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Milky Way Doubles Its Mass
This week Robert Naeye, S&T's editor in chief, is dashing around the American Astronomical Society convention in Long Beach, California. Here the nation's professional astronomers are sharing their research results, projects, plans, and hopes. Buckets of astronomy news always come out at these meetings. Bob will be blogging about these announcements during the next few days. Here's his first report. Stay tuned!


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On this map of the four-armed Milky Way, the red dot marks the location of the Sun. The green and dark blue dots show the locations of radio masers measured in the newly-announced study.
Robert Hurt / Mark Reid / NRAO / AUI / NSFI heard a lot of interesting results on Monday at the American Astronomical Society’s annual winter meeting. But three really caught my attention. The first concerns the Milky Way, and it looks like some textbooks are going to have to be revised.

An international team led by Mark Reid (Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics) presented the most direct measurements yet of the rotation rate of our Milky Way Galaxy. Using a network of 10 radio telescopes stretching from Hawaii to New England known as the Very Long Baseline Array (VLBA), the group was able to measure the extremely precise parallaxes (distances) of pointlike radio sources in 18 of the Milky Way's major star-forming regions. The study revealed a total of four spiral arms, all of which contain young stars, and two of which consist of both young and old stars.

We reported on that a while ago. But there's more. The team has been able to map not just the distances of the radio sources, but their complete motions in three dimensions — by combining their sideways movement on the sky (proper motion) and movement toward or away from us (radial velocity). The result provides a map of the galaxy and its rotation directly from geometry, free from most astronomical assumptions.

The team finds that the galaxy's rotation rate is 270 kilometers per second (600,000 miles per hour). This is 15 percent faster than previously thought. And that in turn means the Milky Way is more massive than previously believed. In fact, it puts our galaxy on equal footing with our nearest large neighbor, the Andromeda Galaxy (M31).

Because Andromeda has more stars than the Milky Way, astronomers have generally assumed that it was about 50 percent more massive. But this new result agrees with a study published two years ago by Mark Wilkinson (Cambridge University, England) and his colleagues. By studying the motions of satellite dwarf galaxies and globular clusters, they found that the Milky Way is at least as massive, and maybe more so, than Andromeda.

“We should no longer think of the Milky Way as the little sister of the Local Group of galaxies,” says Reid. “The two galaxies are basically fraternal twins — equal in mass.”

Does this mean the Milky Way is richer in dark matter?

Reid also noted that the Sun takes about 225 million years to orbit the center of the galaxy, meaning that the last time the Sun was in its current position, dinosaurs were just starting to roam the Earth.

For more information, here's a press release from the National Radio Astronomy Observatory. And here's a paper about the distance measurements by members of the group.


Posted by Robert Naeye, January 6, 2009
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Poor Science could not even estimate the width of Milky Way or First Sky :lol:
 
Poor Science could not even estimate the width of Milky Way or First Sky :lol:

As opposed to what? Religion? Let's see if any of the so-called good-for-all-seasons holy books calculated this to the last decimal.

This is the beauty of scientific research. People have to keep up with changes in findings, especially when the universe is in constant flux. It is better than the obstinacy shown by people who use religion to guide their scientific ideas.
 
Let's just not mix religions with science. Both are unique.
 
Let's just not mix religions with science. Both are unique.

Quran told us 1400 years ago the process of birth of human ,so we can say religion is real source of science and both are interlinked.
 
Reid also noted that the Sun takes about 225 million years to orbit the center of the galaxy, meaning that the last time the Sun was in its current position, dinosaurs were just starting to roam the Earth.

Would like to know more about the implications of Sun's revolution around the Milky Way, because of course with Sun, we will also be moving.
 
Science is a different field with proof for any concept. But religion is based only on beliefs. So both should never be interwoven.

In fact religion should update its concepts by respecting science wherever needed.
 
Quran told us 1400 years ago the process of birth of human ,so we can say religion is real source of science and both are interlinked.

Older religions have told of many scientific phenomena as well. That still does not mean science was derived from religion. Most religions have an attitude of being non-negotiable, and that is not acceptable in scientific research.

I do not like mixing religion and science. I responded to your comment which was ridiculing "science" as a whole. If someone comes up with the same ridicule for religion, they can be sent to the gallows.
 
Science is a different field with proof for any concept. But religion is based only on beliefs. So both should never be interwoven.

In fact religion should update its concepts by respecting science wherever needed.

Allah SWT who created the universe know better than science which is based on observations and experiments which are changing with advancement in technology.

Religion(Islam) based on Quran is complete religion , no need to change it.

Read below link please

Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an
 
As we get more powerful telescopes we would discover more about our own Milky Way galaxy and about the Universe. The religious people should stick to religion and leave science to scientists.

Not Agreed

Muslims should try to understand Quran can do better research
 
Quran told us 1400 years ago the process of birth of human ,so we can say religion is real source of science and both are interlinked.

i'm sick and tired of this reasoning . All religious books are made up of fairy tales . So don't ever mix science with religions
 
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Allah SWT who created the universe know better than science which is based on observations and experiments which are changing with advancement in technology.

Religion(Islam) based on Quran is complete religion , no need to change it.

Read below link please

Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

If the Quran is so great and contains full of science , Why are the most islamic countries so technologically backward . Oil is a useful material and sits right under the islamic soil and they have a Quran containing full of science and then they had to wait for almost 1400 years for the so called infidels to help them extracting oil .
 
Allah SWT who created the universe know better than science which is based on observations and experiments which are changing with advancement in technology.

Religion(Islam) based on Quran is complete religion , no need to change it.

Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

that statement would fit beautifully in the dedicated and long thread we had here for a long time entitled: "Why does the Muslim world lag behind in science?"

Up there in the quote is your answer :coffee:

Regarding your link, just watch this(to the end).


Or read: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/DGolden/touting_science.htm
 
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Ahh the Quran discovered everything... The AC that I sleep in during the scorching summers and Algorithms that we use in Computers...

Seriously grow up
 

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