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Your logic regarding how many universities per country has no validity...if you make it to their ranking system that means a university has met the minimum criteria to be there...that is why some Islamic countries do not even make it to the ranking system.
Actually, I am not saying Iran is not doing good. I am saying the cost is too high.
If we want to compare countries, we can compare Iran with China or The US considering the number of universities. comparing Iran with Turkey is does not seem right.
 

Will these require a driving licence? In Belgium and France, some of these tiny electric cars can be driven without any form of licence (if they are limited to a certain top speed and engine power) - you don't even need to do a road rules test, nothing. Even teenagers are allowed. Not sure if such rules should apply in Iran though.

 
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Let's twist the numbers and look at them from another angle. how many universities does each country have?
Iran: we have some 2,500 universities! source: https://www.isna.ir/news/97030804268/
Turkey: They have some 200 universities. source: https://www.yok.gov.tr/Documents/Yayinlar/Yayinlarimiz/2019/Higher_Education_in_Turkey_2019_en.pdf

in other words, we needed 12.5 times more universities to match their output. talk about results now...

IMO, we only need around 100-150 universities in Iran. the rest of them are basically useless...

P.s. If you have better statistics, please share them! I would love to be proven wrong.
Yes, but the output of universities like PNU, Elmi-Karbordi or private universities is close to zero and they were not created for doing research or publishing papers either. They are mostly for vocational training, not research.
Also, they are not funded by the government and their students pay money for enrollment. So, I do not see why their output matters as they are not receiving a budget from the government.
In reality, Iran has only 141 public universities that are funded by the government and they are responsible for the majority of our scientific output (maybe over 90%). The remaining 10% is probably by Azad University. Talk about results now.

So, your point is invalid.
Actually, I am not saying Iran is not doing good. I am saying the cost is too high.
If we want to compare countries, we can compare Iran with China or The US considering the number of universities. comparing Iran with Turkey is does not seem right.
It has nothing to do with "cost". The cost is relevant only for public universities in Iran, which happen to be only 141 universities.
 
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Javad Owji told a budget planning meeting on Sunday that because of lack of investments in the past, the country is now faced with a stark choice – invest $160 in its oil and gas sector or face declining output and eventually imports of fossil fuels.

 

Speaking of EV, looks like Elon is a Trump guy as I expected. Similar egos though.

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Unless Iran plans production of lithium ion cells or even better solid state battery cells then Iran’s EV trend is a bit self defeating as they would have to import large amount of lithium ion cells from world leader Panasonic in order to power their cars. Hardly a “resistance economy” in the long run tho it would reduce reliance on fossil fuels and help with pollution.

Also very disappointed in Iran’s EV policies. People want to blame Rouhani or Raisi or Ahmadinejad, but it’s the entire Republic that is inept at adopting game changing economic policies. It’s paralyzed to do anything outside of the norm. Compare this to the one party China policy that is FORCING its industry every step of the way to push the envelope in every field.

Iranians are smart, intelligent, and hardworking. If not as much as Chinese then close to it. But it seems from a business standpoint many just want to “skate on by” and “cut corners”.

No reason Iran’s entire government vehicle and taxis shouldn’t have been EV by now or by 2025. No reason to not adopt incentivized policies for Iranian car manufactures to build EVs. If car manufactures wouldn’t do it then work with the defense industry to develop electric powered trucks (biggest vehicle polluters in Iran) as well as cars.

Then just sit back and see how fast Iranian car manufactures change their tune. It was Tesla that pushed the major auto car makers to switch to the EV sooner than scheduled.

Raisi says car manufactures should learn from defense industry, but he forgets that Iran’s government has massive power to force industry to adopt policies. Just take a look at what China forces or expects its domestic companies to do.
 
Unless Iran plans production of lithium ion cells or even better solid state battery cells then Iran’s EV trend is a bit self defeating as they would have to import large amount of lithium ion cells from world leader Panasonic in order to power their cars. Hardly a “resistance economy” in the long run tho it would reduce reliance on fossil fuels and help with pollution.

Also very disappointed in Iran’s EV policies. People want to blame Rouhani or Raisi or Ahmadinejad, but it’s the entire Republic that is inept at adopting game changing economic policies. It’s paralyzed to do anything outside of the norm. Compare this to the one party China policy that is FORCING its industry every step of the way to push the envelope in every field.

Iranians are smart, intelligent, and hardworking. If not as much as Chinese then close to it. But it seems from a business standpoint many just want to “skate on by” and “cut corners”.

No reason Iran’s entire government vehicle and taxis shouldn’t have been EV by now or by 2025. No reason to not adopt incentivized policies for Iranian car manufactures to build EVs. If car manufactures wouldn’t do it then work with the defense industry to develop electric powered trucks (biggest vehicle polluters in Iran) as well as cars.

Then just sit back and see how fast Iranian car manufactures change their tune. It was Tesla that pushed the major auto car makers to switch to the EV sooner than scheduled.

Raisi says car manufactures should learn from defense industry, but he forgets that Iran’s government has massive power to force industry to adopt policies. Just take a look at what China forces or expects its domestic companies to do.

Iranian strategy with huge gas reserve does not have to be as aggressive as China.

Car industry is not exactly missile industry. Otherwise Russia would be leading car exporter.

It will develope hopefully on time:



Chinese are hard working like an ant colony. Iranians are not hard working as much but they are smart, brave, artistic, altruistic and a bit nagging. I hope they do the job.
 
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Iranian strategy with huge gas reserve does not have to be as aggressive as China.

Car industry os not exactly missile industry. Otherwise Russia would be leading car exporter.

It will develope hopefully on time:


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First not sure what EV cars have to do with natural gas since Iran’s CNG operated vehicles are more add on kits than full fledged attempts at mass producing CNG only operated vehicles.

Just because Iran has large natural gas does not in any way reduce the need to switch to EV and away from oil.

Second of all China is SWIMMING in money. They will be 2-3x US economy in the future. It’s crypto digital yuan is already ready for foreign use. Physical Credit cards and debit cards are a thing of the past as most people use their phones to pay for things.

So if anyone needs to be aggressive it’s Iran. China can afford to be lazy and slow as it is so far ahead of the world in leading technologies that it’s set to dominate the landscape. Iran cannot as it’s so far behind in areas that the sanctions excuse can no longer be used as justification.

Iran’s gas industry is desperate need of investment and Qatar has been sucking out tons of gas from the shared gas field for years while Iran is lagging severely behind.

When it comes to it’s oil industry....even worse state. But rah rah who needs JCPOA right? Well unless Iran plans to unveil that it has found a mineral that is literally worth more than gold and only found in iran.... it will need foreign investment just to MAINTAIN its current energy opportunity let alone expand.

So far since the supposed $400B Chinese deal, we have yet to see any major benefits or large scale investment by Chinese. So the East is as useless as the West in the current state.
 

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I posted this long before you. They want their extra unfair share of the budget. Probably some greed and some corruption too.

Never forget that Peugeot 206 got a budget of 200 million dollar to add a Trunk to it.
Can you believe it? That is probably more than the budget for Kowsar plane.

That is pure inept, effed up, greedy nature of some components of this system.

@TheImmortal

Secondly
It does matter what your resources are before making a plan.
A plan for Iran should be different.
 
I was about to react as well. To begin with, Entekhab, a typical reformist and thereby strongly russophobic and US-apologetic newspaper does not exactly inspire confidence now does it...? Then, who is the person from the "CNG Union Association" and what is that body supposed to represent exactly? Absent a statement by the administration, any background information on that gentleman, political affiliations etc? Because it'd run counter to 42 years of ingrained IR practice to compromise sovereign rights in any shape or form. If put under tremendous adverse pressure by powerful hostile entities, the IR would at worst settle for some give and take sort of agreement. Now of course if liberals are in charge, they'd be willing to sell the country out, but thank goodness these types are being steadily kept in check by IRGC and Leadership. Next point, what territorial waters is the source referring to? Those parts which Iran claimed sovereignty upon, but recognition of which was unanimously rejected by the other four littoral states of the Caspian? Or the token portion which everybody agrees should belong to Iran? I do suspect some disingenuous wordplay at this point. So until we see a proper, precise an exhaustive clarification from an authoritative source, this is not to be taken seriously in my opinion. What is more, how childish is the consideration that Russia would be overly bent on prohibiting Iran to exploit its Caspian reserves, only to come out on top in terms "exploitable" gas reserves in international statistics, knowing that we're talking about a mere 0.3% of global reserves here...? And knowing that common statistics generally refer to overall reserves, not to effectively exploited gas fields. So this reasoning sounds quite nonsensical. Last but not least, what does the source mean by "ghablan" - under the Rohani administration perhaps?!

All this said, even if the reporting were flawlessly factual (which it most probably isn't), to even envisage comparing the most independent government in the world that is the Islamic Republic with a classic vassal state ie the shah regime in terms of the extent of exercized sovereignty and protection of Iran's interests against predatory imperial agendas is baseless. The extreme majority of Iran's natural gas reserves are located in the Persian Gulf, and Iran is doing whatever it wishes with them. Same goes for the oil. There's strictly no comparison with pre-Revolutionary conditions, for although these resources remained nationalized property of Iran back in the day, it was foreign corporations which were endowed with exclusive distribution rights. Let us not even get into more disturbing and telling aspects, such as that any token financial assistance the shah wished to grant to the Palestinian Resistance or to non-zionist Lebanese groups, he had to inform his Court Minister 'Alam in the bathroom - literally - of his palace, because his entire dwellings had been sprinkled with listening devices by the intelligence services of his foreign patrons, as clearly mentioned in 'Alam's memoirs... and this is while the Court Minister in question was widely considered to be on British payroll himself! Oh, and it was not some spies acting in a contrarian and fully covert manner which had planted said devices into the shah's palatial premises, but this was done with de facto approval of the country's head of state who was glad to be acting as a chief client and regional enforcer for these same extra-regional imperial powers. The capitulation treaty, which legally enabled US citizens to murder Iranian men, women, children, elderly and even newborns without having to fear even the slightest prosecution at the hands of the Iranian judiciary, is probably best not delved into, as this would be too painful a reminder to expand upon I believe. So I'd say fervent personal dislike for the Islamic Republic ought never push one to regress to reformist media and/or foreign mouthpiece levels of historic and factual extrapolation.

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First the author of the article would need to explain what it is they're talking about and what administration is supposed to have reached such an agreement with Russia. If it's Rohani's, then both it and the Khatami cabinet were liberal ones.
More likely ahmadi . Roohani completely forgo exploring Caspian sea basin for oil and Gas. And instead was busy wedding Iran share of the sea proper and resources to other have you forget that.
 
Yes, but the output of universities like PNU, Elmi-Karbordi or private universities is close to zero and they were not created for doing research or publishing papers either. They are mostly for vocational training, not research.
Also, they are not funded by the government and their students pay money for enrollment. So, I do not see why their output matters as they are not receiving a budget from the government.
In reality, Iran has only 141 public universities that are funded by the government and they are responsible for the majority of our scientific output (maybe over 90%). The remaining 10% is probably by Azad University. Talk about results now.

So, your point is invalid.

It has nothing to do with "cost". The cost is relevant only for public universities in Iran, which happen to be only 141 universities.

It does have a lot to do with costs. The Government is not the People after all. every single penny spent on universities could be spent somewhere else. even sth like Skillshare or Coursera would be way better than these universities. The only organizations I can stand behind is Fani & herfei type organizations.
 
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