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Roberto Maroni, the president of Lombardy, and Silvio Berlusconi, at a press conference this week to propose a referendum on autonomy for all Italian regions. Photograph: Lo Scalzo/REX/Shutterstock

Two of Italy’s richest regions are holding referendums on greater autonomy on Sunday, in the latest push by European regions to wrest more power from the centre.

Lombardy and Veneto, between them home to a quarter of Italy’s population, are seeking semi-autonomy, giving them more control over their finances and administration.

Although legally non-binding, the exercise is the latest ripple in a wave of votes on greater autonomy across Europe in recent years, from Scotland in 2014 to Brexit last year and Catalonia in September.

Although both regions have in the past campaigned for complete independence from Rome, their leaders have made it clear the ballots are about autonomy and not secession.

Some insight into the dynamics can be gleaned from the example of Sappada, a mountainous town in Veneto that straddles the regional border with Friuli-Venezia Giulia.

A skiing and hiking paradise, the town is on the verge of becoming the first in Italy to switch regions to become part of Friuli-Venezia Giulia, one of Italy’s five semi-autonomous regions. The plan was approved by the Italian government in September after a lengthy bureaucratic process.

“The reasons for people wanting to be part of Friuli are varied: we have our own dialect, which originates from German, and culturally we feel closer to Friuli,” Manuel Piller Hoffer, the mayor of Sappada, told the Guardian.

“But the main one is economic: living next door to a semi-autonomous region, people see advantages that they don’t have. They see finances being controlled better, a better health service and sustainable investments being made – they see a better standard of living.”

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It is this kind of freedom that Veneto and Lombardy crave. The regions, both led by governors from the far-right Northern League – a party that in the past has campaigned on a platform of independence – are also using the votes to send a message to Rome, hoping that evidence of strong support among the population for special powers will strengthen their hand in negotiations with the government.

Technically the plebiscites, which are costing more than €55m to host, are unnecessary. The Italian constitution allows each region (there are 20 altogether) to seek to widen their powers via dialogue with the central government, without the need of a public vote. Emilia-Romagna, a northern region led by a centre-left Democratic party administration, triggered such a process on Wednesday.

“Regions mainly need to prove that their accounts are in order. If there are deficits in the regional budget then this is an obstacle to recognising greater powers,” said Gian Candido De Martin, a law professor at Rome’s Luiss University. “This is the route Emilia-Romagna has chosen to take, not a referendum.”

However, Luca Zaia, the president of Veneto, and Roberto Maroni, his counterpart in Lombardy, claim that attempts at dialogue with Rome have been ignored and a referendum is the only viable route.

Their main incentive for achieving greater autonomy is money: Zaia and Maroni claim their regions each send more than €50bn more of their taxes each year to Rome than they get in return.

Both regions want more control over immigration as well as their education systems and industries. Lombardy, with the business hub of Milan as its capital, and Veneto, the producer of one of Italy’s most precious exports, prosecco, respectively generate around 20% and 10% of the country’s total GDP.

The calls for greater autonomy are expected to pass the test by a wide margin, despite strong opposition from business leaders including Luciano Benetton, co-founder of the Veneto-based clothing chain.

The public votes are backed by the insurgent Five Star Movement, while the ruling Democratic party has urged its supporters to abstain.

Alessandro Alfieri, a Democratic regional councillor for Lombardy, said this was mainly because the party saw the referendums as a waste of money.

“We all agree with having more control over things like scientific research, education and innovation, but do not agree with throwing away over €55m,” he said. “The referendum is a huge expense and not very useful, especially if you can do the same as Emilia-Romagna.”

Alfieri said another motive for Maroni and Zaia was to try to bolster support for the Northern League before elections. As the party’s leader, Matteo Salvini, strives to attract more voters in Italy’s south, there are fears about losing voters in the north.

“While Salvini tries to talk to the whole of Italy, they are losing support in some parts of the north, so this kind of referendum is being used to try to retain support, especially with talk of keeping more money within the territories,” said Alfieri.

Marco Gasparinetti, from Venice, the capital of Veneto, said there was little support among Venetians for the Northern League but most people would vote yes in the referendum as they cherished getting decisions made closer to home.

Like Sappada, they look towards their semi-autonomous neighbours of Friuli-Venezia Giulia and Trentino-Alto Adige with envy. “Especially with our history, being surrounded by regions with special powers is uncomfortable for us,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lls-in-europes-latest-referendums-on-autonomy
 
See like water fall effect. Basq state may also declare its independence, Bavarians also want freedom from Germany, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland may also want autonomy or total independence. But independence within the framework of EU does not change much on the ground or it is not such a big deal. These will be soft separations more like becoming autonomous but still people will be free to move, trade will work the same way, laws will be more or less the same and currency will still be euro.
 
We have visted both Lake Como & Lake Garda annually on Family holidays

With out doubt amongst the most stunning & beautifully landscaped regions in the world

Set back against the swiss ALPS and Dolomite mountains these regions wouLd be a huge loss to ITLAY
 
GOOD!!

I so approve of this. Further disintegration of central power in European states

:D
 
I am in favor of these states seceding and becoming autonomous. Italy has no right to keep these regions hostage when they don't want anything to do with the central government and nation. I fully support their right to become autonomous and move away from Italian oppression.
 
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

Scotland literally nearly booted the nationalists out of power in Scotland, and already said a mass no to independence..NI's government is power sharing with the current conservatives and leaving the EU, and Wales couldn't be more for the union.
The UK is stronger than it has ever been.....
 
Scotland literally nearly booted the nationalists out of power in Scotland, and already said a mass no to independence..NI's government is power sharing with the current conservatives and leaving the EU, and Wales couldn't be more for the union.
The UK is stronger than it has ever been.....
I just listed the areas in Europe that have voices for independence regardless of what are the percentages.
 
I just listed the areas in Europe that have voices for independence regardless of what are the percentages.

Fair play, but the voice in the UK is small and only in Scotland, and that to weakens with each day. You only need to look at the current state of the Scottish economy under the nationalists to see why the Scots are turning on them.
 
Fair play, but the voice in the UK is small and only in Scotland, and that to weakens with each day. You only need to look at the current state of the Scottish economy under the nationalists to see why the Scots are turning on them.
You know better prawa since you are in UK, I just remember the referendum in Sep. 2014 when I was in Scotland and the result was 49-51. But I didn't follow it afterwards so the situation may have changed and it is good for UK. BTW I was in favour of UK but some of my hosts were in favour of independence but not very passionately.
 
what would happen if i declare indepedence in my dorm room and stop paying the rent?
 
You know better prawa since you are in UK, I just remember the referendum in Sep. 2014 when I was in Scotland and the result was 49-51. But I didn't follow it afterwards so the situation may have changed and it is good for UK. BTW I was in favour of UK but some of my hosts were in favour of independence but not very passionately.

You're getting the two mixed up bro i.e. EU referendum and the Scottish one. The pro-union side won the Scottish vote with 55% in favour and 44% for independence.
 
You're getting the two mixed up bro i.e. EU referendum and the Scottish one. The pro-union side won the Scottish vote with 55% in favour and 44% for independence.

Sad how the EU support for Scotland is non-existent in another country of the EU.

Literally had EU Parliamentarians rushing to kiss a$$ on how to pave the way for Scotland to be part of the EU once it achieved independence.
 
pretty much nonsense, since nothing will change. The referendum is non binding and actually just kindergarten stuff
 

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