Learn about the "Meteor" air-to-air missile obtained by the Egyptian Air Force, which changes the balance of power in the region

[rent4country]

Shut up and answer my question pajeet

hell no, lol. why stop you from posting such gems. where's the fun in that?

 

[Areesh]

hell no, lol. why stop you from posting such gems. where's the fun in that?

So you can't answer

I get it pajeet

 

[rent4country]

So you can't answer

I get it pajeet

yeah, that's I tested your knowledge with my questions,lol. Okay, haji.

 

[Areesh]

yeah, that's I tested your knowledge with my questions,lol. Okay, haji.

Still no answer to my question pajeet

 

[The SC]

The US has interests in keeping both Egypt and Israel on an (apparent/overt) even keel. Covertly, things are of course different. Egypt gets the same yearly handouts ($2-3 Billion?) from US as Israel does.

So if Egypt is getting ANY arms that proves to be halfway threatening to Israel's own security stance, then US (and Israel) might have made damned sure Egypt agreed to certain concessions to US/Israel's conditions.

Egyptian leaders know that Israelis can walk over Egyptian territory at any point with complete impunity. Sad but true. It is what it is.

We have to love our Muslim brothers but we also have to be realists. Geopolitics is a strange thing.

Look at MBS and the Emiratis and how they are in bed with you know who. I rest my case.

You jumped the 1973 war..where the Egyptians walked over the Usraelis..why is that..if not to justiy fallacies you still believe in..??

Still no answer to my question pajeet

Your question was answered..If Egypt in under threat or attacked it can certainly use its weapons.. this goes without saying..

 

[Bilal9]

You jumped the 1973 war..where the Egyptians walked over the Usraelis..why is that..if not to justiy fallacies you still believe in..??

C'mon man - 1973 was 47 years ago. That frankly was an aberration. Arabs lost their chance.

Egypt's armed forces is no match for Israel's today....neither branch.

Whether sensors, missiles, tanks/armor, air assets...

 

[The SC]

C'mon man - 1973 was 47 years ago. That frankly was an aberration. Arabs lost their chance.

Egypt's armed forces is no match for Israel's today....neither branch.

Whether sensors, missiles, tanks/armor, air assets...

Actually it was very well planned for.. for then and forever.. there was a strategic objective that was achieved ..so don't think just with a loser's mentality.. That war was the latest and was won hands up .. the whole world testify to it..

So now why are you still basing your comments on 50 years ago? you should ask yourself to be true and up to date with events..

Today even if the Israeli Air Force is technologically superior with fifth-generation aircraft and the qualitative additions.. Egypt can neutralize it on the ground in the first hours of the war by dumping missiles with rocket launchers to get air bases out of the battle .... Here we are not talking about random or rudimentary missiles, but rather GPS / INS-guided missiles with maneuvering capabilities. Against the air defenses ... with the neutralization of the Israeli Air Force, half the battle ends before it even begins..

Neutralizing the most important and strongest air force that Usrael possesses can be done in this way. Before even targeting the depth, which are advanced stages in wars. Since under the sky of Egypt and the surrounding region. The Egyptian air defense and the Egyptian interceptor fighters are absolutely capable of completely reducing and lowering the air threat, and in the worst case, if it does not completely neutralize the Usraeli airforce,. its impact will be reduced close to nothing.

Another very important point is the technological difference is in some weapons and equipment. Is countered by corresponding Egyptian fire density in almost all weapons. The Egyptian army has a fire intensity that is extremely strong and extremely dangerous. And I'm not just talking about missile or artillery capabilities.. But also at the level of all land weapons, naval or even air defense. Even from the history of the Missile defense.. Although it is not as advanced as what Israel has..but the passive detection radars networks of Egypt and the diversity of the Egyptian system of radars that operate on different detection waves helped a lot and gives a great power to the Egyptian air defense.. And on land the possession of Israel of the trophy APS, will be overwhelmed by the intensity of the firepower of the Egyptian armored forces. From tanks, anti-tank armored vehicles, and Anti tank missiles weapons, it is considered a river of fire ... it will be directed at the Israeli tanks. On the average, it is possible to target one tank with four or five missiles..

Technology wise..The elements of strength and weakness are present on both sides, but to clarify, Egypt has changed its centers of command and control at the highest level for battle management and a secure communications network, and Egypt is still building its capabilities in this field, the last of which is the military communications satellites..the Spy satellites, reconnaissance aircrafts,. the radar network and early warning radars with good situational awareness and decision-making ability Especially since the enemy is close by.. And radars like Resonans, revealing his airfields,

On top of that ..Usrael does not have a strategic depth..just artillery, rocket launchers, and short ballistic missiles launched from Sinai would easily destroy the Usraeli main infrastructure ..

So you know now who is scared of whom..

The only problem then is the US..But the issue of the Americans entering into a direct war with Egypt in the event of a war with Israel is not that easy, it will supports Usrael with weapons, ammunition and new tech, but I will not get involved directly in the beginning of the battle, unless it feels that Israel is on the verge of disappearing from the map..

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Egypt's armed forces is no match for Israel's today....neither branch.

Guess ppl haven't learned from recent lessons and pushing the same myth you must be slow to discover this but Israel can't be compared to Egypt in 2020s and beyond.. Try to use your brain

 

[arjunk]

Egyptian Rafales probably self destruct if the pilot points the plane towards Israel for more than 0.0001 seconds

 

[The SC]

Egyptian Rafales probably self destruct if the pilot points the plane towards Israel for more than 0.0001 seconds

How old are you?

 

[The SC]

OT:

Take a look at this beauty..

Meteor BVRAAM

 

[Gomig-21]

and I don’t think France will sell Egypt anything that can threaten a NATO country and especially Israel…

So you don't think France will sell Egypt, in other words it's just your opinion.

There is a $60 millions difference between the Rafales that Egypt acquired and those of India, you are not going to tell us that Indians are a bunch of morons or corrupted? There is a reason…unless Egypt got some used crafts with a fresh coat of paint….

That's because that's their first order which includes a huge amount of not only training, but simulators, HMDS which we didn't order because the French offer the Israelis system (Qatar bought it and paid more for its 36 Rafales) we already bought our 2 simulators and went through all the full training in the first contract which is much less now and one of the main differences is India bought a MUCH LARGER batch of MICAs than we did. They purchased 493 MICA Missiles for $1.3Billion in 2012 for their Mirage 2Ks! I'm not sure how many they bought this time around but to equip their 36 Rafales, you can only imagine how much that adds to the deal. Not to mention how many SCALPs they bought, AAMS HAMMERS which are SUPER expensive and Meteors. All that stuff adds so much more to a first order than a 2nd, not to mention we had other deals going with France for the Navy which made the French sweeten the deal. So many factors you easily dismiss or ignore to make your false point. These are the same exact aircraft minus the HMDS and the count of the ammunition and simulators and training. Egypt only allocated $200 million Euros for weapons in this contract. The Meteors are reportedly $2.3 million a piece and the majority of that could easily be for just those since we bought quite a bit of all the other weapons in the first order. And there is a follow-on order that will probably include more weaponry for this batch that they spread out to make the financing work.

EDIT: Oh and the Indian order is 6 additional Rafales than the Egyptian one too. That makes another huge difference in price.

It isn’t wishful thinking of my part,

I think we just proved it.

 

[Ceylal]

So you don't think France will sell Egypt, in other words it's just your opinion.



That's because that's their first order which includes a huge amount of not only training, but simulators, HMDS which we didn't order because the French offer the Israelis system (Qatar bought it and paid more for its 36 Rafales) we already bought our 2 simulators and went through all the full training in the first contract which is much less now and one of the main differences is India bought a MUCH LARGER batch of MICAs than we did. They purchased 493 MICA Missiles for $1.3Billion in 2012 for their Mirage 2Ks! I'm not sure how many they bought this time around but to equip their 36 Rafales, you can only imagine how much that adds to the deal. Not to mention how many SCALPs they bought, AAMS HAMMERS which are SUPER expensive and Meteors. All that stuff adds so much more to a first order than a 2nd, not to mention we had other deals going with France for the Navy which made the French sweeten the deal. So many factors you easily dismiss or ignore to make your false point. These are the same exact aircraft minus the HMDS and the count of the ammunition and simulators and training. Egypt only allocated $200 million Euros for weapons in this contract. The Meteors are reportedly $2.3 million a piece and the majority of that could easily be for just those since we bought quite a bit of all the other weapons in the first order. And there is a follow-on order that will probably include more weaponry for this batch that they spread out to make the financing work.

EDIT: Oh and the Indian order is 6 additional Rafales than the Egyptian one too. That makes another huge difference in price.



I think we just proved it.

I think you are living in fantasy island..Time, will prove that what I have written is more real than your nationalistic reply..Egypt turned to Russia for a reason, because that was the only decent military hardware that acquired for the time being..Let hope that Egypt doesn’t enter in any conflict, it will be sad for Egyptian to witness another disappointing Performance of it’s military equipment, as she did in 67.

 

[Bilal9]

Guess ppl haven't learned from recent lessons and pushing the same myth you must be slow to discover this but Israel can't be compared to Egypt in 2020s and beyond.. Try to use your brain

Bhai you can believe what you believe. No need to put down others.

All we ask is that you back up your claims with examples and enhance our understanding (those less in the know).

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Bhai you can believe what you believe. No need to put down others.

All we ask is that you back up your claims with examples and enhance our understanding (those less in the know).

The only advantage Israel would have over Egypt is F-35 which the Egyptians can make obsolote and take it out of air rendering useless while their defensive systems will be easily breachable as we already have seen in demonstrations. There is not much of shield against Egyptian bombardments towards Israeli cities they could level most of it within 5-6 months.

They will then have to run into a wall of a well armed Egyptian army in conventional engagment and they have zero advantage there whatsoever in armement. They are vastly outnumbered and out-hardware'd. As Sun-tzu said all wars are won before it even begins.. They have less then 1% chance of rebelling them in a conventional engagement against a well armed and more battle hardened troops that vastly outnumber them.. This is not 60 years ago it is 20s and beyond. No comparison in reality