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By:Iqbal Haider 16 min ago | Comments (0)

And Talibanization of our society

It is an undeniable fact that not a single Pakistani, Iraqi or Afghani participated in the dastardly attack on Twin Towers and Pentagon on 9/11. But strangely, the U.S chose to attack Afghanistan, Iraq and made Pakistan scapegoat by once again assigning it the role of frontline state in its “war on terrorism”. Consequently, Pakistan has suffered incalculable destruction of an unprecedented magnitude. Unlike the Western countries, the people and Armed Forces of Pakistan are continuously facing such terrorist attacks virtually every day in Pakistan, resulting in loss of precious lives of over 70,000 innocent civilians and sacrifices of over 8,000 lives of our brave soldiers including one Lieutenant General Mushtaq, one Major General Bilal Omer and five brigadiers. Pakistan has not suffered such a huge death toll of civilian and armed forces and destruction of its assets and financial losses in its four wars put together with India. Despite these unparallel sacrifices made by our citizens and Armed Forces, Pakistan is still being defamed as a terrorist state and the West is continuing to demand from Pakistan “to do more”. Why this most harmful perception, image and propaganda against Pakistan?

We should also realize that we are not the only neighbors of Afghanistan, which is surrounded by at least six countries. Why is it that only Pakistan is burdened with continuous presence in the past three decades of about two million Afghan refugees and has immensely suffered huge losses of all kinds on account of the first Afghan war and the present Afghan war? Why is it that no other neighboring country of Afghanistan has suffered such losses? The greater irony is that despite these sacrifices of Pakistan, it is blamed, accused and disliked both by the government and the people of Afghanistan. There must be some blunders that our rulers have committed to cause disaster for Pakistan. Similarly, there are 57 Muslim countries in the world, why are they not suffering such religious extremism, terrorism, sectarianism, bigotry, murders and mayhems of the Muslims by the Muslims in the name of Islam? Not even our former bigger part, East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, has such menace of sectarianism, hatred, intolerance or religious terrorism or the spate of fatwas of “kaafir” or “wajib-ul-qatal” from any extremist mullah there?

No doubt, the Western countries are uncharitable and utterly selfish, but we must also examine our own conduct and detrimental policies and priorities adopted by our rulers that allow foreign mercenaries, Taliban or the religious fanatics and terrorists to freely roam around and attack our military, navy and air force installations and committing all sorts of terrorism, murders and mayhem with impunity. We cannot blame any other country, but our own ruling elite and the establishment for the same.

The process of degeneration in an alarming degree of our society, its social, religious, cultural, academic institutions, political and economic, ethic, values and norms was no doubt first pursued selfishly and callously by the worst dictator Gen Zia who also deliberately introduced the “klashinkov and heroin culture”, more particularly in our academic institutions. Gen Zia also made radical changes in the syllabus and textbooks of our schools and colleges and inserted highly damaging hate material against other sects, non-Muslims and India to the detriment of the interest of Pakistan. Gen Zia also created, promoted, strengthened and armed the sectarian and ethnic terrorist forces in Pakistan.

This mission of Gen Zia was taken over and served by his successor Gen Musharraf with full commitment to the same agenda. Initially, even before the occurrence of the 9/11 tragedy, the Pakistani establishment and particularly Gen Musharraf adopted a most imprudent and counterproductive notion that “Afghanistan is the strategic depth of Pakistan”. Under this pretext, his hidden agenda was to spread Talibanization and promote religious extremism and bigotry. To serve this hidden objective Gen Musharraf extended all kinds of support and cooperation to strengthen the rule of bigoted Taliban in Afghanistan and at the same time allowed the rise of religious militancy, sectarianism and terrorism in Pakistan.

It may be recalled that on the pretext of the national interest Gen Musharraf had signed about five/six agreements with the worst militant groups of Taliban and religious extremists such as Fazal-ul-Ullah during his dictatorial rule. Even the present elected government while following the same policy of Musharraf, signed yet another agreement with Taliban in May 2008. These agreements resulted in more favors and freedom to Taliban, with no benefit to Pakistan. Perhaps, it is for this reason that till date, the government of Pakistan has not disclosed the terms and conditions of the agreements signed with Taliban. In February 2009, the government committed yet another blunder of surrendering before the demands of Sufi Mohammad, the father-in-law of Fazal-ul-Ullah. Shockingly, even our National Assembly also endorsed and supported demands of Sufi Mohammad and his brand of Shariah and Nizam-e-Adal. These unwise and detrimental decisions of both the KP and federal government naturally encouraged Sufi Mohammad in denouncing the entire constitutional setup of Pakistan including democracy, parliament and judiciary.

The catastrophic impact of all these decisions and agreements with Taliban naturally resulted in the rise of bigotry, intolerance, militancy and sectarian killings of about 302 innocent citizens in the past eight months, mostly Shia community, all over Pakistan. At the same time, Ahmedis, Christians, Hindus/Sikhs are also being harassed, victimized, forced to convert their religion without any let or hindrance. The sense of insecurity is rising among these minorities so much the so that they are persuaded to leave their places of residence for protection of their life and properties. This appalling state of affairs is tarnishing the image of both Pakistan and Islam to such an alarming degree that even the United Nation has taken notice of the same and a UN delegation is visiting Pakistan on a fact finding mission.

One cannot ignore the victimization and beating suffered by op-ed editor of The News, Mr Zainul Abedin at the hands of the religious fanatics who have threatened to kill him if he did not stop watching the TV or listening Qawwalis/music in his own house. This is obviously part and parcel of the scheme to promote Talibanization in Pakistan through intimidation and terrorism. The unrestrained and rampant killing and victimization of not only Shia Muslims and other minorities but also the repeated successful attacks of Taliban on our military installations and barbaric beheadings of soldiers appear to be a part of the scheme to Talibanize Pakistan and convert it into an extremist state.

It is high time that our civil and military establishment must radically change its policies, priorities and improve its performance for the protection of our military installations, life and property of our citizens rather than promoting and protecting Taliban and their extremist supporters. I am not prepared to believe that our Armed Forces are not competent enough to combat and defeat all brands of terrorists or religious extremists including Taliban. All that is required is drawing up the right strategy and determination to completely cut off all kinds of supplies to the terrorists in Pakistan. Whichever country supplies arms or money to the terrorists including Taliban cannot be regarded as our friend, may they be in the Arabian Peninsula or in the Western block.

The writer is a Senior Advocate Supreme Court, Former Attorney General & Federal Minister for Law, Justice, Parliamentary Affairs & Human Rights. He can be reached at ihaider45@yahoo.com
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An interesting article on 9/11 published today.


9/11 mystery and common sense

Shakil Chaudhary
Saturday, September 22, 2012

There is no country in the world that doesn’t have conspiracy theorists. In most countries conspiracy theories are a minority phenomenon but in Pakistan they are a majority phenomenon. ‘We are the greatest conspiracy theorists east of the Suez,’ as Mushahid Hussain used to say.

Since 9/11 we seem to have beaten everybody else in the realm of conspiracy theories. We have become master cherry-pickers and give credence only to the stuff that has been produced by conspiracy theorists. We consider anything that does not conform to our preconceived notion to be just verbiage.

Iftikhar A Khan’s article ‘The 9/11 mystery’ (The News, Sept 8) is a case in point. On the one hand, he laments that conspiracy theories abound and then bestows legitimacy on them. Out of over 3,000 books written on 9/11, he is enamoured of the five books that have been written by conspiracy theorists. According to him, books ‘stand out because of their lucidity and rationale’ (sic). However, he has named only four books by: Thierry Meyssan, David Ray Griffin, Webster Griffin Tarpley and Barry Zwicker. It is worth mentioning that Mr Meyssan’s view that no jet hit the Pentagon has been criticised by other prominent conspiricists such as Jim Hoffman.

Iftikhar A Khan says that 9/11 has not been investigated to the public’s satisfaction. What does he mean by the public? The public that readily falls for conspiracy theories? Let me draw his attention to the fact that in its issue of March 2005 Popular Mechanics, a science and technology magazine, published an in-depth investigation of the 9/11 conspiracy theories. It was expanded and published in August 2006 as a book entitled Debunking 9/11 Myths. I am surprised that he has omitted to mention this important book. He has also omitted to mention the fact that Bin Laden and other leaders of the Al-Qaeda claimed credit for the 9/11 attacks.

According to him, these authors ‘unequivocally agree’ that demolition material was used to bring down the Twin Towers. This assertion is totally contrary to common sense. Who brought this material and by whose orders? And to what end? Mr Khan neither has time nor inclination to address such inconvenient but common sense questions. If the Twin Towers were destroyed through controlled demolition, the orders must have come from the Oval Office, because the buck stops there. Didn’t Bush know that it would be hard for him to get away with it? If Nixon could not get away with Watergate, how could he get away with mass murder?

Had the Bush administration been so capable, why couldn’t it get a few nuclear devices planted in Iraq in 2003? In this way, it would have avoided a huge embarrassment. The reason is simple: the US government cannot keep things secret for long. Doesn’t the publication of Matt Bissonnette’s book No Easy Day in the face of the Pentagon’s opposition prove that? Had 9/11 been an inside job, a similar book would have been published years ago.

Mr Khan needs to pay some attention to what Noam Chomsky, arguably the biggest critic of the US foreign policy, has said on the subject. According to Chomsky, the evidence produced by 9/11 conspiracy theorists in favour of their claims is “essentially worthless”.

Similarly, he should pay some heed to what The Guardian, no big fan of the US foreign policy, wrote on February 6, 2007: “A 9/11 conspiracy virus is sweeping the world, but it has no basis in fact.” The paper blasted Loose Change, a documentary film that purported to substantiate the 9/11 conspiracy theories, as a disease. “The film’s greatest flaw is this: the men who made it are still alive. If the US government is running an all-knowing, all-encompassing conspiracy, why did it not snuff them out long ago?”

What does Mr Khan say about Ataur Rahman, the Islamist editor of Daily Nai Baat, Lahore, who is not an unabashed admirer of the 9/11 attacks. Writing in Nawa-i-Waqt, on December 1, 2004, he extolled Bin Laden for exacting revenge on the Americans by launching the 9/11 attacks. It was his gherat (sense of honour) that prompted him to do so. He sang the praises of Bin Laden for thoroughly defeating the might and technology of the United States. In his column on July 15, 2005, he wrote: “Arab youngsters were responsible for the destruction of the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001.”

The Taliban regime was quickly blamed for devastating attacks, says Mr Khan. This is not true. The Taliban were not named as prime suspects; Al-Qaeda was. And it was not done so quickly. Isn’t it the right of the aggrieved party to name suspects?

Mr Khan says that Bin Laden was ‘ostensibly’ killed by the US Navy Seals in Abbottabad in May 2011. That means he does not believe that Bin Laden was killed in Abbottabad. He says that Bin Laden should have been captured alive because the time factor was in the Seals’ favour. Not exactly. It was really a high-risk operation and the Seals had lost one of their helicopters and had been fired upon. He also says that Bin Laden should have been produced in a US court. Let’s suppose he had been convicted by a US court, would the Pakistani have agreed with his conviction? Or would it have been like the conviction of Dr Aafia Siddiqi?

Does he agree with General Mirza Aslam Beg (ret) who has described the Abbottabad operation a drama (Nawa-i-Waqt, May 22, 2011)? The general claimed that Bin Laden had been murdered in 2009 in Afghanistan. According to him, the Abbottabad operation was meant to fool the world and to embarrass Pakistan. He maintains that the US helicopters came from Tarbela, not Jalalabad. He has also claimed that the helicopters brought Bin Laden’s lookalike and killed him in cold blood ‘in front of his family’ in Abbottabad.

However, there is a slight problem with General Beg’s view. It has been thoroughly refuted by his own institution. Speaking at the National Defence University, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said that the proof of Bin Laden’s killing is his wives and children. It is an intelligence agencies’ failure that they were unaware of Bin Laden’s presence. The US helicopters flew low. That’s why they were not detected by the Pakistani radars.



The writer is a freelance contributor.
9/11 mystery and common sense - Shakil Chaudhary
 
^^
Niaz sahab, welcome back. While you post infrequently; every post is thought-provoking.
 
Propaganda... Propaganda... Propaganda...
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3rd building, WTC-7, comes down as controlled demolition, not hit by plane...
Osama... 911 was NOT even on the list of allegations against him, on FBI's site.!!!
World's most wanted man, who was already dead for 10 years, allegedly killed AGAIN & immediately dumped into sea, or so you were told...
Many hijackers found alive,,, computerized airline log sheets were faked...
Iraqi WMD's - were NOT there & hence were NEVER found...
"Fake" nurse Nayirah - actually daughter of Kuwait's ambassador to the United States.
Israeli planes attacking US-navy ship so Egyptians could be blamed. Luckily Russians witnessed that & hence plan was aborted... & the notorious "Lavon Affair"...
Aurora Colorado - fake plastic baby & fake scars that changed shape from time to time...
Sandy Hook up-beat actor-parents... ever changing story, & NO footage...
Pentagon - NO footage, because they don't want you to see a missile hitting it... & the 4th plane that crashed in PA; nothing but a dumpster of garbage emptied there...
London exercises magically become real, EXACT same time EXACT same scenario...!!!
& RAW trained maulvis arrested from Jamia Masjid of Rawalpindi...!!! & many more from tribal regions who were trained to ferret slightly mental-retards who are sane enough to take instructions but retard enough to fall for 72 virgin story-line...

Of course there are black-sheep from within without the help of which "they" cannot proceed, but who's the perpetrator of all this...!!! The left-eyed deceiver, the Dajjal of USA...
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& funniest of ALL & oft-repeated BS that muslims circumcise their girls.
& the list is too long...
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To Sell A War - Gulf War Propaganda (1992) - YouTube
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LK9a8AT2b8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEKWO3jK3U0
 
The 9/11 Commission claims that “we found no evidence”
 
you forgot one...26/11 was done by Indian Govt & Hindu extremist.......
 
And Talibanization of our society

Stopped right there, there is no ******* talibanization of our society, period. A few paid terrorists supported by US, Afghan and indina governments do not represent Pakistan and Pakistani masses. These idiot $ loving writers and their intellectual crap should at least be banned from this forum.
 
I am not prepared to believe that our Armed Forces are not competent enough to combat and defeat all brands of terrorists or religious extremists including Taliban. All that is required is drawing up the right strategy and determination to completely cut off all kinds of supplies to the terrorists in Pakistan.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...7517-pakistan-after-9-11-a.html#ixzz2OcYAPVWc
The PA is competent enough, but the author misses the point completely. As Kayani himself had mentioned to his American counterpart that these terror groups notably the Afghan Taliban (not the TTP) are his 'strategic assets' which would help install a pliable government in Afghanistan for the furtherance of the so called 'strategic depth' doctrine.

However, all terror groups are intertwined, however amorphously, and therefore extremely difficult to target select groups. Controlling religious extremism is however the prerogative of the law enforcing agencies and not the job of the army. The police and paramilitary forces need to do more to defeat all brands of religious extremism.
 
The PA is competent enough, but the author misses the point completely. As Kayani himself had mentioned to his American counterpart that these terror groups notably the Afghan Taliban (not the TTP) are his 'strategic assets' which would help install a pliable government in Afghanistan for the furtherance of the so called 'strategic depth' doctrine.

However, all terror groups are intertwined, however amorphously, and therefore extremely difficult to target select groups. Controlling religious extremism is however the prerogative of the law enforcing agencies and not the job of the army. The police and paramilitary forces need to do more to defeat all brands of religious extremism.

It is a Great Idea that the Security Forces should "go hammer and tongs" at all brands of religious extremism. But how does one do that easily in a Country whose sole 'Raison d'Etre' is Religious Belief?
The red-lines for any punitive and corrective action to deal with this kind of phenomena are consequently less than 'hair-line thin'. The Security Forces will be constantly confronted by this barrier.
Thus meaningful results are not likely to be seen.

The PA is competent enough, but the author misses the point completely. As Kayani himself had mentioned to his American counterpart that these terror groups notably the Afghan Taliban (not the TTP) are his 'strategic assets' which would help install a pliable government in Afghanistan for the furtherance of the so called 'strategic depth' doctrine.

However, all terror groups are intertwined, however amorphously, and therefore extremely difficult to target select groups. Controlling religious extremism is however the prerogative of the law enforcing agencies and not the job of the army. The police and paramilitary forces need to do more to defeat all brands of religious extremism.

It is a Great Idea that the Security Forces should "go hammer and tongs" at all brands of religious extremism. But how does one do that easily in a Country whose sole 'Raison d'Etre' is Religious Belief?
The red-lines for any punitive and corrective action to deal with this kind of phenomena are consequently less than 'hair-line thin'. The Security Forces will be constantly confronted by this barrier.
Thus meaningful results are not likely to be seen.
 
Bigger curse to our region and the Middle East than it ever was to New York or DC or Penbsylvania that's for damn sure

The PA is competent enough, but the author misses the point completely. As Kayani himself had mentioned to his American counterpart that these terror groups notably the Afghan Taliban (not the TTP) are his 'strategic assets' which would help install a pliable government in Afghanistan for the furtherance of the so called 'strategic depth' doctrine.

However, all terror groups are intertwined, however amorphously, and therefore extremely difficult to target select groups. Controlling religious extremism is however the prerogative of the law enforcing agencies and not the job of the army. The police and paramilitary forces need to do more to defeat all brands of religious extremism.

Yes it does take time to weed out the good from the bad or incorrigible.

It's taken us well over a decade! But slowly an surely the end game is near.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link and the best thing to counter terrorism and extremism is to develop and hone strong state institutions. Nothing the west has done since the free world crushed the soviets has promoted strong institutions. Once again we are forced to hedge our bets.
 
It is very wide spread in Indonesia, Africa and Egypt.

Female genital mutilation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Point IS, it has nothing to do with islam... They should stop associating it exclusively with muslims...

Just like some hindus became muslims but couldn't dissociate themselves from idol worship,,, & now they intercede with graves of saints... Does NOT mean Islam asked them to do so...

It was a cultural practice that pre-dates islam & when those cultures converted to islam some continued practicing it...

Quote from link you posted:
(Christians practice it too in those cultures)


"The practice spans socioeconomic, ethnic, and cultural groups including Christians, Muslims, and followers of indigenous African religions."

" In Kenya, Christian missionaries in the 1920s and 1930s forbade their adherents from practising it"

"Muslim leaders in countries like Egypt and Kenya are saying female genital mutilation is a cultural tradition that is unrelated to the teachings of Islam, and are campaigning for its abandonment"

"Aldeeb, Sami. Male & female circumcision: Among Jews, Christians and Muslims. Shangri-La Publications, 2001"


"The term "pharaonic circumcision" (Type III) stems from its practice in Ancient Egypt under the Pharaohs, and "fibula" (in "infibulation") refers to the Roman practice of piercing the outer labia with a fibula, or brooch.[21] Leonard Kouba and Judith Muasher write that genitally mutilated females have been found among Egyptian mummies, and that Herodotus (c. 484 BCE – c. 425 BCE) referred to the practice when he visited Egypt.[20] There is reference on a Greek papyrus from 163 BCE to the procedure being conducted on girls in Memphis, the ancient Egyptian capital, and Strabo (c. 64 BCE – c. 23 CE), the Greek geographer, reported it when he visited Egypt in 25 BCE.[20]

Asim Zaki Mustafa argues that the common attribution of the procedure to Islam is unfair because it is a much older phenomenon. ... and several have issued a fatwa against Type III FGM."
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