enjoy:

Can you even define "Pak national interests"? If Pakistan is forced to default due to high oil prices (seems inevitable in 2023 at current trend), whose interests are served?
Folks should stop assuming the interests of Pak leaders equal Pak national interests. Our leaders don't care about the high cost of oil or other Saudi machinations. They care about their own personal interests and, in that vein, KSA is doing a fine job. Whenever crap hits the fan for any politician or probably even general, there's a place ready for them in KSA.

Don't they care about getting re-elected ? I assume they can loot more the longer they rule
 
Can you even define "Pak national interests"? If Pakistan is forced to default due to high oil prices (seems inevitable in 2023 at current trend), whose interests are served?
Well, that doesn't necessarily hurt rulers who can count their apartments in the U.K or Papa John's branches in the U.S. Our politicians neither care about Pakistan nor are they institutionally trained to run a country. If you dig into what these people say, there isn't a lot of depth or vision.

Even beggars know how to balance their check books. there is a reason the guy begs. This is worse than that :enjoy:




Don't they care about getting re-elected ? I assume they can loot more the longer they rule
The public doesn't have as much agency in this as it may seem. Pakistani society votes according to ethnicity, tribalism, family bonds, feudal relationships, and other such linkages. The ones who rise and lead are at the head of these linkages. However, even if you remove the head (e.g., the Bhuttos), the worm lives on because the bonds are still in place (e.g., the PPP's feudal linkages). Otherwise, the living head can generally count on his bonds to give him a fighting chance and, beyond that, it's a matter of just negotiating with the other parties to form a coalition (e.g., PDM).

Now, if these bonds somehow break, then we're in for something crazy. However, as @SQ8 and others will testify, Pakistanis aren't ready to break those bonds. Up to this point, a collapsing Pakistan hasn't really startled anyone to break such bonds.
 
Did they even ask for the so called solidarity?

Nooni tunes Ko b urda teer gand main lany ki pari thi.

Yesterday, it was another Nooni suggesting to launch an attack on Russia.

Paghal ho gae hain Yae log.
 
Well, that doesn't necessarily hurt rulers who can count their apartments in the U.K or Papa John's branches in the U.S. Our politicians neither care about Pakistan nor are they institutionally trained to run a country. If you dig into what these people say, there isn't a lot of depth or vision.


The public doesn't have as much agency in this as it may seem. Pakistani society votes according to ethnicity, tribalism, family bonds, feudal relationships, and other such linkages. The ones who rise and lead are at the head of these linkages. However, even if you remove the head (e.g., the Bhuttos), the worm lives on because the bonds are still in place (e.g., the PPP's feudal linkages). Otherwise, the living head can generally count on his bonds to give him a fighting chance and, beyond that, it's a matter of just negotiating with the other parties to form a coalition (e.g., PDM).

Now, if these bonds somehow break, then we're in for something crazy. However, as @SQ8 and others will testify, Pakistanis aren't ready to break those bonds. Up to this point, a collapsing Pakistan hasn't really startled anyone to break such bonds.
Looks like the description "Army with a Country" fits even more appropriately for Pakistan than Prussia. A thread about something Biden said clumsily attracted some 50 or 100 pages of comments. But when Pakistan P.M. says, unprompted, we welcome bankruptcy to enrich our friend Saudi Arabia, it is considered mostly harmless.

 
No one wants a Beggar to express Solidarity with them. Countries like Saudia Arabia like strong, independent countries as Friends and allies, and not a professional street beggar like Pakistan.
 
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  • "We appreciate concerns of Saudi Arabia for avoiding market volatility and ensuring global economic stability," FO says.
  • It says Pakistan reaffirms its long-standing, abiding and fraternal ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
  • KSA rejected US accusations of aligning itself with Russia amid Ukraine war by making oil production cuts to drive up crude prices.
ISLAMABAD: In the wake of statements made against the Kingdom in the context of the OPEC+ decision, Pakistan Tuesday expressed solidarity with the leadership of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

"We appreciate the concerns of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for avoiding market volatility and ensuring global economic stability," the Foreign Office said in a statement.

It added that Pakistan encourages a constructive approach to such issues based on engagement and mutual respect.

"We reaffirm our long-standing, abiding and fraternal ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia."

Saudi defends oil policy in face of US charges​

A day prior, Saudi Arabia rejected the United States' accusations of aligning itself with Russia amid the Ukraine war by making oil production cuts to drive up crude prices, insisting it was purely a business decision.

"We are astonished by the accusations that the kingdom is standing with Russia in its war with Ukraine," the Saudi defence minister, Prince Khaled bin Salman, tweeted late Sunday.

The Saudi-led OPEC+ cartel — which includes Russia — has angered Washington by deciding to cut production by two million barrels per day from November, adding further pressure on soaring crude prices.

"It is telling that these false accusations did not come from the Ukrainian government," Prince Khaled wrote. "Although the OPEC+ decision, which was taken unanimously, was due to purely economic reasons, some accused the kingdom of standing with Russia.

Biden vows consequences for Saudi Arabia​

US President Joe Biden pledged on October 13 that "there will be consequences" for US relations with Saudi Arabia after OPEC+ announced last week that it would cut oil production over US objections.

His announcement came a day after powerful Democratic Senator Bob Menendez, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the United States must immediately freeze all cooperation with Saudi Arabia, including arms sales.

Biden, in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, said he would not discuss what options he was considering.

"I'm not going to get into what I'd consider and what I have in mind. But there will be — there will be consequences," he said.

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said a policy review would be conducted but gave no timeline for action or information on who would lead the re-evaluation.

The United States will be watching the situation closely "over the coming weeks and months," she said.

John Kirby, the White House national security spokesperson, said Biden would work with Congress "to think through what that relationship ought to look like going forward."

"And I think he's going to be willing to start to have those conversations right away. I don't think this is anything that's going to have to wait or should wait, quite frankly, for much longer," Kirby added.
Dude..... still u won't get free oil...
 
Bhochri ke mattarchoro.. kahbi Pakistan se bhi solidarity dikha diya karo.

Puddi de bus har vele aghast hi rehnde'aa...
 

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