Israel will make own decision on Iran, says army chief

[Veni]

Well, what's taking them so long then?

'IF'this happen

 

[PteX]

Well, what's taking them so long then?

The weather is a bit too shiny.

 

[boris]

The weather is a bit too shiny.

You deserve a mate.

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i agree with this ...

So do I sir,so do I.

 

[CarbonD]

Isreal cowardly attacks. We have seen it in gulf war, they do pre-emptive strike on countries bas***ds

 

[yoku]

I sometimes feel that Israel should attack Iran and destroy the Ayatollahs regime once for all. From my experience of interactions with Iranians, I feel the regime has no support from Middle class and Urban Youth which are the Propellers of growth of any nation.
most of them feel nostalgic about the days of shah. Some of them are just plain Islamists but most are just fed up with the theocratic rule and restriction of Free Speech and Personal Liberties for Women.

 

[Zabaniyah]

The weather is a bit too shiny.

Awesome...

People just love sunshine don't they?

 

[Pakistanisage]

Last time Israelis atttacked lebanon, a ragtag poorly equipped Hizbullah warriors gave them a thrashing of their lives. Does Israel want a sequel to that freak show ?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Last time Israelis atttacked lebanon, a ragtag poorly equipped Hizbullah warriors gave them a thrashing of their lives. Does Israel want a sequel to that freak show ?

Well, considering that Iran is a bit far from Israel and given that there are various Iranian proxy groups in the Middle East, just how would the Israelis alone control that kind of environment?

They don't have great relations with the Arabs or anything. Relations with Turkey isn't that great either.

Do Israelis ever make sense in reference to bombing Iran's nuclear facilities?

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Well, considering that Iran is a bit far from Israel and given that there are various Iranian proxy groups in the Middle East, just how would the Israelis alone control that kind of environment?

They don't have great relations with the Arabs or anything. Relations with Turkey isn't that great either.

Do Israelis ever make sense in reference to bombing Iran's nuclear facilities?

Israel just threatens to attack Iran, but in reality all they can do is to push US to do the bombing.

CIA ex-chief Michael V. Hayden told a group of foreign policy experts last month that Israel is not capable of inflicting significant damage on Iran's nuclear sites. “Some are situated at the outer range of Israeli bombers, and others are underground,” he said.

"The Israelis aren't going to [attack Iran]…they can't do it, it's beyond their capacity…. They only have the ability to make this worse," Hayden added.

 

[T-Rex]

Iran Raid Seen as a Huge Task for Israeli Jets
Hasan Sarbakhshian/Associated Press



WASHINGTON — Should Israel decide to launch a strike on Iran, its pilots would have to fly more than 1,000 miles across unfriendly airspace, refuel in the air en route, fight off Iran’s air defenses, attack multiple underground sites simultaneously — and use at least 100 planes.


That is the assessment of American defense officials and military analysts close to the Pentagon, who say that an Israeli attack meant to set back Iran’s nuclear program would be a huge and highly complex operation. They describe it as far different from Israel’s “surgical” strikes on a nuclear reactor in Syria in 2007 and Iraq’s Osirak reactor in 1981.

“All the pundits who talk about ‘Oh, yeah, bomb Iran,’ it ain’t going to be that easy,” said Lt. Gen. David A. Deptula, who retired last year as the Air Force’s top intelligence official and who planned the American air campaigns in 2001 in Afghanistan and in the 1991 Gulf War.

Speculation that Israel might attack Iran has intensified in recent months as tensions between the countries have escalated. In a sign of rising American concern, Tom Donilon, the national security adviser, met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel in Jerusalem on Sunday, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, warned on CNN that an Israeli strike on Iran right now would be “destabilizing.” Similarly, the British foreign secretary, William Hague, told the BBC that attacking Iran would not be “the wise thing” for Israel to do “at this moment.”

But while an Israeli spokesman in Washington, Lior Weintraub, said the country continued to push for tougher sanctions on Iran, he reiterated that Israel, like the United States, “is keeping all options on the table.”

The possible outlines of an Israeli attack have become a source of debate in Washington, where some analysts question whether Israel even has the military capacity to carry it off. One fear is that the United States would be sucked into finishing the job — a task that even with America’s far larger arsenal of aircraft and munitions could still take many weeks, defense analysts said. Another fear is of Iranian retaliation.

“I don’t think you’ll find anyone who’ll say, ‘Here’s how it’s going to be done — handful of planes, over an evening, in and out,’ ” said Andrew R. Hoehn, a former Pentagon official who is now director of the Rand Corporation’s Project Air Force, which does extensive research for the United States Air Force.

Michael V. Hayden, who was the director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006 to 2009, said flatly last month that airstrikes capable of seriously setting back Iran’s nuclear program were “beyond the capacity” of Israel, in part because of the distance that attack aircraft would have to travel and the scale of the task.

Still, a top defense official cautioned in an interview last week that “we don’t have perfect visibility” into Israel’s arsenal, let alone its military calculations. His views were echoed by Anthony H. Cordesman, an influential military analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “There are a lot of unknowns, there are a lot of potential risks, but Israel may know that those risks aren’t that serious,” he said.

Given that Israel would want to strike Iran’s four major nuclear sites — the uranium enrichment facilities at Natanz and Fordo, the heavy-water reactor at Arak and the yellowcake-conversion plant at Isfahan — military analysts say the first problem is how to get there. There are three potential routes: to the north over Turkey, to the south over Saudi Arabia or taking a central route across Jordan and Iraq.

The route over Iraq would be the most direct and likely, defense analysts say, because Iraq effectively has no air defenses and the United States, after its December withdrawal, no longer has the obligation to defend Iraqi skies. “That was a concern of the Israelis a year ago, that we would come up and intercept their aircraft if the Israelis chose to take a path across Iraq,” said a former defense official who asked for anonymity to discuss secret intelligence.

Assuming that Jordan tolerates the Israeli overflight, the next problem is distance. Israel has American-built F-15I and F-16I fighter jets that can carry bombs to the targets, but their range — depending on altitude, speed and payload — falls far short of the minimum 2,000-mile round trip. That does not include an aircraft’s “loiter time” over a target plus the potential of having to fight off attacks from Iranian missiles and planes.

 

[Tshering22]

This would be the second most illogical conflict in the region's history after US-Iraq War in 2003.

 

[Leviza]

Why dont someone just give iran some nukes so this matter is solved once for all... it will keep israel at its place....

 

[tvsram1992]

Iran and Israel should attack Saudi Arabia. The World will be in Peace forever!

cant imagine the situation with out oil

 

[SOHEIL]

I sometimes feel that Israel should attack Iran and destroy the Ayatollahs regime once for all. From my experience of interactions with Iranians, I feel the regime has no support from Middle class and Urban Youth which are the Propellers of growth of any nation.
most of them feel nostalgic about the days of shah. Some of them are just plain Islamists but most are just fed up with the theocratic rule and restriction of Free Speech and Personal Liberties for Women.

ha ha ha ... good NONSENSE ... try more

 

[Leviza]

I sometimes feel that Israel should attack Iran and destroy the Ayatollahs regime once for all. From my experience of interactions with Iranians, I feel the regime has no support from Middle class and Urban Youth which are the Propellers of growth of any nation.
most of them feel nostalgic about the days of shah. Some of them are just plain Islamists but most are just fed up with the theocratic rule and restriction of Free Speech and Personal Liberties for Women.

Free Speech and Personal Liberties for Women lol Free speech my foot, if you know what this means you will say its not free speech, its common speech they like to hear