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I once thought PAF would develope J10B to a stealth version.
But PUPU denied this views in Chinese Forum.

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As for our economic situation is not good friend, what kind model they expect? Personal estimation model is in a relatively cheap, single engine, lightweight, with invisible characteristics, can directly overhaul in Kamra factory. But it's early to guess, anyhow after a while.

至于经济状况不佳的巴基斯坦友人,他们期盼的型号嘛,个人估计将是一款相对便宜的、单发的、轻型的、具有隐形特征的,可以直接在卡姆拉的厂子进行大修的战斗机。不过现在猜这个那个的还太早,怎么也得过段日子再说呢。



Many of us always not consciously makes a mistake, that is shout there every day, do not follow other people's butt walk, but always not consciously drops into the somebody else's set. Who regulate the next generation of medium-sized fighter is certain to the tonnage of F35 ? Apart from to satisfy The Three Forces standards , just looking F - 35 facing these extreme knotty problems, has fully explain what! Must our Mid-5th G fighter have supercruise ability? According to that, F35 is not a 4(5)'th generations either.

Such tonnage model as J10 or FC-1 ,We develope a stealth-prototype combat fighter, just don't have supercruise ability, I say it's four(five) generations, that is four(five) generations! At least it can beat EF2000 and Rafale.

我们很多人总是不自觉滴犯一个错误,那就是天天在那里喊,不要跟着别人的屁股走,但却总是不自觉滴钻进人家的套套里。谁规定下一代的中型机,就一定是要F-35那个吨位了?且不说F-35是为了满足美国三军通用标准这一条,就现在F-35所面临的这些极端棘手的问题,已经充分说明了什么!我的中四,就一定要具备超音速巡航能力吗?照怎么说,F-35也不算是四代(五代)。

就是歼-10或FC-1这样吨位的型号,我搞出一款隐形的战斗机来,就是不具备超音速巡航能力,我说是四代,那就是四代!起码在两风面前,也可以说是超他了!


As for 10B...whether little bigger
10B的话嘛……是不是大了点啊
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And considering leak this news about XiaoLong/JF17 localization engine first flew success:

2010 18th April afternoon, at an airport take-off line,a plan assembly some new type engine developed by liYang corporation,14:57 with a deafening roar, the plane with vigorous heroic fly to the sky, 18 minutes after the flight, landing, engine working normally, working well. Thus, a new engine equipped with plane first flew success, it marks a new engine and a plane power localization work on significant breakthrough!
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2010年4月18日下午,在某机场起飞线上,装配黎阳公司自行研制生产的某新型发动机的飞机整装待发,1 4时57分飞机随着震耳欲聋的轰鸣声,以矫健的英姿飞向蓝天,18分钟的飞行后,平稳降落,发动机工作正常 ,运转良好。至此,某新型发动机配装飞机首飞成功,它标志着某新型发动机和某飞机动力国产化研制工作取得重 大突破!
 
Very correct indeed, It will be interesting to see how much will be PAF willing to pay for J-10B upgradation as 5thG gadgets will certainly increase the price tag
 
yes its may be between 75-100 million dollars per plane and a 100 planes may cost 8-10 billion dollars but may be the Pakistan economy may develop and may be PAF may have the money to buy them or take a soft lone from china
 
yes its may be between 75-100 million dollars per plane and a 100 planes may cost 8-10 billion dollars but may be the Pakistan economy may develop and may be PAF may have the money to buy them or take a soft lone from china

what would cost between 75-100 Million? J-10B or 5th Gen? be a bit more elaborative
 
Very correct indeed, It will be interesting to see how much will be PAF willing to pay for J-10B upgradation as 5thG gadgets will certainly increase the price tag

It's good for the policy continuity.
 
5-GEN Plane. the cost of FC-20 is around 40 million per plane

Besides purchase,the factors of maintenance should be more important.
Pakistan is working for manufacture JF17 locally.
So the cost of purchase and maintenance should be lower.
 
Besides purchase,the factors of maintenance should be more important.
Pakistan is working for manufacture JF17 locally.
So the cost of purchase and maintenance should be lower.
Maintaining JF-17 and maintaining 5th generation VLO planes are whole lot different. You cannot expect the operating cost to be low.

Money is currently Pakistan's biggest challenge, not India.
 
At least Pakistan needs to invest US$10 Billion to develop a Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft.

Chinese J-20 & Russian T-50 Unit cost expected between US$ 80 - 100 million.

FC-20 is a modified version of J-10, specially made for Pakistan.

FC-20 Unit cost US$ 40 million.
 
yes its may be between 75-100 million dollars per plane and a 100 planes may cost 8-10 billion dollars but may be the Pakistan economy may develop and may be PAF may have the money to buy them or take a soft lone from china

well if you're talking about 5thG platforms then I dont think that there is a need for Pakistan to go for a mystic figure like 100. 40 odd (a couple of sqadrons) will be sufficient enough. IAF with a lot of diverse induction, will be heading for a maintainence headche. Just conisder MKI, LCA, MMRCA, FGFA, Fulcrums and upgraded mirages. Maintaining these will make IAF significantly bleed not only financially but also interms of maintainence effort. Thats why I still back PAF's move to harmonize the air fleet with JFT/F-16/FC-20 (all single engine) and a possible 5th Gen if any. Even USAF will switch to F-22 and F-35 combo while phasing out all the rest.
 
At least Pakistan needs to invest US$10 Billion to develop a Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft.

Chinese J-20 & Russian T-50 Unit cost expected between US$ 80 - 100 million.

FC-20 is a modified version of J-10, specially made for Pakistan.

FC-20 Unit cost US$ 40 million.

Why would we need to develop a 5th Gen when we already have an off the shelf option?, stop brining developmentalist thought in every thread
 
i heard the j10 cost was 27-30 mil
 
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