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India to Asean: We will not intervene in China dispute

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NEW DELHI—Southeast Asian countries on Thursday urged India to intervene to help resolve bitter territorial disputes with China in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), saying it was “crucial” to maintaining peace and stability.

But India’s foreign minister insisted the territorial disputes between China and Southeast Asian nations did not require India’s intervention. :tdown:

The 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) called on India—which vowed to promote cooperation on trade and maritime security with the countries—to take a more decisive stance in the region.

Vietnamese Premier Nguyen Tan Dung asked for New Delhi’s direct intervention over West Philippine Sea territorial disputes while Burmese President Thein Sein said India’s role was “crucial” to ensuring peace and stability in the region.

China is in an increasingly angry dispute with several of its neighbors over claims to parts of the oil- and gas-rich sea. It claims almost of the whole sea, including waters close to the shores of its neighbors. These areas also include major sea-lanes through which nearly half of global trade passes.

China’s claim is contested by the Philippines as well as Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam, which have overlapping claims to some or all of those same areas.

Insisting on its claim, China has issued a new passport with a map that shows all parts of the sea that it says are its territory, including parts disputed by its Southeast Asian rivals.

The Philippines and Vietnam protested the new passport and refused to put their stamps on it, while India issued a new passport with a map showing border territory it is disputing with China.

New border rules

Three weeks ago, China’s southern Hainan province announced new regulations that would authorize Chinese border patrols to board, search and expel foreign ships that would enter what China considered its territorial waters.

It is believed that the new rules, which will come into force on Jan. 1, have Beijing’s approval, and Asean members the Philippines and Vietnam are worried Chinese action according to those rules could lead to clashes in the sea.

Wu Sichun, head of the Hainan foreign affairs office, said in early December that the new rules were partly a response to an increase in Vietnamese fishing boats operating around the Paracel Islands, which both countries claim.

Vietnam condemned China’s claims as a serious violation of its sovereignty after saying it was setting up patrols to protect its fisheries and accusing Chinese boats of sabotaging a Vietnamese survey vessel in the disputed sea.

The Vietnamese foreign ministry said the sabotage and the new Chinese maritime rules “complicated” the territorial dispute between the two countries.

China, the Vietnamese foreign ministry said, must respect Vietnam’s sovereignty and “immediately stop all this wrong actions and make sure they are not repeated.”

Standoff

The Philippines remains in a standoff with China at the Panatag Shoal (Scarborough Shoal), a resource-rich reef within the Philippine exclusive economic zone.

Triggered by Chinese poaching on the reef, the standoff between Philippine and Chinese maritime law enforcement vessels began in early April and ended in mid-June when stormy weather forced President Aquino to order Manila’s ships home.

But Mr. Aquino promised to send the ships back unless the Chinese vessels withdrew from the shoal.

They never did. The Philippine Coast Guard is waiting for orders to deploy from Malacañang.

US wants clarification

The United States is seeking clarification on the new Chinese border rules. US Ambassador to China Gary Locke told Reuters in early December that the new rules were unclear as their extent and purpose.

“The US government very much wants clarification of what these rules mean, how they will be interpreted by the Hainan government and marine enforcement agencies and the purpose of these rules,” Locke said.

The United States has taken a neutral stand on the territorial disputes between China and its allies in Southeast Asia. But Washington has made it clear that it has “national interest” in freedom of navigation in the disputed seas.

The disputed waters link India to Southeast Asia and the Pacific, but India already has its own border dispute with China and does not seem keen about concerning itself with the territorial disputes between China and Southeast Asian nations.

India’s foreign minister, Salman Khurshid, said the West Philippine Sea disputes did not require his country’s intervention.

“Doing something about it includes not doing something about it,” Khurshid said, adding that issues of sovereignty “need to be resolved between the countries concerned.” :hitwall:

“China knows it, India knows it that there is too much to lose if we don’t overcome issues from time to time,” he said.

Broadening trade

Relations between India and China are often prickly and marked by mutual distrust—a legacy of a brief border war in 1962—but they are trying to broaden trade ties despite political tensions.

China’s trade with Asean countries is far greater than India’s, but 20 years after the latter launched a “Look East” policy New Delhi’s trade with Southeast Asian nations is increasing.

Trade between the two was $80 billion last year compared with $47 billion in 2008.

India to Asean: We will not intervene in China dispute | Inquirer Global Nation
 
“need to be resolved between the countries concerned.”


this point is good. but this is the time we want to enter into the international politics to show us as a emerging global power. but this foreign min. speech is irritating and still i cant digest myself to think this useless man as my countries foreign minister.
 
idk where our foreign policy is heading :hitwall:

3rd rated khurshid gifted seat of FM by bar tender
 
Actually we don't have any take on SCS, all we can do it take sides if there is any active conflict by supplying arms and ammunition.
 
Recently India said two things:

China and Asean countries should resolve their difference among themselves.

India believes in freedom of navigation and India would protect its assets in SCS.

in summary,

if China solves dispute peacefully with ASEAN we have no issues, but if China uses force to claim whole SCS (which means not allowing India access to SCS and not allowing to exploit resources there) then India would intervene and protect its assest in SCS..

So indirectly it means, China should solve issue peacefully with ASEAN (we don't want to enter or interfere in that negotiations) but we will intervene if China uses force.
 
Its a smart move by India, if the benefits of India in this area is ensured, why join in it without getting anything ? Focus on Indian ocean is a better option for Indians.
 
idk where our foreign policy is heading :hitwall:

3rd rated khurshid gifted seat of FM by bar tender

He said Indian navy will protect its own interests in the SCS (oil exploration blocks) region and the disputes should be solved according to UNCLOS. which is the right way to move.

Let the countries around SCS take their initiative to build an anti china alliance, then the heavy weights like US and India will move in.

But India is open to any defense agreements with SCS region countries :cheers:
 
A good move actually. Why will India will wish a direct intervention in SCS wen we have no stakes?
However if Chinese attack our rigs or board the ships passing through SCS, i believe the reactions in diplomatic circles will be great and result in direct support of countries against China, which of course i dont wish to happen !!!

Dialogue is the way forward
 
But India’s foreign minister insisted the territorial disputes between China and Southeast Asian nations did not require India’s intervention.

We will not intervene in territorial disputes. We are in South China sea for economic reasons and we will continue to search oil and gas there. :)

Its a smart move by India, if the benefits of India in this area is ensured, why join in it without getting anything ? Focus on Indian ocean is a better option for Indians.


We are in South China sea for commercial reasons and we will remain there for that. Territorial disputes are to be solved by the parties involved.
 
guess, some framework is being prepared to resolve Indo-Chini border issues!
 
Saner minds prevail in India. People shouldn't punch above their weight and accept reality and play by the rules.

Indian foreign minister should now say , and I am sure he will say: "we welcome china's peaceful rise in the IOR and greater ASIA. Chinese can help India & her neighbors to solve bilateral disputes. Indians look up to china as a much more responsible power that stabilizes ASIA and the region."

Its time India accepts reality just like how Mexico and canada accepted US as the super power in Latin america and subsequently the whole world. China can help India prosper along with the whole of asia. :)
 
Saner minds prevail in India. People shouldn't punch above their weight and accept reality and play by the rules.

Indian foreign minister should now say , and I am sure he will say: "we welcome china's peaceful rise in the IOR and greater ASIA. Chinese can help India & her neighbors to solve bilateral disputes. Indians look up to china as a much more responsible power that stabilizes ASIA and the region."

China and peace are two different things ... all neighbors of China know that, you are lucky that China is not your neighbor otherwise :lol:


Its time India accepts reality just like how Mexico and canada accepted US as the super power in Latin america and subsequently the whole world. :)

Just show were your ***** country stand if China==US and India==Canada ??
 
China and peace are two different things ... all neighbors of China know that, you are lucky that China is not your neighbor otherwise :lol:

Can not be worse than India in a trillion years.:)


Just show were your ***** country stand if China==US and India==Canada ??

U don't have to worry about my country. I didn't even give India the title of canada yet, that would be too good for U. We can be mexico, PAK and SL can be japan & S.korea respectively. Chinese are undoubtedly the next super power of this world. Beg the chinese so that they consider U as canada at the very least, otherwise they may not even consider you as Nicaragua. :rolleyes:
 
We do not indulge others disputes. Let them clear it among. Does not mean that we wothdraw from South china sea. We are there as per the international law for explorations. But not into side anybody.
 

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