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Nice to know that civilians getting killed in violence amounts to an awesome feeling for you because it puts pressure on Indian govt..
Kashmiri are not a phattu kaum, they are ready to give sacrifices for their freedom. That is an awesome trait to have in a nation.
 
"Kashmiri women raped & killed stoke anger at Indian Forces" ................................................do you have any proof regarding this go follow the case & see post mortem report submitted wchich clearly says drowning ............................................i do want to know how a person becomes journalist in pakistan m very curiouse
Very easy...just post these topics
->Blame US and Nato...
->post some crap about India.
->Blame isreal and RAW
->support kashmir
->Pakistan is superior
->Hindu zoinuist collabration

eq...rupeenews,haqmunsi's blog,daily .pk,janashah

There u r...u got the degree of journalism
 
see your govt accepted that these terrorist were from Pak. When these guys come to India they will not carry the flag of Pak or the great seal of your country. they were talking to various people from ISI.
kashmir is not root cause. Pakistan is. Even if Kashmir is solved according to your liking you will not stop sending terror

well colonel Parhoit killed pakistanis by bombing samjhota express so doesthat make him your indian army invovled in killing of pakistanis??? give us colonel parhoit then! he was directly involved in killing of our people!

do you have proof that kasab and boys were speaking to ISI??? you catch fishermen everyday but these boys got onto a boat rowed into india in 3 days got off and attacked you and you were clueless BUT you KNOW that they spoke to ISI agents!! :rofl:

so solve kashmir automatically the freedom struggle will end! and no more call to arms from kashmiris! ;)

pakistan is not the problem INDIAN self complex is! and as long as that remains indians can never move forward!! time for indians to stop making excuses! :coffee:
 
blah blah...

Sophian deaths were proved that they caused by drowning.
One of the women was found to be virgin.;)
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Slap in the @ss for all those who get an arousal with every unfortunate death in the valley and an orgasm everytime they put IA to the blame. In this case people floating the shopian propaganda. :angry:
 
Key word=disputed and undisputed area, hopefully you smart enough to understood the difference, soft spot? as i said you know nothing whats going on in China, who are the real victims in the so-called killing uighurs issue.
Any Chinese will be piss by all those lies from the western media while the truth was hundred of hans Chinese were being killed instead.
Now keep us out of this and i will leave your discussion alone.

Ah, those wonderful words again....."Disputed Area"

So. Because the UN happened to be in on this issue 60 years ago, something the whole world (and the Chinese Government) has deliberately let go.....everybody uses the"disputed area" to stick their noses into the Kashmiri Trough. Do you know that China considers Kashmir as India's internal affair?

Let's not get into what the real truth is. I have never been to Kashmir in my adult life and I doubt if you've been to Xinjiang and met any Ughiurs. That stuff is strategy and geopolitics- people will always kill people and others will protest.

Back to the original topic- what I'm gently trying to tell our Pakistani friends is, "Don't pretend Kashmir is about Muslims. You don't really care. It's a personal India- Pakistan thing, have the guts to see it for what it is."

India and China understand "live and let live". Pakistanis need to do so, too. I had to drag China's name into it, just for the example.

Again, Peace bro:cheers:
 
ANALYSIS - India struggles to douse Kashmir's separatist fire

By Alistair Scrutton

(Reuters) - India faces a full-blown separatist uprising in Kashmir that may sink hopes for peace in the strategic region as disaffected Muslim youth rebel against a government seen as leaderless, complacent and out of touch.

New Delhi paints the street protests as incited by Pakistan-based militants or radical bands of stone throwers. But the evidence is growing this may be a wider and spontaneous movement led by young Kashmiris angry at years of misrule.

Critics say the risk is that India's refusal to recognize the roots of the alienation may ignite a vicious cycle of violence and return Kashmir to the kind of upheaval seen during the 1990s.

It all bodes badly for a disputed region seen as key to wider long-term stability under South Asia's security arch of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"This is the most serious challenge to central authority I have seen in 20 years," said Siddharth Varadarajan, strategic affairs editor of The Hindu newspaper. "And the government doesn't have much of a clue how to resolve it."

Muslim-majority Kashmir, which India and Pakistan both claim but rule in parts, has been racked by militancy since 1989 when an insurgency against Indian rule erupted. Around 47,000 people have died but militancy had fallen in the past few years.

The latest violence started with the death of a teenage student in early June. The region has been locked down for weeks, and protesters have defied curfews to attack police with stones and set security camps and police stations on fire.

The death toll in seven weeks has risen to at least 40, mostly demonstrators shot dead by police. Basic foods and fuel supplies are running short and families have been confined to their houses for days, with schools and businesses shut.

So polarised has it become that protesters seem more radical than their leaders. An appeal by Syed Ali Shah Geelani, a separatist hardliner, for peaceful protests went unheeded.

For many Kashmiris, the whole population appears to support the protests. Volunteers have established blood donation camps, pooled rice and vegetables in community kitchens and supplied food to patients in Srinagar hospitals.

"The protests seem to have taken a direction of their own, which we've never seen before," said well-known separatist leader Sajjad Gani Lone. "There is not a leader who could say stop the protests and they would stop it."

VACUUM IN LEADERSHIP

It did not have to be this way.

Only 18 months ago, hopes for peace in Kashmir grew after young Kashmiri leader Omar Abdullah, who is backed by the central government in New Delhi, won the state election on promises of ending injustice in the region and pushing economic development.

His election came only months after mass protests across the valley, then the biggest in two decades, sparked by a dispute over land for a Hindu shrine trust.

But those hopes were quickly dashed by Abdullah's own mistakes -- he was seen as detached from the problems of Kashmiris -- as well as alleged army abuses including the rape of young girls, and heavy handedness from India's government, such as the banning of pre-paid cellular phones and text messaging on security grounds.

"Omar has mishandled the situation but the real problem is that India's political leadership took their eyes off the ball," said political analyst Mahesh Rangarajan.

Home Minister P. Chidambaram says more than 1,000 security personnel were injured by protesters and that the government is open to a political settlement if demonstrators shun violence.

But over the last 18 months, New Delhi failed to move on any of Kashmir's contentious issues, including a widely hated law that gives special powers to the army such as holding suspects for up to two years without trial.

"It is all symbolic of the vacuum in Indian leadership," said political analyst Narasimhan Rao.

"This government is just moving from one controversy to another," he added, referring to government battles over high inflation to controversies over mismanagement in the build-up to the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi.

Indeed, the government appears to have little policy initiative to diffuse the crisis aside from just wearing down the protesters, perhaps hoping that the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan next week will help protests subside.

That same policy led the 2008 protests to tail off, a relief that proved only temporary.

"Kashmiris cannot offer the same degree of mobilisation forever," said Sheikh Showkat Hussain, a Kashmir university law teacher. "New Delhi interprets that as reconciliation by Kashmir. In reality, it is just a dormant volcano."

New Delhi does have a card up its sleeve. Despite the deaths and protesters, this is not the equivalent of China's Tibet.

While Kashmir was a diplomatic football in the 1990s, this time round the troubles have had little international resonance, with no criticism from the United Nations or the United States.

While Pakistan has made some diplomatic noise, there is little sign that the disturbances will impact on relations that are tentatively improving after the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

"Compared to a decade ago, no one is willing to annoy India," said Varadarajan. "It carries too much weight globally. In this region, the world 's eyes are on Afghanistan, not Kashmir."
 
yeah who wants to go back then ... they will not come to pakistan for summer vacations i guess ......
we are not u ppl killing there own men

as claimed by you, no one can live for 2-3 years and then die.
Assume they died in pak after india handed them over. so you are saying they did mauj-masti for 2-3 yrs and then died? WAH!!
 
Very easy...just post these topics
->Blame US and Nato...
->post some crap about India.
->Blame isreal and RAW
->support kashmir
->Pakistan is superior
->Hindu zoinuist collabration

eq...rupeenews,haqmunsi's blog,daily .pk,janashah

There u r...u got the degree of journalism

Write average blogs, have a website and join local press club (even if you are a trainee typewriter in some average newspaper) and also join 20-25 defence forums parallely.

You have become a local journalist.
 
Brave men never harm a woman but brave slum dog Police and army feels proud to fire at women

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Brave Indian Policeman breaking window panes of a bus with Kashmiri women

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By Alistair Scrutton

(Reuters) - India faces a full-blown separatist uprising in Kashmir that may sink hopes for peace in the strategic region as disaffected Muslim youth rebel against a government seen as leaderless, complacent and out of touch.

New Delhi paints the street protests as incited by Pakistan-based militants or radical bands of stone throwers. But the evidence is growing this may be a wider and spontaneous movement led by young Kashmiris angry at years of misrule.

Critics say the risk is that India's refusal to recognize the roots of the alienation may ignite a vicious cycle of violence and return Kashmir to the kind of upheaval seen during the 1990s.

It all bodes badly for a disputed region seen as key to wider long-term stability under South Asia's security arch of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"This is the most serious challenge to central authority I have seen in 20 years," said Siddharth Varadarajan, strategic affairs editor of The Hindu newspaper. "And the government doesn't have much of a clue how to resolve it."

Muslim-majority Kashmir, which India and Pakistan both claim but rule in parts, has been racked by militancy since 1989 when an insurgency against Indian rule erupted. Around 47,000 people have died but militancy had fallen in the past few years.

The latest violence started with the death of a teenage student in early June. The region has been locked down for weeks, and protesters have defied curfews to attack police with stones and set security camps and police stations on fire.

The death toll in seven weeks has risen to at least 40, mostly demonstrators shot dead by police. Basic foods and fuel supplies are running short and families have been confined to their houses for days, with schools and businesses shut.

So polarised has it become that protesters seem more radical than their leaders. An appeal by Syed Ali Shah Geelani, a separatist hardliner, for peaceful protests went unheeded.

For many Kashmiris, the whole population appears to support the protests. Volunteers have established blood donation camps, pooled rice and vegetables in community kitchens and supplied food to patients in Srinagar hospitals.

"The protests seem to have taken a direction of their own, which we've never seen before," said well-known separatist leader Sajjad Gani Lone. "There is not a leader who could say stop the protests and they would stop it."

VACUUM IN LEADERSHIP

It did not have to be this way.

Only 18 months ago, hopes for peace in Kashmir grew after young Kashmiri leader Omar Abdullah, who is backed by the central government in New Delhi, won the state election on promises of ending injustice in the region and pushing economic development.

His election came only months after mass protests across the valley, then the biggest in two decades, sparked by a dispute over land for a Hindu shrine trust.

But those hopes were quickly dashed by Abdullah's own mistakes -- he was seen as detached from the problems of Kashmiris -- as well as alleged army abuses including the rape of young girls, and heavy handedness from India's government, such as the banning of pre-paid cellular phones and text messaging on security grounds.

"Omar has mishandled the situation but the real problem is that India's political leadership took their eyes off the ball," said political analyst Mahesh Rangarajan.

Home Minister P. Chidambaram says more than 1,000 security personnel were injured by protesters and that the government is open to a political settlement if demonstrators shun violence.

But over the last 18 months, New Delhi failed to move on any of Kashmir's contentious issues, including a widely hated law that gives special powers to the army such as holding suspects for up to two years without trial.

"It is all symbolic of the vacuum in Indian leadership," said political analyst Narasimhan Rao.

"This government is just moving from one controversy to another," he added, referring to government battles over high inflation to controversies over mismanagement in the build-up to the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi.

Indeed, the government appears to have little policy initiative to diffuse the crisis aside from just wearing down the protesters, perhaps hoping that the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan next week will help protests subside.

That same policy led the 2008 protests to tail off, a relief that proved only temporary.

"Kashmiris cannot offer the same degree of mobilisation forever," said Sheikh Showkat Hussain, a Kashmir university law teacher. "New Delhi interprets that as reconciliation by Kashmir. In reality, it is just a dormant volcano."

New Delhi does have a card up its sleeve. Despite the deaths and protesters, this is not the equivalent of China's Tibet.

While Kashmir was a diplomatic football in the 1990s, this time round the troubles have had little international resonance, with no criticism from the United Nations or the United States.

While Pakistan has made some diplomatic noise, there is little sign that the disturbances will impact on relations that are tentatively improving after the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

"Compared to a decade ago, no one is willing to annoy India," said Varadarajan. "It carries too much weight globally. In this region, the world 's eyes are on Afghanistan, not Kashmir."

(Additional reporting by Sheikh Mushtaq in Srinagar; Editing by Krittivas Mukherjee and Sanjeev Miglani)

ANALYSIS - India struggles to douse Kashmir's separatist fire | Reuters
 
Firstly Uighurs is not a disputed territory or occupied territory! like kashmir is!

IF and i say again BIG IF this dad raping daughter kind of thing is happening in UIGHURS then WE condemn it be it any part of the world!! if the chinese are killing innocent people in UIGHURS ofcourse we condemn it we condemn any nation of involved in such atrocities! be it bosnia or Palestine or KASHMIR!!

but do the indians stop trade with israel for killing palestanians? do you stop DIPLOMATIC COURTSHIP WITH ISRAEL??? ofcourse not then if the rising shinning ohhhh all mighty india doesn't do it you can't expect us (according to indians) barbaric naive pakistanis to do it can you???



by the way do we discuss NAXAL PROBLEM IN INDIA??? NO REASON IS BECAUSE THAT IS INDIA'S INTERNAL PROBLEM

quoting myself for indians :coffee:
 
hahaha, the thread kinda illustrates that its more than a few generations away.

i do think given the mistrust of pakistan, kashmiris would be wise to completely dissociate themselves from pakistan to have any chance of freedom.
 
"Kashmiri women raped & killed stoke anger at Indian Forces" ................................................do you have any proof regarding this go follow the case & see post mortem report submitted wchich clearly says drowning ............................................i do want to know how a person becomes journalist in pakistan m very curiouse

The world knows about that altered report that too after a looooooooooongggggggggggg time

So LAY OFF AND DONT PRESENT EXCUSES FOR INDIAN TERRORISM IN KASKHIR
 

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