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What is wrong with these?
Especially with missiles? What is hanging in flux
Again don't do BS give FACTS
India joins Ballistic Missile Defence Club
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What is wrong with these?
Especially with missiles? What is hanging in flux
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Press TV - Russia losing defense market in India
Russia losing defense market in India
Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:21:46 GMT
India has progressed far enough the air defense field and currently is not in need of Russian assistance, says a Russian arms trader.
On Monday, the Russian arms trading company Rosoboronexport acknowledged India's achievements in the field adding that it was not going to supply the country with air defense systems in the near future, ITAR-TASS reported.
"India has begun to develop air defense according to scientific principles of other countries, and has progressed far in this field," said deputy director general of the company Viktor Komardin. "Simple purchases no longer suit them,” he added.
The maximum range of Russian arms exports is carried out through the company which represents Moscow in the international market. Indian and Southeast Asian demand accounts for half of the orders Rosoboronexport receives.
The company, however, says it would not cease to make offers to New Delhi.
To keep up the long-standing bilateral strategic and military-technical cooperation, India also reportedly plans to order the advanced MiG-35 fighter aircraft which Russia plans to exhibit in the upcoming airshow in Bangalore Aero India-2009.
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Russia losing defense market in India
Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:21:46 GMT
India has progressed far enough the air defense field and currently is not in need of Russian assistance, says a Russian arms trader.
On Monday, the Russian arms trading company Rosoboronexport acknowledged India's achievements in the field adding that it was not going to supply the country with air defense systems in the near future, ITAR-TASS reported.
"India has begun to develop air defense according to scientific principles of other countries, and has progressed far in this field," said deputy director general of the company Viktor Komardin. "Simple purchases no longer suit them,” he added.
The maximum range of Russian arms exports is carried out through the company which represents Moscow in the international market. Indian and Southeast Asian demand accounts for half of the orders Rosoboronexport receives.
The company, however, says it would not cease to make offers to New Delhi.
To keep up the long-standing bilateral strategic and military-technical cooperation, India also reportedly plans to order the advanced MiG-35 fighter aircraft which Russia plans to exhibit in the upcoming airshow in Bangalore Aero India-2009.
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Army not to induct BrahMos without further trials
New Delhi (PTI): After its failure last month, Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor has said his force would prefer further trials of BrahMos missile to be sure of the weapon's success, rather than hurrying up induction.
"No," he said when asked if the army would induct BrahMos' new vertical-launch version once it was ready.
"We (the Army) are consumers here. We will like to go through further trials to prove its success. We will congratulate them whenever the missiles passes the test. It is wrong to waste public money," General Kapoor told PTI in an interview.
The 290-km range supersonic cruise missile, developed jointly by India and Russia under a joint venture, failed to hit its intended target during tests in the Pokhran ranges in Rajasthan desert last month.
Asked if the DRDO had complaints over the Army "leaking" information on the failed BrahMos test, Kapoor clarified that the army had reservations over DRDO's initial claim that the missile trial was a success.
He said he was present during the missile testing in Rajasthan recently and watched the test-firing from about a kilometre away. The target was 53 kilometres away from the missile launch site, he said.
Army not to induct BrahMos without further trials
New Delhi (PTI): After its failure last month, Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor has said his force would prefer further trials of BrahMos missile to be sure of the weapon's success, rather than hurrying up induction.
"No," he said when asked if the army would induct BrahMos' new vertical-launch version once it was ready.
"We (the Army) are consumers here. We will like to go through further trials to prove its success. We will congratulate them whenever the missiles passes the test. It is wrong to waste public money," General Kapoor told PTI in an interview.
The 290-km range supersonic cruise missile, developed jointly by India and Russia under a joint venture, failed to hit its intended target during tests in the Pokhran ranges in Rajasthan desert last month.
Asked if the DRDO had complaints over the Army "leaking" information on the failed BrahMos test, Kapoor clarified that the army had reservations over DRDO's initial claim that the missile trial was a success.
He said he was present during the missile testing in Rajasthan recently and watched the test-firing from about a kilometre away. The target was 53 kilometres away from the missile launch site, he said.
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domain-b.com : AeroIndia 2009: DRDO has developed extreme technologies, says Dr Prahlad
DRDO has developed extreme technologies, says Dr Prahlad news
In a wide ranging,comprehensive interview on DRDO's capabilties and development programme, Dr Prahalad, chief controller R&D (SI), points out that the gap between users needs and DRDO's capabilities is reducing. The organisation is now fully capable of working out a road map with the army, navy and air force to develop weapon systems needed over the next 5-7 years.
Dr Prahalad,
Distinguished scientist and chief controller, R&D (SI), DRDO
1. Could you speak about the Akash and Nag missiles? How do they fare with comparable technologies and how far away are they from induction?
The Akash and Nag missiles were part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme begun in 1984 under Dr Abdul Kalam as the chairman. We then took a purposeful decision that Akash and Nag would be the most complex and sophisticated missile systems in the IGMDP.
So, it was given the maximum time also, as compared to Prithvi, Trishul and Agni and others. Akash and Nag were given nearly 15 years. So, we knew at that time it was a very complex system and taking up the challenge we began developing these two systems.
In case of Akash, it has been uniquely configured and customised for our own Indian Army and air force. During the initial discussions with the army and the air force, they gave some requirements like it should be mobile, it should have a 30 km range, a very effective high kill probability, it should be integrated with the automatic command and control system, it cannot be manually operated, should have multiple target handling capability, which means that several targets could be engaged with several missiles simultaneously.
In most missile systems you have boost and coast – that is you boost the missile for some time and allow it to coast, or, boost, sustain and coast. The requirement here, however, was continuous thrust, or, all the way thrust. Once you start coasting, the maneuverability of the missile comes down. This was not acceptable to the services. They felt it should be continuously maneuverable till it intercepts the target, which meant the requirement was that the power/thrust had to be continuously on.
These were a unique set of requirements –such a missile doesn't exist anywhere in the world and it meant that we had to uniquely configure the missiles. That's how Akash was realised, We took 5 years more than what we promised to the army and air force, but when tested in the last development phase the results were 9/9 –that is out of the 9 missiles tested all them met the guidance and accuracy control requirements. Based on these tests the Indian Air Force has placed orders for 2 squadrons and the army is expected to follow suit.
Bharat Electronics will be the nodal production agency along with Bharat Dynamics and there will be at least 40 industries from the public and private sectors that will be involved with the manufacture of these missiles in large numbers.
So, this is one story and we expect that based on the expenditure of Rs600 crore that we have invested in the Akash missile, business worth about Rs7,000 crore should result for radars, missiles, launchers and control systems all put together within the next 5 years.
So, this is the story for Akash.
Coming to Nag, similarly, this missile is meant for the army, which wanted a missile with a 4-km range and fire-and-forget capability. That means we launch the missile from a tank and leave the place - this is also called the shoot-and-scoot technique. The Nag was specifically designed with a fire-and-forget capability.
The missile has what is called a tandem warhead. The warhead will have two stages – in the first stage the missile will make a hole in an enemy tank and in the second stage it will go inside and blow it up. This is a very special technology and we had to perfect it.
So this is the Nag- a tandem warhead, 4-km, tank-mounted, fire-and-forget, and very accurate, missile.
The last flight test has been successfully completed in day and night desert conditions in short range and long range test firings and we expect the army to place an order over the next couple of months.
2. The 'Shaurya' was a surprise development – where does it fit into the Indian missile spectrum?
If you look at our long-range strategic missiles you know we have Prithvi and Agni for ballistic or near-ballistic systems. Prithvi is a liquid fuel system and Agni is a solid fuel system.
Now the Agni has certain mobility, certain freedom to move from place to place. The Prithvi has its own certain requirements - it requires preparation time because of its liquid engines.
So we had to configure a unique third missile called 'Shaurya' which can be canisterised. Once sealed in a canister, it can be taken to any place giving it great tactical and operational advantage. It canbe deployed anywhere - in hilly terrain, desert etc. It is a relatively light, highly mobile, solid propellant fuelled missile. There is no preparation required.
So it has its own USP - and as per the requirement of the services we will be taking up the production of Shaurya.
3. The country's BMD technology would appear to be moving apace – could you dwell on aspects of the technologies that are being brought into play for the whole programme?
Ballistic Missile Defence or missile defence systems, are developed based on the threat perceptions as presented to us by the armed forces, which take into consideration threats from our neighbours, their plans etc. Based on these inputs we are developing certain critical technologies against ballistic missiles.
For this we need some unique technologies, such as high-speed propulsion, which can take missiles to hypersonic speeds. You need a high burning rate, solid propellants, which can take the missile quickly to high Mach number.
We need very high accuracy guidance so that the missile can even physically obliterate a hostile missile – what is called a hit-to-kill capability. For this we need not only radio gadgets but also thermal infra-red gadgets. So for this we need a combined dual-guidance –not only radar but also imaging guidance. This requires very high accuracy algorithms.
Also we need very quick reaction systems. When somebody launches a ballistic missile the time available to react to the threat is very short - a few seconds. So, the instant you know a missile has been launched you have to launch the defence system within seconds, fly at a much higher speed than the attacking missile and intercept very accurately at very high altitudes. So this requires what is known as extreme technologies. These have now been developed and we are trying to integrate these technologies and produce a weapon that can be used by the armed forces.
4. How do you look at an era of increased international cooperation in the development of technologies in the defence sector?
This is the new era of 2000+. In the 80s when we started our major system programmes like Arjun or Sonar or IGMDP or torpedo or radar, we never had the opportunity of international co-operation.
We were buying some components and making everything in-house. We built the computer from scratch from circuit boards. That was an era where we had to do everything in-house and within our industries and everything was a long drawn out and hard process.
Whereas in 2000, fortunately, the whole world has recognised our capability by seeing our LCA, main battle tank Arjun, radars, torpedoes, missiles and small arms that are in production. Our capabilities in prototyping, developing, testing and fielding our own weapons have been recognised.
So now they know that they cannot take us for granted. If they want business, they have to work together. Many countries have come forward for collaborative research and joint development. We have projects now with USA, Israel, Russia, Italy, Germany, Belarus, Brazil, France, UK among others.
In the 80s era what used to take 15 years to make we can now make in 5 years to 7 years. So, we have cut down the development time by almost 1/3rd because of the immense opportunities for international collaboration.
5. With respect to the areas of missiles could you dwell on two aspects:
b)One being the development of technology in this sector
c)The level of operationalisation that such technology has attained
Missile technologies are front-end technologies - very challenging and display characteristics such as high speed, high lethality, high maneuverability and quick reaction. So all this require the limits of technology whether you take materials, propulsion or control.
So of the technologies for this kind of technology for eg propulsion: solid propulsion, liquid propulsion and ramjet propulsion or if you take flight control systems and autocontrol systems, we need computers, electro actuation systems, lot of software intelligence for making the control system work and then we have navigation and guidance, we have to take the missile to long distances and guide it accurately to intercept the target.
When we take the warheads, each missile requires a different type of warhead Nag requires a tandem warhead, Akash requires a fragmentation warhead, Prithvi requires a runway penetration warhead.
We also have the C4I - command, control communication and intelligence integration. How do we do it? The missile is the part of network centric operation. We have to also develop guidance on how to use radar gadgets and imaging infrared technology to recognise targets using its thermal characteristics by getting a thermal picture to reach the tank and finding out its centre of gravity to hit it at the centre of the tank. This type of technology is the imaging infrared technology and you need millimeter wave technology for very accurate guidance and infrared imaging for imaging of a target.
So these technologies are required to be simultaneously developed for the missiles India has developed.
For operationalisation, these technologies go into the missiles eg: the Akash missile the ram jet propulsion is inside; the pre-fragmented warhead technology inside, very accurate radio or radar guidance is used in the missile system and auto pilot with a very powerful computer to make the missile maneuver to hit a maneuvering target, so you can out-maneuver a maneuvering target, at low, medium and high altitudes under any conditions rain, dust, summer, winter night etc.
So, these technologies get imbibed into the missile system, the ground system, the launcher system, and is integrated into the command control network. So the technology gets operationalised in the missile systems when they get fielded.
Now how we get these technologies? We have three strategies to develop: some of it is got from academic institutions. We go to the university professors, work with them on how to develop new science and technology.
Secondly, DRDO can jointly develop new technologies with industrial partners. For example, an actuation system, which we have mostly done in DRDO-industry collaboration.
Then comes foreign collaboration. Sometimes we develop technologies with foreign collaboration with our partner countries.
If none of this works, then the final strategy is in-house development within our laboratories and we have developed many technologies in-house.
So this is how we develop new technology, new science, perfect it and incorporate it into weapon systems
6. Obviously there exists 'dynamic tension' between the need to develop indigenous technologies and the need for the
services to be in a state of readiness, armed with contemporary technologies. How do you harmonise such tensions?
Fortunately this harmonisation is already taking place. Probably there was some gap in the capabilities of DRDO and the requirements of the armed forces. They require it fast and the latest to be made available. Since things were always available to them on their tables they always were bombarded with temptations to purchase but today two things are happening - arms research development and marketing has slowed down tremendously worldwide in comparison to the '80s. They are no more developing things just like that but develop it only on demand.
Secondly the armed forces have realised that a homegrown weapon system, sonar or radar etc has many advantages to them. They will be able to get life support very easily, product up-gradation, software and customisation. So, many things are possible and finally both cost of ownership, maintenance will be much lower if it is indigenously based and the things are available at your fingertips. So the armed forces are also trying to tap DRDO's capabilities to the maximum.
The gap between the user's needs and DRDO's capabilities is reducing. Today we are able to sit down with the army, navy air force to work out a road map on the kind of weapons they would need in the next 5-7 years. What new technologies they think we should develop and how to realise these technologies?
Thus we have generated 2 road maps - one for technology and the other for products. We have had extensive discussions on these even up to how they should look. For example Rustum, a medium altitude, long endurance unmanned vehicle where we have combined QRs (qualitative requirements) where the order rate is above 100 for all forces combined. When the services say that if you can develop this within the next 4 years within our requirements, at least an order of x number will be placed. The services are ready today how much they will order called MOQ (minimum order quantity).
When we have such a guarantee from the buyers, then it is easy to go the industry which can work with us to expedite the development because the industry will make the prototype, assemble it immediately and production time or realisation time will come down. Some of the industry partners are ready to fund the development cost also, even if it is 15 per cent or 20 per cent. When they fund the development cost they become the stakeholders and then responsibility increases and then it is produced according to specifications within the stipulated time and assemble and market it as well.
So, we are tying up the industry, the MOD, the three services and DRDO – we are converging, synergising, harmonising so we work together and see that the systems are developed for the good of the country, to meet our own a la carte service - customised to the taste, schedule, performance, quality, upgradation.
Plus this is also good for the health of the Indian economy as employment opportunities increase and industry capabilities increase, even drawing orders from other countries. Based on these technologies, I have observed that many of our SME and small-scale industries getting export orders.
So you see how the level of the economy goes up, the employment potential increases, our knowledge expands, university research level goes up, and our own departments of science and technology, their own understanding and knowledge goes up. So, as a country we can see an elevation of status technologically and economically.
With this harmony we see many good things happening
DRDO has developed extreme technologies, says Dr Prahlad news
In a wide ranging,comprehensive interview on DRDO's capabilties and development programme, Dr Prahalad, chief controller R&D (SI), points out that the gap between users needs and DRDO's capabilities is reducing. The organisation is now fully capable of working out a road map with the army, navy and air force to develop weapon systems needed over the next 5-7 years.
Dr Prahalad,
Distinguished scientist and chief controller, R&D (SI), DRDO
1. Could you speak about the Akash and Nag missiles? How do they fare with comparable technologies and how far away are they from induction?
The Akash and Nag missiles were part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme begun in 1984 under Dr Abdul Kalam as the chairman. We then took a purposeful decision that Akash and Nag would be the most complex and sophisticated missile systems in the IGMDP.
So, it was given the maximum time also, as compared to Prithvi, Trishul and Agni and others. Akash and Nag were given nearly 15 years. So, we knew at that time it was a very complex system and taking up the challenge we began developing these two systems.
In case of Akash, it has been uniquely configured and customised for our own Indian Army and air force. During the initial discussions with the army and the air force, they gave some requirements like it should be mobile, it should have a 30 km range, a very effective high kill probability, it should be integrated with the automatic command and control system, it cannot be manually operated, should have multiple target handling capability, which means that several targets could be engaged with several missiles simultaneously.
In most missile systems you have boost and coast – that is you boost the missile for some time and allow it to coast, or, boost, sustain and coast. The requirement here, however, was continuous thrust, or, all the way thrust. Once you start coasting, the maneuverability of the missile comes down. This was not acceptable to the services. They felt it should be continuously maneuverable till it intercepts the target, which meant the requirement was that the power/thrust had to be continuously on.
These were a unique set of requirements –such a missile doesn't exist anywhere in the world and it meant that we had to uniquely configure the missiles. That's how Akash was realised, We took 5 years more than what we promised to the army and air force, but when tested in the last development phase the results were 9/9 –that is out of the 9 missiles tested all them met the guidance and accuracy control requirements. Based on these tests the Indian Air Force has placed orders for 2 squadrons and the army is expected to follow suit.
Bharat Electronics will be the nodal production agency along with Bharat Dynamics and there will be at least 40 industries from the public and private sectors that will be involved with the manufacture of these missiles in large numbers.
So, this is one story and we expect that based on the expenditure of Rs600 crore that we have invested in the Akash missile, business worth about Rs7,000 crore should result for radars, missiles, launchers and control systems all put together within the next 5 years.
So, this is the story for Akash.
Coming to Nag, similarly, this missile is meant for the army, which wanted a missile with a 4-km range and fire-and-forget capability. That means we launch the missile from a tank and leave the place - this is also called the shoot-and-scoot technique. The Nag was specifically designed with a fire-and-forget capability.
The missile has what is called a tandem warhead. The warhead will have two stages – in the first stage the missile will make a hole in an enemy tank and in the second stage it will go inside and blow it up. This is a very special technology and we had to perfect it.
So this is the Nag- a tandem warhead, 4-km, tank-mounted, fire-and-forget, and very accurate, missile.
The last flight test has been successfully completed in day and night desert conditions in short range and long range test firings and we expect the army to place an order over the next couple of months.
2. The 'Shaurya' was a surprise development – where does it fit into the Indian missile spectrum?
If you look at our long-range strategic missiles you know we have Prithvi and Agni for ballistic or near-ballistic systems. Prithvi is a liquid fuel system and Agni is a solid fuel system.
Now the Agni has certain mobility, certain freedom to move from place to place. The Prithvi has its own certain requirements - it requires preparation time because of its liquid engines.
So we had to configure a unique third missile called 'Shaurya' which can be canisterised. Once sealed in a canister, it can be taken to any place giving it great tactical and operational advantage. It canbe deployed anywhere - in hilly terrain, desert etc. It is a relatively light, highly mobile, solid propellant fuelled missile. There is no preparation required.
So it has its own USP - and as per the requirement of the services we will be taking up the production of Shaurya.
3. The country's BMD technology would appear to be moving apace – could you dwell on aspects of the technologies that are being brought into play for the whole programme?
Ballistic Missile Defence or missile defence systems, are developed based on the threat perceptions as presented to us by the armed forces, which take into consideration threats from our neighbours, their plans etc. Based on these inputs we are developing certain critical technologies against ballistic missiles.
For this we need some unique technologies, such as high-speed propulsion, which can take missiles to hypersonic speeds. You need a high burning rate, solid propellants, which can take the missile quickly to high Mach number.
We need very high accuracy guidance so that the missile can even physically obliterate a hostile missile – what is called a hit-to-kill capability. For this we need not only radio gadgets but also thermal infra-red gadgets. So for this we need a combined dual-guidance –not only radar but also imaging guidance. This requires very high accuracy algorithms.
Also we need very quick reaction systems. When somebody launches a ballistic missile the time available to react to the threat is very short - a few seconds. So, the instant you know a missile has been launched you have to launch the defence system within seconds, fly at a much higher speed than the attacking missile and intercept very accurately at very high altitudes. So this requires what is known as extreme technologies. These have now been developed and we are trying to integrate these technologies and produce a weapon that can be used by the armed forces.
4. How do you look at an era of increased international cooperation in the development of technologies in the defence sector?
This is the new era of 2000+. In the 80s when we started our major system programmes like Arjun or Sonar or IGMDP or torpedo or radar, we never had the opportunity of international co-operation.
We were buying some components and making everything in-house. We built the computer from scratch from circuit boards. That was an era where we had to do everything in-house and within our industries and everything was a long drawn out and hard process.
Whereas in 2000, fortunately, the whole world has recognised our capability by seeing our LCA, main battle tank Arjun, radars, torpedoes, missiles and small arms that are in production. Our capabilities in prototyping, developing, testing and fielding our own weapons have been recognised.
So now they know that they cannot take us for granted. If they want business, they have to work together. Many countries have come forward for collaborative research and joint development. We have projects now with USA, Israel, Russia, Italy, Germany, Belarus, Brazil, France, UK among others.
In the 80s era what used to take 15 years to make we can now make in 5 years to 7 years. So, we have cut down the development time by almost 1/3rd because of the immense opportunities for international collaboration.
5. With respect to the areas of missiles could you dwell on two aspects:
b)One being the development of technology in this sector
c)The level of operationalisation that such technology has attained
Missile technologies are front-end technologies - very challenging and display characteristics such as high speed, high lethality, high maneuverability and quick reaction. So all this require the limits of technology whether you take materials, propulsion or control.
So of the technologies for this kind of technology for eg propulsion: solid propulsion, liquid propulsion and ramjet propulsion or if you take flight control systems and autocontrol systems, we need computers, electro actuation systems, lot of software intelligence for making the control system work and then we have navigation and guidance, we have to take the missile to long distances and guide it accurately to intercept the target.
When we take the warheads, each missile requires a different type of warhead Nag requires a tandem warhead, Akash requires a fragmentation warhead, Prithvi requires a runway penetration warhead.
We also have the C4I - command, control communication and intelligence integration. How do we do it? The missile is the part of network centric operation. We have to also develop guidance on how to use radar gadgets and imaging infrared technology to recognise targets using its thermal characteristics by getting a thermal picture to reach the tank and finding out its centre of gravity to hit it at the centre of the tank. This type of technology is the imaging infrared technology and you need millimeter wave technology for very accurate guidance and infrared imaging for imaging of a target.
So these technologies are required to be simultaneously developed for the missiles India has developed.
For operationalisation, these technologies go into the missiles eg: the Akash missile the ram jet propulsion is inside; the pre-fragmented warhead technology inside, very accurate radio or radar guidance is used in the missile system and auto pilot with a very powerful computer to make the missile maneuver to hit a maneuvering target, so you can out-maneuver a maneuvering target, at low, medium and high altitudes under any conditions rain, dust, summer, winter night etc.
So, these technologies get imbibed into the missile system, the ground system, the launcher system, and is integrated into the command control network. So the technology gets operationalised in the missile systems when they get fielded.
Now how we get these technologies? We have three strategies to develop: some of it is got from academic institutions. We go to the university professors, work with them on how to develop new science and technology.
Secondly, DRDO can jointly develop new technologies with industrial partners. For example, an actuation system, which we have mostly done in DRDO-industry collaboration.
Then comes foreign collaboration. Sometimes we develop technologies with foreign collaboration with our partner countries.
If none of this works, then the final strategy is in-house development within our laboratories and we have developed many technologies in-house.
So this is how we develop new technology, new science, perfect it and incorporate it into weapon systems
6. Obviously there exists 'dynamic tension' between the need to develop indigenous technologies and the need for the
services to be in a state of readiness, armed with contemporary technologies. How do you harmonise such tensions?
Fortunately this harmonisation is already taking place. Probably there was some gap in the capabilities of DRDO and the requirements of the armed forces. They require it fast and the latest to be made available. Since things were always available to them on their tables they always were bombarded with temptations to purchase but today two things are happening - arms research development and marketing has slowed down tremendously worldwide in comparison to the '80s. They are no more developing things just like that but develop it only on demand.
Secondly the armed forces have realised that a homegrown weapon system, sonar or radar etc has many advantages to them. They will be able to get life support very easily, product up-gradation, software and customisation. So, many things are possible and finally both cost of ownership, maintenance will be much lower if it is indigenously based and the things are available at your fingertips. So the armed forces are also trying to tap DRDO's capabilities to the maximum.
The gap between the user's needs and DRDO's capabilities is reducing. Today we are able to sit down with the army, navy air force to work out a road map on the kind of weapons they would need in the next 5-7 years. What new technologies they think we should develop and how to realise these technologies?
Thus we have generated 2 road maps - one for technology and the other for products. We have had extensive discussions on these even up to how they should look. For example Rustum, a medium altitude, long endurance unmanned vehicle where we have combined QRs (qualitative requirements) where the order rate is above 100 for all forces combined. When the services say that if you can develop this within the next 4 years within our requirements, at least an order of x number will be placed. The services are ready today how much they will order called MOQ (minimum order quantity).
When we have such a guarantee from the buyers, then it is easy to go the industry which can work with us to expedite the development because the industry will make the prototype, assemble it immediately and production time or realisation time will come down. Some of the industry partners are ready to fund the development cost also, even if it is 15 per cent or 20 per cent. When they fund the development cost they become the stakeholders and then responsibility increases and then it is produced according to specifications within the stipulated time and assemble and market it as well.
So, we are tying up the industry, the MOD, the three services and DRDO – we are converging, synergising, harmonising so we work together and see that the systems are developed for the good of the country, to meet our own a la carte service - customised to the taste, schedule, performance, quality, upgradation.
Plus this is also good for the health of the Indian economy as employment opportunities increase and industry capabilities increase, even drawing orders from other countries. Based on these technologies, I have observed that many of our SME and small-scale industries getting export orders.
So you see how the level of the economy goes up, the employment potential increases, our knowledge expands, university research level goes up, and our own departments of science and technology, their own understanding and knowledge goes up. So, as a country we can see an elevation of status technologically and economically.
With this harmony we see many good things happening
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Next Brahmos test on 20th Feb. Hold your horses till then.
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BrahMos hums volume mantra for success- Engineering-Ind'l Goods / Svs-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times
BrahMos hums volume mantra for success
9 Feb 2009, 1805 hrs IST, ET Bureau
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Indo-Russian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace which has a production base here for supply of critical components to the space and defence industries, will focus on volumes rather than margins as it embarks on its ambitious growth plans.
“It is our policy to satisfy our clients and work for the national good by doing volume business rather than focus on the margin”, BrahMos CEO and managing director A Sivathanu Pillai said here, pointing to the analogy of WalMart, too, being a success story based on large volumes and thin margins.
The second phase of expansion of BrahMos’ Thiruvananthapuram facility is being launched on Tuesday with the setting up of the missile integration complex. The facility here, which had a turnover of Rs 17 crore in 2007-08 is projected to end this fiscal with a top line of Rs 26 crore.
BrahMos presently has the ISRO, the DRDO and the Atomic Energy Commission as its chief clients, but in future a significant chunk of the revenues could come from the missile programmes. Mr Pillai said BrahMos was supplying the highly sophisticated robotic arm for use at the Bhaba Atomic Research Centre.
BrahMos is also working on its supersonic cruise missile which is already the world’s fastest at speeds of 2.8 mach. “We can’t rest simply because we have achieved something; others can overtake us”, Mr Pillai said, adding that his team was also working on air-to-surface missiles.
Referring to reports of a recent test of BrahMos missile being a `failure’, Mr Pillai said it was wrong to call it so, stating that the latest round of tests involved “complicated target engagement”, and that the missile did not match certain parameters owing to “software glitches”.
In the longer term, the projected annual turnover for BrahMos Trivandrum is placed at Rs 500 crore within three years and Rs 1,000 crore in five years.
BrahMos hums volume mantra for success
9 Feb 2009, 1805 hrs IST, ET Bureau
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Indo-Russian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace which has a production base here for supply of critical components to the space and defence industries, will focus on volumes rather than margins as it embarks on its ambitious growth plans.
“It is our policy to satisfy our clients and work for the national good by doing volume business rather than focus on the margin”, BrahMos CEO and managing director A Sivathanu Pillai said here, pointing to the analogy of WalMart, too, being a success story based on large volumes and thin margins.
The second phase of expansion of BrahMos’ Thiruvananthapuram facility is being launched on Tuesday with the setting up of the missile integration complex. The facility here, which had a turnover of Rs 17 crore in 2007-08 is projected to end this fiscal with a top line of Rs 26 crore.
BrahMos presently has the ISRO, the DRDO and the Atomic Energy Commission as its chief clients, but in future a significant chunk of the revenues could come from the missile programmes. Mr Pillai said BrahMos was supplying the highly sophisticated robotic arm for use at the Bhaba Atomic Research Centre.
BrahMos is also working on its supersonic cruise missile which is already the world’s fastest at speeds of 2.8 mach. “We can’t rest simply because we have achieved something; others can overtake us”, Mr Pillai said, adding that his team was also working on air-to-surface missiles.
Referring to reports of a recent test of BrahMos missile being a `failure’, Mr Pillai said it was wrong to call it so, stating that the latest round of tests involved “complicated target engagement”, and that the missile did not match certain parameters owing to “software glitches”.
In the longer term, the projected annual turnover for BrahMos Trivandrum is placed at Rs 500 crore within three years and Rs 1,000 crore in five years.
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'BrahMos failure was due to software glitch'
M.G. Radhakrishnan
Thiruvanathapuram, February 9, 2009
The test failure of BrahMos, India's advanced supersonic cruise missile on January 21 was due to a software error, said A. Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD, BrahMos Aerospace, an Indo-Russian joint venture project.
This was the first full test launch at Pokhran field firing range of a more advanced version of world's fastest surface-to-surface cruise missile which was intended to be inducted by Indian Army as precision-strike weapon.
Initially the test was claimed to have been a success by the army which later admitted it was a failure. The block-II test was pertained to have more complex and sophisticated target engagement according to Pillai, who is also chief conductor (R&D), DRDO and also the chairman of the BrahMos Aerospace Thiruvananthapuram Ltd. (BATL).
"We are working on a series of endeavours to get over the software glitches and prepare for the next test which will take place as soon as possible" said Pillai. The BrahMos missile was tested successfully more than 20 times in the past and the failed test was related to a configuration with a new and more sophisticated guidance system. "We are the only country to have a supersonic cruise missile," said Pillai.
The one year-old BATL- country's second BrahMos missile production unit -is expected to touch a turnover of Rs 24 crores in 2008-2009. BATL's supply orders have gone up from Rs 28 crores in the first year to Rs 86 crores in the current year.
BATL's clients include Defense Research Development Organisation, Indian Space Research Organisation and Department of Atomic Energy. "With the opening of the nuclear energy sector we intend to play a much larger role. We have orders now to produce robotic arms used for nuclear industry," said Pillai.
BATL was inaugurated after the BrahMos Aerospace took over the Kerala state-owned Kerala Hightech Industries (Keltec) last year.
According to Pillai, the first fully integrated BrahMos missile is expected to roll out from Rs 125 crore-BATL in 2010 once the integration complex is ready. Union Defence Minister A.K. Antony is to lay foundation stone for the BrahMos integration complex at BATL on February 10.
'BrahMos failure was due to software glitch'
M.G. Radhakrishnan
Thiruvanathapuram, February 9, 2009
The test failure of BrahMos, India's advanced supersonic cruise missile on January 21 was due to a software error, said A. Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD, BrahMos Aerospace, an Indo-Russian joint venture project.
This was the first full test launch at Pokhran field firing range of a more advanced version of world's fastest surface-to-surface cruise missile which was intended to be inducted by Indian Army as precision-strike weapon.
Initially the test was claimed to have been a success by the army which later admitted it was a failure. The block-II test was pertained to have more complex and sophisticated target engagement according to Pillai, who is also chief conductor (R&D), DRDO and also the chairman of the BrahMos Aerospace Thiruvananthapuram Ltd. (BATL).
"We are working on a series of endeavours to get over the software glitches and prepare for the next test which will take place as soon as possible" said Pillai. The BrahMos missile was tested successfully more than 20 times in the past and the failed test was related to a configuration with a new and more sophisticated guidance system. "We are the only country to have a supersonic cruise missile," said Pillai.
The one year-old BATL- country's second BrahMos missile production unit -is expected to touch a turnover of Rs 24 crores in 2008-2009. BATL's supply orders have gone up from Rs 28 crores in the first year to Rs 86 crores in the current year.
BATL's clients include Defense Research Development Organisation, Indian Space Research Organisation and Department of Atomic Energy. "With the opening of the nuclear energy sector we intend to play a much larger role. We have orders now to produce robotic arms used for nuclear industry," said Pillai.
BATL was inaugurated after the BrahMos Aerospace took over the Kerala state-owned Kerala Hightech Industries (Keltec) last year.
According to Pillai, the first fully integrated BrahMos missile is expected to roll out from Rs 125 crore-BATL in 2010 once the integration complex is ready. Union Defence Minister A.K. Antony is to lay foundation stone for the BrahMos integration complex at BATL on February 10.
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India to have 5,000 km range Agni missile next year
India to have 5,000 km range Agni missile next year
Bangalore: India will develop a nuclear capable missile with a range of over 5,000 km as part of the Agni series by December next year, the country's top defence scientist has said. Revealing for the first time that the 5,000 km plus range missile, dubbed Agni 3 + will be ready for trials by 2010, DRDO Chief M Natarajan has said that work is already on to add a third engine to the Agni 3 missile that has already been successfully test fired.
With the new missile, India will be able to reach targets as far as Europe and will for the first time have the capability to reach any part of China. Till now, the 3,500 km plus Agni III has been the longest-range nuclear capable missile with India. Natarajan said that work is already on to add a third stage to the Agni III missile and he was confident that a 'technology demonstrator' will be ready by "December 2010".
India to have 5,000 km range Agni missile next year
Bangalore: India will develop a nuclear capable missile with a range of over 5,000 km as part of the Agni series by December next year, the country's top defence scientist has said. Revealing for the first time that the 5,000 km plus range missile, dubbed Agni 3 + will be ready for trials by 2010, DRDO Chief M Natarajan has said that work is already on to add a third engine to the Agni 3 missile that has already been successfully test fired.
With the new missile, India will be able to reach targets as far as Europe and will for the first time have the capability to reach any part of China. Till now, the 3,500 km plus Agni III has been the longest-range nuclear capable missile with India. Natarajan said that work is already on to add a third stage to the Agni III missile and he was confident that a 'technology demonstrator' will be ready by "December 2010".
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Deccan Herald - BrahMos to get GPS data from Russian satellites
BrahMos to get GPS data from Russian satellites
By Rasheed Kappan, DH News Service, Bangalore:
Stunned by the recent failure of its BrahMos army version missile test, the Indo-Russian JV project has decided to reduce its reliance on the established US satellites and depend more on the eight Global Navigation Satellite System (Glonass) Russian navigation satellites, to obtain critical GPS data.
The project’s support from the US navigation satellites had come under a cloud, after a preliminary test failure study revealed that the space machines up there had apparently blinked.
During the failed test, the missile’s GPS system could not link its onboard computers with hovering satellites. This eventually crippled its guidance system, and the mission objectives were not achieved. The missile had apparently performed the flight plan but missed the target. It was fitted with an advance seeker which was to home in on the target using GPS data obtained through the US satellites.
BrahMos will now concentrate on the eight Glonass satellites, although they have a shorter range than the US spacecraft. “The necessary software modification has been incorporated to take care of the eventuality of not many satellites (eight is a small compared to the 24 US satellites) available for position updates,” BrahMos Aerospace CEO and MD, A Sivathanu Pillai told Deccan Herald on the sidelines of the ongoing “Aero-India 2009” airshow here.
The BrahMos special version was fully dependent on US satellites. The Russian global positioning network is not usually used by Indian defence agencies for their strategic programmes. BrahMos is a supersonic cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land.
The missile test was part of the project’s “Block-2” version for operational deployment of the BrahMos under very stringent condition of multi-target environment. “This required a new software. The processing of various targets, manoeuvring the trajectory is a complex situation at supersonic speed. The software had to be in tune with such requirements,” explained Pillai.
Following the software modification, correction simulations were in progress. Once this was completed, the software would be cleared, he added.
BrahMos to get GPS data from Russian satellites
By Rasheed Kappan, DH News Service, Bangalore:
Stunned by the recent failure of its BrahMos army version missile test, the Indo-Russian JV project has decided to reduce its reliance on the established US satellites and depend more on the eight Global Navigation Satellite System (Glonass) Russian navigation satellites, to obtain critical GPS data.
The project’s support from the US navigation satellites had come under a cloud, after a preliminary test failure study revealed that the space machines up there had apparently blinked.
During the failed test, the missile’s GPS system could not link its onboard computers with hovering satellites. This eventually crippled its guidance system, and the mission objectives were not achieved. The missile had apparently performed the flight plan but missed the target. It was fitted with an advance seeker which was to home in on the target using GPS data obtained through the US satellites.
BrahMos will now concentrate on the eight Glonass satellites, although they have a shorter range than the US spacecraft. “The necessary software modification has been incorporated to take care of the eventuality of not many satellites (eight is a small compared to the 24 US satellites) available for position updates,” BrahMos Aerospace CEO and MD, A Sivathanu Pillai told Deccan Herald on the sidelines of the ongoing “Aero-India 2009” airshow here.
The BrahMos special version was fully dependent on US satellites. The Russian global positioning network is not usually used by Indian defence agencies for their strategic programmes. BrahMos is a supersonic cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft or land.
The missile test was part of the project’s “Block-2” version for operational deployment of the BrahMos under very stringent condition of multi-target environment. “This required a new software. The processing of various targets, manoeuvring the trajectory is a complex situation at supersonic speed. The software had to be in tune with such requirements,” explained Pillai.
Following the software modification, correction simulations were in progress. Once this was completed, the software would be cleared, he added.
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Brahmos to be a reality in five years, says Pillai
Brahmos to be a reality in five years, says Pillai
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First Published : 15 Feb 2009 03:21:00 AM IST
Last Updated : 15 Feb 2009 09:06:36 AM IST
TIRUCHY: India will develop Brahmos hyper-sonic missile, which would be faster than any supersonic missiles, in the next five years, Dr A Sivathanu Pillai, scientist and chief controller, Research & Development, DRDO, and CEO & MD of Brahmos Aerospace, said here on Saturday.
Talking to mediapersons, Pillai said India had developed the Brahmos missile in collaboration with Russia.
Brahmos will be first ready for launch from submarines. The next attempt will be to launch it from aircraft as certain modifications such as reducing the weight from 3.9 tonnes to 2.5 tonnes are neeeded. The modification work is on with Sukhoi Design Bureau. Drop trials from air will be conducted in 2010. It will be ready for induction into the Indian Air Force in 2012, he said. To suit the requirements of the Army, certain changes are needed in the software parts but the hardware could remain, he pointed out.
About 14 countries are showing interest in the purchase of Brahmos. The Government of India will shortlist them in order to maintain long term relations and strategic partnership and for security reasons, he said.
With a view to increasing production of Brahmos, a new unit has been established at a cost of Rs 125 crore in Thiruvananthapuram and production will commence in the next two years.
The other unit in Hyderabad is also being expanded. The two units together will produce at least 100 Brahmos in the next two years, he said, and added that, based on the Russian experience, India might go in for a similar partnership with other countries
Brahmos to be a reality in five years, says Pillai
Express News Service
First Published : 15 Feb 2009 03:21:00 AM IST
Last Updated : 15 Feb 2009 09:06:36 AM IST
TIRUCHY: India will develop Brahmos hyper-sonic missile, which would be faster than any supersonic missiles, in the next five years, Dr A Sivathanu Pillai, scientist and chief controller, Research & Development, DRDO, and CEO & MD of Brahmos Aerospace, said here on Saturday.
Talking to mediapersons, Pillai said India had developed the Brahmos missile in collaboration with Russia.
Brahmos will be first ready for launch from submarines. The next attempt will be to launch it from aircraft as certain modifications such as reducing the weight from 3.9 tonnes to 2.5 tonnes are neeeded. The modification work is on with Sukhoi Design Bureau. Drop trials from air will be conducted in 2010. It will be ready for induction into the Indian Air Force in 2012, he said. To suit the requirements of the Army, certain changes are needed in the software parts but the hardware could remain, he pointed out.
About 14 countries are showing interest in the purchase of Brahmos. The Government of India will shortlist them in order to maintain long term relations and strategic partnership and for security reasons, he said.
With a view to increasing production of Brahmos, a new unit has been established at a cost of Rs 125 crore in Thiruvananthapuram and production will commence in the next two years.
The other unit in Hyderabad is also being expanded. The two units together will produce at least 100 Brahmos in the next two years, he said, and added that, based on the Russian experience, India might go in for a similar partnership with other countries
ICBM test to launch India into Big Five-India-The Times of India
ICBM test to launch India into Big Five
14 Feb 2009, 0331 hrs IST, Rajat Pandit, TNN
BANGALORE: India will test its most ambitious strategic missile next year, in what will be its first step towards having potent ICBM
(intercontinental ballistic missile) capabilities, largely the preserve of the Big-5 countries till now.
With the design work on the 5,000-km-range Agni-V virtually over now, DRDO chief M Natarajan on Friday said the missile would certainly be tested before December 2010. "I am very confident we will be able to do it,'' he said, speaking on the sidelines of the Aero India-2009 show here.
The work on the nuclear-capable Agni-V basically revolves around incorporating a third composite stage in the two-stage Agni-III, along with some advanced technologies like ring laser gyroscope and accelerator for navigation and guidance.
Agni-III, with a strike range of 3,500-km to accord the capability to strike targets deep inside China, on its part, has been successfully tested only two times till now.
Defence scientists want the solid-fuelled Agni-V, for which the government has sanctioned around Rs 2,500 crore, to be a canister-launch missile system to ensure it has the requisite operational flexibility to be fired from any part of the country.
Agni-V will be slightly short of true ICBMs, which have ranges in excess of 5,500 km. "We have the capability to go in for much higher range but it is for the government to give a go-ahead. At present, we have a green signal for only Agni-V,'' said a scientist.
As reported recently by TOI, while China is several leagues ahead, India continues to lag behind even Pakistan in the missile race. At present, only the 150-to-350 km short range Prithvi missile can be said to be "fully operational'' in the armed forces. The 700-km Agni-I and 2,000-km Agni-II are still in the process of being inducted into the forces.
India, of course, hopes to gate-crash into the very exclusive club of countries like US, Russia and China, which have both ICBM as well as SLBM (submarine-launched ballistic missile) capabilities, by 2010-2011.
DRDO is working on the K-15 SLBM, having tested it from submersible pontoon launchers till now, with the aim to integrate it on the indigenous nuclear submarines being built under the secretive ATV (advanced technology vessel) project.
Though not in the range of the over 5,000-km SLBMs in the arsenal of US, Russia and China, the 750-km range K-15 will accord India with the desperately-needed third leg of the "nuclear weapon triad''. India currently depends on the Agni missiles as well as fighters like Mirage-2000s as its platforms to deliver nuclear weapons.
DRDO, of course, is also going to shortly conduct the third test of the fledgling two-tier BMD (ballistic missile defence) system, capable of tracking and destroying incoming hostile missiles both inside (endo) and outside (exo) the earth's atmosphere.
The BMD system was tested for the first time in November 2006 when an "exo-atmospheric'' hypersonic interceptor missile was used to destroy an "enemy'' Prithvi missile at an altitude of 40-50 km.
The second time, in December 2007, an "endo-atmospheric interceptor'' took on an enemy missile at an altitude of 15-km. "After the third test in a month or so, we will test the endo and exo together in an integrated mode later this year,'' said a scientist.
ICBM test to launch India into Big Five
14 Feb 2009, 0331 hrs IST, Rajat Pandit, TNN
BANGALORE: India will test its most ambitious strategic missile next year, in what will be its first step towards having potent ICBM
(intercontinental ballistic missile) capabilities, largely the preserve of the Big-5 countries till now.
With the design work on the 5,000-km-range Agni-V virtually over now, DRDO chief M Natarajan on Friday said the missile would certainly be tested before December 2010. "I am very confident we will be able to do it,'' he said, speaking on the sidelines of the Aero India-2009 show here.
The work on the nuclear-capable Agni-V basically revolves around incorporating a third composite stage in the two-stage Agni-III, along with some advanced technologies like ring laser gyroscope and accelerator for navigation and guidance.
Agni-III, with a strike range of 3,500-km to accord the capability to strike targets deep inside China, on its part, has been successfully tested only two times till now.
Defence scientists want the solid-fuelled Agni-V, for which the government has sanctioned around Rs 2,500 crore, to be a canister-launch missile system to ensure it has the requisite operational flexibility to be fired from any part of the country.
Agni-V will be slightly short of true ICBMs, which have ranges in excess of 5,500 km. "We have the capability to go in for much higher range but it is for the government to give a go-ahead. At present, we have a green signal for only Agni-V,'' said a scientist.
As reported recently by TOI, while China is several leagues ahead, India continues to lag behind even Pakistan in the missile race. At present, only the 150-to-350 km short range Prithvi missile can be said to be "fully operational'' in the armed forces. The 700-km Agni-I and 2,000-km Agni-II are still in the process of being inducted into the forces.
India, of course, hopes to gate-crash into the very exclusive club of countries like US, Russia and China, which have both ICBM as well as SLBM (submarine-launched ballistic missile) capabilities, by 2010-2011.
DRDO is working on the K-15 SLBM, having tested it from submersible pontoon launchers till now, with the aim to integrate it on the indigenous nuclear submarines being built under the secretive ATV (advanced technology vessel) project.
Though not in the range of the over 5,000-km SLBMs in the arsenal of US, Russia and China, the 750-km range K-15 will accord India with the desperately-needed third leg of the "nuclear weapon triad''. India currently depends on the Agni missiles as well as fighters like Mirage-2000s as its platforms to deliver nuclear weapons.
DRDO, of course, is also going to shortly conduct the third test of the fledgling two-tier BMD (ballistic missile defence) system, capable of tracking and destroying incoming hostile missiles both inside (endo) and outside (exo) the earth's atmosphere.
The BMD system was tested for the first time in November 2006 when an "exo-atmospheric'' hypersonic interceptor missile was used to destroy an "enemy'' Prithvi missile at an altitude of 40-50 km.
The second time, in December 2007, an "endo-atmospheric interceptor'' took on an enemy missile at an altitude of 15-km. "After the third test in a month or so, we will test the endo and exo together in an integrated mode later this year,'' said a scientist.
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Now this should be the news of the day
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Now this should be the news of the day
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