Noam Chomsky on IK

[FuturePAF]

Going by policies, PTI could very well be the most socialist party in Pakistan. What more does the left want before deciding it's PTI and not zardari's feudal party

PTI needs policies that protect minorities better and needs a plan to economically save state owned enterprises like the railways. These state owned enterprises if run efficiently can keep costs lower, and keep many people employed.

Even if the country is hemorrhaging money, many voters connected to these industries just see people being laid off if these companies are fully privatized.

PTI needs a plan to enforce protection of minorities (not just religious monitories) and generally make the country a more tolerant place, a less “siloed” country where people tend to move less in the circles of only their own ethnicity, religious denomination, etc. PTI as a proven pan-national party has the potential to change the culture of it leverage its influence towards this goal, and in making this part of their platform, ending the Zia-ification of society, can attract left leaning people.

Secondly is finding a way to get funding into state owned enterprises so they can be modernized and run efficiently, and keep them state owned and not privatized. PTI needs a plan to borrow to upgrade these companies. Many private investors tend to have an extractive mindset, because of how poor a bargaining position the country is in. PTI needs to move some of the subsidies that go to unproductive elite owned companies into a plan that leverages the money to attract more loans at fair rates to modernize these businesses.

Most of this work will also have to include ToT so it can be done by Pakistani companies and not by foreign companies if we can help it. For example, the upgrading of Mainline 1 should be done by domestic companies with domestic borrowing as much as possible. Finishing the Sukkur-Hyderabad Motorway should be done domestically if possible.

Considering the counties finances are in a poor state, these projects will have to be promised towards the end of a 5 year term, but need to be planned for by at least year 3.

This kind of platform with a timeline need to be promised to attract voters that want to realistically serve the poor.

 

[VCheng]

"I would vote for xyz". I think you may need to brush up on the language.

LOL. He would vote for xyz, is easy to say because he is offering something that he does not have.

PTI needs a plan to enforce protection of minorities (not just religious monitories) and generally make the country a more tolerant place, a less “siloed” country where people tend to move less in the circles of only their own ethnicity, religious denomination, etc. PTI as a proven pan-national party has the potential to change the culture of it leverage its influence towards this goal, and in making this part of their platform, ending the Zia-indication of society, can attract left leaning people.

Plans are a dime a dozen, and worthless without proper execution. Where have we seen that before? Oh yes, IK's first term.

 

[FuturePAF]

LOL. He would vote for xyz, is easy to say because he is offering something that he does not have.



Plans are a dime a dozen, and worthless without proper execution. Where have we seen that before? Oh yes, IK's first term.

First is identifying what the voters want, next is identifying the individuals that can get it done. This potential platform isn’t just limited for adoption by PTI but open to all political parties.

Going into an election, PTI will have to attract a team (specifically on these two issues) that the voters believe will get the job done. That’s the case in all elections. The voters never knows if promises made are going to be kept, so they look at the team being given the job to execute, if they know will comprise that team before the election.

Bilawal believes in trickle down economics, so the PPP is not the stalwart of leftist poltics it once was.

PTI may not have a fully worked plan, but it can start by exposing PPP’s false leftist image, and run of what it actually got accomplished in its time in office and compare it to PPP last time in government

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629558614259015681

 

[Riz]

Noam Chomsky says he would vote for IK. That removing him was not justified.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629569292327874565

Also, let me state here that even though the top public leftist intellectual in the world has said that he would vote for IK, this will not affect leftists like Hoodboy in our country. This is because they are not real leftists to start with.

He Unintentionally stepped on the tails of some elite class PDF donkeys

 

[villageidiot]

LOL. He would vote for xyz, is easy to say because he is offering something that he does not have.

 

[ziaulislam]

Thats b/c Hoodboy is a pseudointellectual neoliberal *** kisser, with a colonial inferiority complex. Whereas Chomsky is a anti colonial that has had a sense of solidarity with the Global South that Hoodboy could only dream of.

Hoodbouy is basically sad why he lost India.
I would suggest he should apply for Indian nationality instead of crying who knows like tariq Fateh he may get one

 

[VCheng]

Going into an election, PTI will have to attract a team (specifically on these two issues) that the voters believe will get the job done. That’s the case in all elections. The voters never knows if promises made are going to be kept, so they look at the team being given the job to execute, if they know will comprise that team before the election.

Let me correct this part: "The voters never know if promises made are going to be kept, so they look at the team being given the job to execute, as well as their previous record." IK's first term was nothing like what he had promised, even on his side of the page, to be fair.

But then again, this nation keeps electing the same known corrupts and fools again and again, so who knows, they might give IK another chance too. I hope the second time goes better than the first. Let us go step by step: elections, then results, then government, and then policies. Outcomes are best judged at the end of a full term, and not before.

 

[313ghazi]

We really need to stop using this word, especially if you're a practicing Muslim than that makes it even worse

What is the meaning of the word. I've heard it used commonly - don't know what it means.

 

[FuturePAF]

. I hope the second time goes better than the first. Let us go step by step: elections, then results, then government, and then policies. Outcomes are best judged at the end of a full term, and not before.

I agree, that if the PTI gets elected and screws it up, they will be a spent force. The other parties don’t claim to not be for the status quo, so PTI will have to deliver. By cutting their term short and the PDM running the country into the ground; the powers that be gave the PTI a second chance.

On the other hand, If PTI succeeds they will will easily win re-election in 2028, and probably lead to the other parties ditching their dynasties as their candidates. So if PTI wants to end the dynasties, it has to do really well when re-elected.

The only issue is the policies that have to be done will have to be done quickly and without hesitation so the country goes into recovery ASAP and grows by the middle to end of the PTI governments terms, being able to afford to spending enough on social services even during austerity, to the point people are satisfied, common and business community.

 

[VCheng]

I agree, that if the PTI gets elected and screws it up, they will be a spent force. The parties don’t claim to not be for the status quo, so PTI will have to deliver. By cutting their term short and running the country into the ground, the powers that be gave the PTI a second chance.

On the other hand, If PTI succeeds they will will easily win re-election in 2028, and probably lead to the other parties ditching their dynasties as their candidates.

The only issue is the policies that have to be done will have to be done quickly and without hesitation so the country goes recovers and grows by the end of the PTI governments terms, being able to afford to spending enough on social services even during austerity, to the point people are satisfied.

I would agree with your post here. I wish PTI every success, since Pakistan cannot afford losers in power any more, that is for sure. But for now, it all is in the future. Right now, sorting out the current financial mess and ensuring that the next steps, including elections, proceed as best as possible.