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Li Ziqi’s new video reignites Chinese, S.Korean netizens’ cultural spat over kimchi - Outcome of close cultural ties

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A cultural spat between Chinese and South Korean netizens roared again after Chinese food vlogger Li Ziqi released a video on YouTube of herself making Kimchi.

Li, who has 14 million followers on YouTube, posted a 20-minute YouTube video on December 9, in which she showed how she made Kimchi.

The video reignited a prolonged cultural clash between Chinese and South Korean netizens over the origin of kimchi since the end of last year.

Some South Korean netizens commented on the video by saying that kimchi is a Korean dish and blaming Chinese, like Li, for "stealing" the culture and traditions from South Korea, igniting wide criticism and mockery from Chinese netizens.

The argument also expanded to a video released a month ago by Li that shows herself making dried persimmons.

"Dried persimmon is also Korean food," a netizen commented.

"I love Korean food gotgam [dried persimmon]," another said.

Such comments sparked wide criticism among some Chinese netizens.

"I have been eating persimmon in China for more than 20 years. When did it become Korean exclusive food? When did it become an exclusive culture of South Korea?" a netizen said.

Such clashes reflect deep and close cultural ties between the two countries, which have been carried on in mutual exchanges for thousands of years, experts said.

"Bilateral exchanges in many areas, like food, agricultural technology and medicine, between China and South Korea have been so close in history, that it is very normal that both sides have something in common," Zhang Yiwu, a professor from Peking University, told the Global Times.

In history, China developed relatively early and had some influence and output on other societies in East Asia in multiple aspects, while other places in the area also made their own unique creations, which together have enriched the development of East Asia, Zhang noted.

Zhang said that such imbroglios among Chinese and South Korean people are "not necessary," and called for people to view each other's cultures with an open mind.

In early December, a China-led application to the International Organization for Standardization of paocai, the Chinese version of pickled cabbage, started the feud. Protectors of kimchi culture on South Korean social media accused China of attempting to "steal the culture." Chinese netizens responded with mockery and criticism.

Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying emphasized at a press conference on December 1 that cooperation and shared benefits between China and South Korea surely overweigh disagreements on kimchi's origin.

The Global Times found that such an accusation was vague and untenable. The NSFC is responsible for directing and coordinating the national natural science fund to support basic research, and for identifying and fostering scientific talent. It is also responsible for promoting international cooperation. The foundation rarely publishes specific science studies on its website.
 
Doesn't the name tell everyone that Kimchi is BOTH Korean, Kim AND Chinese, Chi? It should bring Koreans and the Chinese together reminding you all of your shared history and genetic links. But nope, that just isn't how people are programmed.
 
it is a big deal for the dead. Only way for people to understand is to take it all away.

I think lots of other cultures have similar food. Especially in the past when people mostly had to eat vegetables in their own season, fermenation was/is a way to preserve and eat all year round.
 
I think lots of other cultures have similar food. Especially in the past when people mostly had to eat vegetables in their own season, fermenation was/is a way to preserve and eat all year round.

People have fridges now and can transport food from around the world so preservation is no longer needed.
Let the undead whites purify the world.
 
Northern China and Korea share many similar dishes. This is like if Germany and Poland argued about sausages and sauerkraut.
 
Northern China and Korea share many similar dishes. This is like if Germany and Poland argued about sausages and sauerkraut.
Friggin Koreans are related to us. Their whole friggin culture was copied from Han culture.
 
Friggin Koreans are related to us. Their whole friggin culture was copied from Han culture.
Modern day Koreans don't want to admit it because of uber nationalism and because they think they are better since S. Korea modernized earlier than China by 30 years. But historically, Koreans were the most sinicized people in E. Asia.
 
Modern day Koreans don't want to admit it because of uber nationalism and because they think they are better since S. Korea modernized earlier than China by 30 years. But historically, Koreans were the most sinicized people in E. Asia.
Well when chinese become more developed, they will be like lil puppies coming back to the fold.
 
Well when chinese become more developed, they will be like lil puppies coming back to the fold.

The Koreans and Japanese are the same. They always have to follow an Alpha. Since the West has been the most powerful in modern times, they look towards the West and are full of condescension towards China, the opposite of how they were in history. But as China continues to rise and modernize, they will one day look towards China as the leader again.

Ethnic Chinese Koreans are basically Chinese.
 
The Koreans and Japanese are the same. They always have to follow an Alpha. Since the West has been the most powerful in modern times, they look towards the West and are full of condescension towards China, the opposite of how they were in history. But as China continues to rise and modernize, they will one day look towards China as the leader again.


Ethnic Chinese Koreans are basically Chinese.
That's why they are afraid, a powerful China will eventually swallow them
 
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