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Iran's Supreme Leader orders the restart of enrichment activities

If the agreement didn't contain any penalty for parties (Except Iran) who walk out from it as per wish then agreement was poorly negotiated from Iranian side.
The UNSC has got veto right dead end, the Hague court takes years ... how could we punish them while the US as main violator of the accord as permanent member of The UNSC violates a SCR offered by very same permanent member?
 
Just Iranian chest thumping. They think this is a Turkish soap opera by showing off new generation centrifuges.

Iran is unlikely to return back to full production. Instead these Shakespearean theatrics will continue till 2020 US election. Iran will see if another (more friendly) US adminstration will come to power to negotiate with. That’s how this pragmatic regime works.

Except in this case they have no cards to play (no fordow, no Arak, etc). So I am curious how they are going to hold any leverage in the talks other than the simple THREAT of increasing centrifuge production.
 
Iran is unlikely to return back to full production. Instead these Shakespearean theatrics will continue till 2020 US election. Iran will see if another (more friendly) US adminstration will come to power to negotiate with. That’s how this pragmatic regime works.
Trump will be reelected on 2020, I give you my word.
 
What's the point even. We'll invest millions into it, and then some "reformer" will come again
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and tell the Iranian population that if we change our name from "The Islamic Republic of Iran" to "Sossol Boys of Eye-Ran", we will all get free US made dildos, and the naive idiots will be dancing in the streets.

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Just give the keys to the Americans. Our people don't have any gheirat anyway, like the rest of the fucking middle east. Let's just stand in the line behind the Arabs
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and Pakistanis and the Turks
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the rest in bending over the white people. Who fucking cares anymore.

The number of people in the M.E. who are willing to do stand up against imperialism and be independent is tiny. I remember when we send a monkey into space during Ahmadinejad's government,
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it was constantly mocked (by the west, the region, and the Iranians).

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But when there were rumors of a real McDonalds in Iran, there was massive hardons.
 
LOL!,pakistan helping iran acquire nukes?,thats a good one.In reality a.q.khan supplied iran,libya and probably others with centrifuge components and plans in return for cash,that was it,a simple business transaction by a corrupt man to line his own pockets and nothing more.
The pakistan government couldnt even build its section of the ip pipeline for fear of angering the americans despite pakistans need for the cheap energy it would`ve supplied and yet supposedly pakistan was going to help iran produce nuclear weapons?,somehow I dont think so.
If iran had truly wanted the bomb rather than nuclear power,then it could`ve had the bomb at virtually any point in the last 10-15 years purely thru its own efforts and it wouldnt have required the massive civilian enrichment program that iran ultimately built despite the best efforts of the west and its lickspittles to prevent it.
 
LOL!,pakistan helping iran acquire nukes?,thats a good one.In reality a.q.khan supplied iran,libya and probably others with centrifuge components and plans in return for cash,that was it,a simple business transaction by a corrupt man to line his own pockets and nothing more.
The pakistan government couldnt even build its section of the ip pipeline for fear of angering the americans despite pakistans need for the cheap energy it would`ve supplied and yet supposedly pakistan was going to help iran produce nuclear weapons?,somehow I dont think so.
If iran had truly wanted the bomb rather than nuclear power,then it could`ve had the bomb at virtually any point in the last 10-15 years purely thru its own efforts and it wouldnt have required the massive civilian enrichment program that iran ultimately built despite the best efforts of the west and its lickspittles to prevent it.
All talks and no action thats Iran for you
Margba Murika
 
Except in this case they have no cards to play (no fordow, no Arak, etc). So I am curious how they are going to hold any leverage in the talks other than the simple THREAT of increasing centrifuge production.

The Fordow center still in its place. There if necessary, Iran can again put cascades of centrifuges for enriching uranium without big problems. The infrastructure is still there and the removed centrifuges stayed in Iran.
 
The Fordow center still in its place. There if necessary, Iran can again put cascades of centrifuges for enriching uranium without big problems. The infrastructure is still there and the removed centrifuges stayed in Iran.
Gordon have limited capacities . right now they are working on mat and infrastructure.
 
Thanks I am gooood.

There is no bad or worse ... it's not about economy it's about secession of Iran. I told you they would not stop at missile program or regional activities as they didn't stop at nuclear station, once you give up all these the real problem would start. Look what happened in Iraq and Syria and Kurdistan of Iraq and isis ... it failed but not finished yet.
Unlike what you said I think IR right now is in much more better position than it was in 2012, but the current government in my eyes has not been prepared for such a war Rohani gang only sole prescription was negotiation and nothing beyond as if it'd work like a miracle and it wasted all the precious time to solve internal problems just to look at foreigners hands to invest while the medicine is nothing but looking inside many countries are in good relation with western countries facing no sanctions and their economy is collapsing , Instead of suppressing people heavily best scenario for IR is one thing relying more on people which would not happen unless strict discipline in economy, fighting corruption, taking back people trust.
The economy problems are every where and not unique to Iran, Jordan now is facing demonstrations, British PM says it can not increase nurses salaries while on the contrary salaries got decreased many business is facing trouble in London, all countries in the region facing water problems and poverty and corruption ...
The point is yes we have problems but who doesn't have ... and who said it's end of world? the US?bibi?is it corruption in Iran higher than Nixon era in the US amid Vietnam war and cold war with USSR?
We have 2 options,
1. The path we opted in 1979 to be independent to decide for ourselves, keeping up with principles is very hard but at the end victory is ours.
2. To accept the US hegemony and we will be slaves for the rest of our lives.

as i said before, i know its not only about nuclear deal, its about struggling with US since the first day after revolution. the prolem is iran's foreign policy. its ambitious is larger than its capacity. when iran has not strong economy, strong militay forces(compare to US), not being in ledge of technology, its stupid to start to fight with US hegemony and its all interests in the region. comparing the problems in other countries with iran is kind of like a joke.
about make progressing, you need both of them, 1- being able to trade and receive investments and not being under sanctions. 2- your management and policy(looking inside).

i dont believe in your 2 options. we dont need to choose between black and white. we could take actions base on our ability and strength. more strength, more actions. in your logic all the world are slaves. but i see countries like china and india. no need to be like arabs stats around persian gulf.
if we would have a connection with US and accept some of their interests in the region, we wouldn't face such enmity and pressure. just take a look at relationship between china and US. its not easy for US to confront with them. or take a look at relationship between iran and turkey. with all those disagreement about syria( fighting through proxy against each other) and regional issues, they are in peace, and its all because of benefits both sides have in trade with each other. do you think all countries are stupid and they dont have any ambitious and they all are slave and puppet of US? no. they see the facts and are not in illusion. they just see the benefit of themselves to become stronger and as much as they are stronger they can move forward to their goals.
at the end, whats your solution? do you want iran builds bomb and being isolated in the world? we can see north korea who went this path and how is the end.
 
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What's the point even. We'll invest millions into it, and then some "reformer" will come again
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and tell the Iranian population that if we change our name from "The Islamic Republic of Iran" to "Sossol Boys of Eye-Ran", we will all get free US made dildos, and the naive idiots will be dancing in the streets.

301652_617.jpg


Just give the keys to the Americans. Our people don't have any gheirat anyway, like the rest of the fucking middle east. Let's just stand in the line behind the Arabs
Egypt-US.jpg


and Pakistanis and the Turks
gty-erdogan-trump-presser-ps-170516_16x9_992.jpg


the rest in bending over the white people. Who fucking cares anymore.

The number of people in the M.E. who are willing to do stand up against imperialism and be independent is tiny. I remember when we send a monkey into space during Ahmadinejad's government,
266068_295.jpg


it was constantly mocked (by the west, the region, and the Iranians).

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But when there were rumors of a real McDonalds in Iran, there was massive hardons.
Dare you mention Pakistan in ur list?, talk about ur ghairat, not ours, if u didnt have the balls to stand up to the US, dont smear that on Pakistan, when it was our time we said "we will eat grass but will do atomic tests", we stood up to the entire world when it mattered and hence are the sixth largest and one and only atomic power of the muslim world, we secured our future long a go n hence the most the west can do against us is yell or try to launch proxy groups while we openly spank their asses in afghanistan, nothing they can do about it but yell, so again we Pakistanis have ghariat, where is ur ghairat is the real question here.
 
Dare you mention Pakistan in ur list?, talk about ur ghairat, not ours, if u didnt have the balls to stand up to the US, dont smear that on Pakistan, when it was our time we said "we will eat grass but will do atomic tests", we stood up to the entire world when it mattered and hence are the sixth largest and one and only atomic power of the muslim world, we secured our future long a go n hence the most the west can do against us is yell or try to launch proxy groups while we openly spank their asses in afghanistan, nothing they can do about it but yell, so again we Pakistanis have ghariat, where is ur ghairat is the real question here.
its not about ghairat. its about ideology and foreign policy, pakistan acquired bombs while obeys US. as long as you are not a threat to the US, there is no problem having nukes. but unlike pakistan, iran has an offensive ideology that is fighting against US hegemony and interests in all the region. they are really fighting israel by actions not empty words. the shah of iran was close to get nuke and also had good relationship with west because he wasnt against US interests.
 
its not about ghairat. its about ideology and foreign policy, pakistan acquired bombs while obeys US. as long as you are not a threat to the US, there is no problem having nukes. but unlike pakistan, iran has an offensive ideology that is fighting against US hegemony and interests in all the region. they are really fighting israel by actions not empty words. the shah of iran was close to get nuke and also had good relationship with west because he wasnt against US interests.
Who told u we obey the Us??, they launched multiple proxy groups like ttp, bla etc in Pakistan because we obey them?, they wanted to break up Pakistan but we thwarted their olans in the past decade, we made Afghanistan the graveyard of their dreams, were u sleeping when that was happening, we openly kicked the yanks in their teeth in afghanistan with our proxy groups just as they tried to destroy us via their proxy groups, we are the only muslim nuclear power, the only one!!! who do u think is a greater threat to israel and the Us, the islamic republic of Pakistan, nation of 200 mil muslim founded on the ideology of islam with the strongest, most expereinced army and airforce in the islamic world, a nation that broke the communist soviet union into pieces as the world watched or iran, a country they can destroy in a month via their crusie missles and airforce if it came to that. Iran can be destroyed by direct attack, Pakistan just cannot be, we can nuke Israel and even the Us if they try to attack us, can you?? I have nothing against iran and consider it a brother islamic country but if u refuse to recognize the value and standing of Pakistan than i will shake the rude truth in ur face mate. We are smarter at playing the international game, we know how to snatch objectives from the lions mouth, that is why even after openly spanking the yanks in afghanistan they still cannot isolate or sanction us, they still beg us every month to help them reach peace in afghanistan, they still beg us every month to give them a respectible way outta afghanistan, thy resort to threats and when that doesnt work they again start begging, we went nuclear and after that not only did we get to keep our bombs but we expanded our program to exceed ranges over 3000 openly and over 6-7k covertly( to yank knowledge) and still they couldnt sanction us, we made tactical battefield nukes and airlaucnhed nukes and still they could sanction or isolate us, we made sea laucned nukes recently completing our nuclear triad and still they cant sanction us, we made mirv missles recently and still they couldnt sanction us while iran got isolated from the world just due to intentions of developing nukes, what does that tell u?, iran doesnt understand diplomacy, ur leaders talk hot and big and when the time comes u cant act and in the process damage ur country immensley just for feel good and idle talk. Pakistan never talks big, we let our actions speak and they speak the loudest among the ummah, there is no denying that, we know when and how to choose our allies.
 
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Dare you mention Pakistan in ur list?, talk about ur ghairat, not ours, if u didnt have the balls to stand up to the US, dont smear that on Pakistan, when it was our time we said "we will eat grass but will do atomic tests", we stood up to the entire world when it mattered and hence are the sixth largest and one and only atomic power of the muslim world, we secured our future long a go n hence the most the west can do against us is yell or try to launch proxy groups while we openly spank their asses in afghanistan, nothing they can do about it but yell, so again we Pakistanis have ghariat, where is ur ghairat is the real question here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drone_strikes_in_Pakistan

lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamsi_Airfield

lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Operation_Neptune_Spear

lol

Honestly, I don't give a ****. Everyone else in that list is being screwed but thinks they are extremely independent and macho.
 

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