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BEIJING (AP) — Gunmen wearing North Korean military uniforms released a Chinese fishing boat after holding its crew for two weeks, beating up the captain and stealing the vessel's fuel, the boat's owner said. He added that the hijackers did not get the 600,000 yuan ($100,000) ransom they had demanded.

The seizure May 5 in what boat owner Yu Xuejun said were Chinese waters was the latest irritant in relations between North Korea and a Chinese government increasingly frustrated with its neighboring ally over tests of its nuclear and rocket technologies in defiance of U.N. bans. One of China's North Korea watchers said rogue border guards were probably responsible, rather than the Pyongyang government itself.

Yu said in an interview that the men released Tuesday were allowed to move around the boat while they were held captive, but were locked in a room at night. He said the captain suffered an arm injury when he was beaten, but he has since recovered, and that no other crew member was harmed. They now planned to stay out at sea for another 10 days.

"The North Koreans only left the crew with one sack of rice and one sack of flour. But this shouldn't be a problem as there are a lot of boats in that region now, all from Dalian," he said, referring to the northeast China port where his boat is based. "With their help, the crews will do OK for the next 8 or 10 days."

Yu publicized the boat's capture over the weekend on his Tencent Weibo microblog as a ransom deadline neared. China then publicly demanded that North Korea release the men, though Chinese officials have not said whether they believe the armed captors were operating on their own or under North Korean government authority.

No ransom was paid, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said at a news briefing Tuesday.

"We demand North Korea investigate this case fully and furnish China with details, and take measures to stop such cases repeating themselves," Hong said.

Yu also said he hadn't paid any ransom. "We were working in our country's waters — why should I pay them?" he said. He had earlier written online that he couldn't afford it.

He said the captors "looked like soldiers, and the captain said they had guns and used force to take over the boat."

Yu posted coordinates on his microblog indicating the seizure took place about 100 kilometers (60 miles) from the westernmost point of North Korea and about 190 kilometers (120 miles) from Dalian.

That area is outside both countries' territorial waters — defined as 12 nautical miles from their shores — but within their overlapping Exclusive Economic Zones, which give them rights to resources including fishing. Jurisdictions in overlapping zones are not always clear.

Yu said the North Koreans took fuel and food, but navigation and communication equipment that was initially taken was returned, Yu said.

Yu's pleas for help and his frets that his crew might be mistreated were forwarded thousands of times on the Internet, and a high-ranking Chinese military officer, Maj. Gen. Luo Yuan, wrote on Sina Weibo of his fury over the detention.

"North Korea has gone too far! Even if you are short of money, you can't grab people across the border and blackmail," wrote Luo, who has more than 300,000 followers.

A similar abduction a year ago of Chinese fishermen by armed North Koreans caused an uproar in China. After their release, those fishermen said they had been starved and beaten, and some had been stripped of everything but their underwear.

Hong, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, had declined to answer a question Monday about who exactly China believed was behind the boat seizure, but he made clear that Beijing was looking for the North Korean government to secure the release of the boat and crew.

An expert on North Korea at the Liaoning Academy of Social Sciences in northeast China said he doubted the North Korean government would have had any knowledge of the incident when it happened.

"This incident is purely about a lawless act by the North Korean border police to blackmail our fishermen," said Lu Chao, adding that such things frequently happen to Chinese fishermen working near border waters.

"Sometimes, if the amount they are asking for isn't too high, the boat owner would just pay it," he said. This time, it might be related to spring food shortages, "so they are asking for a huge ransom."

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I wonder when China is going to cut ties with NK.
 
where are P.I.N.K guys?? i would expect an explanation from their president @Aeronaut and other PINK fellas..lols
on topic: poor captain!!
 
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Chinese sanctions are probably on their way

I think we can expect more Chinese sanctions against North Korea.

Some large Chinese banks closed some (or all) North Korean accounts. Let me look for the citation.

North Korea relies on China for 90% of its fuel and 45% of its food. I'm sure China can cut 10% here or there for a year to put the North Koreans in their place.

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/as...envoy-china/ZQ8QOHKoaYwz1KA7gwYG1I/story.html

"North Korean leader sends 'special envoy' to China
By MARGIE MASON
Associated Press / May 21, 2013
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In one sign of Beijing’s move displeasure with Pyongyang, China’s state-run Bank of China said this month it had notified the Foreign Trade Bank of North Korea that its accounts were closed and all financial transactions suspended.

Meanwhile, Chinese fishermen said gunmen in North Korean military uniforms held a crew captive at gunpoint for two weeks before finally releasing the boat this week. The ship’s owner said the captain was beaten and the vessel’s fuel stolen."
 
Then their doom will be closer than expect.

Doom? China's or North Korea's?

How can Koreans, northern or southern, doom? An unification will result in a more powerful united Korea challenging its immediate north western neighbor under the leadership of USA?

North Koreans are smarter than Chinese. They know China needs them more than they need China. This is why being such a small country they play games with superpowers! Just imagine, what would have they done, had they been as big as China.
 
Doom? China's or North Korea's?

How can Koreans, northern or southern, doom? An unification will result in a more powerful united Korea challenging its immediate north western neighbor under the leadership of USA?

North Koreans are smarter than Chinese. They know China needs them more than they need China. This is why being such a small country they play games with superpowers! Just imagine, what would have they done, had they been as big as China.

Actually, some American newspapers reported that China has a contingency plan to take over North Korea if it implodes.

So "no," China does not need North Korea. If necessary, China will annex North Korea.

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Citation for Beijing's regime change plan for North Korea by Britain's The Independent newspaper.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...with-release-of-chinese-hostages-8626076.html
 
Doom? China's or North Korea's?

How can Koreans, northern or southern, doom? An unification will result in a more powerful united Korea challenging its immediate north western neighbor under the leadership of USA?

North Koreans are smarter than Chinese. They know China needs them more than they need China. This is why being such a small country they play games with superpowers! Just imagine, what would have they done, had they been as big as China.

NK's doom. NK is probably more of a liability to China.
Reunification does make korea stronger, in the long run. If NK and SK were to reunify, their economies will be crashed and they become poor again, SK korean's don't want that.
 
Actually, some American newspapers reported that China has a contingency plan to take over North Korea if it implodes.

So "no," China does not need North Korea. If necessary, China will annex North Korea.

Annexation is a different question. North Koreans can't doom if they are not annexed by China.

NK's doom. NK is probably more of a liability to China.
Reunification does make korea stronger, in the long run. If NK and SK were to reunify, their economies will be crashed and they become poor again, SK korean's don't want that.

Speculations, right?
 
Annexation is a different question. North Koreans can't doom if they not annexed by China.

The fact remains China will determine North Korea's future. China has the power to enforce its will. It's just a question of what China chooses to do. There are different contingency plans being discussed. If North Korea goes too far, China will implement one of its contingency plans.
 
No matter what NK govt. is doing, i still feel sad for poor and starving NK general people. They do not have any idea what is going on :cry:
 
The fact remains China will determine North Korea's future. China has the power to enforce its will. It's just a question of what China chooses to do. There are different contingency plans being discussed. If North Korea goes too far, China will implement one of its contingency plans.

Lets talk practical, I hope the contingency plan does consider Moscow's concerns.

No matter what NK govt. is doing, i still feel sad for poor and starving NK general people. They do not have any idea what is going on :cry:

But Sir, condition of Bangladeshis is worse than North Koreans. You may need to feel sad for them too.
 
Annexation is a different question. North Koreans can't doom if they are not annexed by China.



Speculations, right?

Think about it, SK recently became a middle/high income country, if they reunite with S. Korea, the SK government will have to pump hundreds of billions of dollars to take car of the 25 million starving, brain washed refugees. Not only that, S.Koreans will have to work with the N.Koreans who are brainwashed into hating them. Do S.Koreans really want that? My friend who's visited SKorea knows that they want to reunify, but not at the moment.
 
But Sir, condition of Bangladeshis is worse than North Koreans. You may need to feel sad for them too.

like what exactly ? how it is worse in BD than NK ?

Not sure, either you do have any idea about BD or you just wanted to troll, if just for troll it is just about to fall on you. waiting for your reply
 
One interesting titbits - Freed boat to continue fishing - China.org.cn

The private Chinese fishing boat freed by Pyongyang Tuesday morning after 12 days of detention will continue its operations in China's waters off the Yellow Sea, its owner said.

The boat owner Yu Xuejun, who was not on board, said that all the fishermen are safe and returning on their way home.

No ransom had been paid, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said at a news briefing yesterday. Yu said earlier the kidnappers had demanded a ransom of 600,000 yuan (US$97,700).

The boat's captain called Yu on Tuesday afternoon, telling him that armed personnel from the North Korea had restricted the sailors' freedom and stolen tons of diesel fuel.

Yu said the captain had been beaten up by men in North Korean military uniforms during their time in captivity.

Yu said the captors "looked like soldiers, and the captain said they had guns and used force to take over the boat."

The captain had suffered an arm injury but had since recovered, Yu said. No other crew member had been harmed.

The 16 crew had been allowed to move around the boat by day but were locked in a room at night, Yu said.

Yu said the North Koreans took about 5 tons of light diesel oil and 6 barrels of gasoline and food, but navigation and communication equipment that was initially taken was returned.

"Instead of heading back to Dalian (in Liaoning province), the boat will continue fishing until the fishing moratorium in June," Yu said, adding that other Chinese ships will help with supplies.

China's Foreign Ministry has urged Pyongyang to make thorough investigations into the seizure and provide explanations to China.

Hong said that various parties made concerted efforts to facilitate the release as the Chinese government and public were greatly concerned over the incident. China demands North Korea take effective measures to avoid the recurrence of such an incident, Hong said.

This is not the first seizure of Chinese fishing boats by North Korea. In May 2012, three Chinese boats with 29 fishermen on board were hijacked and detained for two weeks by Pyongyang and accused of "fishing beyond borders".

The Liaoning Generic Fishing No 25222, with 16 sailors on board, was seized by an armed North Korean vessel on May 5 in Chinese waters in the Yellow Sea. Yu first publicized the boat's seizure on his micro blog late on Saturday, asking for help from Internet users and the Foreign Ministry.
 

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