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Old news. Fake news originated in the US.

According to the OP, the alleged spying has been carried out by another rival company, XTAL Incorporated ( http://xtalinc.com ), which is another US-based company.

The matter has to be solved in the US courts. If there is indeed spying, then, perpetrators should be brought to justice.

Generally, nothing comes out from such investigations and case is dropped.

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In the meantime, I read somewhere that Huawei has opened a new experience center in Turkey this month, and, has achieved record sales.


Well court decided guilty and XTAL will be paying compensation of 223 million dollar. You are talking like it is nothing:-). People are buying because it is cheap nothing wrong with that.
 
Well court decided guilty and XTAL will be paying compensation of 223 million dollar. You are talking like it is nothing:-). People are buying because it is cheap nothing wrong with that.

Good luck with buying cheap Huawei products. And, right, nothing is wrong with that.

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The ruling is more of an agreed settlement between the two US-based companies. It is not the first time that such dispute happens. There are similar, much higher profile cases between Apple and Samsung or others. The court once ordered Samsung to pay a billion USD to Apple.

This is, basically, a business-to-business dispute of infringing on business secrets.
 
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/04/chinese-spies-steal-secrets-from-dutch-chip-maker-asml-fd/

Someone should post this news to Turkish companies and warn them, imagine using Chinese 5G, they will definitly spy.

Looks like this was yet another fake news by the neo-fascist lying Western media to smear China.

I guess Turkey knows how this works as they also experience such consolidated attacks by the Western media.

It is better to take such news with a truck-load of salt if they are originated in Western media and based on some dubious US agency.

Corporates trying to spy on each other is nothing new. Even national companies spy on each other and meet in court. Everybody does that as much as they can. As long as one is not caught, it is OK. I hope China corporation are involved in it, too. There is no fair game in international relations. But, making it look like a national conspiracy is just too low.

In the end, I am happy if Samsung spied on them (if true). Because, Samsung dropped ASML and became a customer for the Chinese company (which is true).

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ASML Was Spied On By Its 'Biggest South Korean Customer', Samsung

By Alexander Maxham
April 16, 2019

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Samsung spied on, and stole software from ASML. A company that it uses to help mass-produce its chipsets that are used in smartphones, tablets, and just about everything else that the company makes.

Originally, the Dutch press believed that it was the Chinese Government that was spying on ASML. But, ASML's CEO, Peter Wennink denied that it was China, and instead said it was "our biggest [South] Korean customer". Wennink refused to say that it was Samsung by name, and instead said that it was their biggest Korean customer a second time. Which basically points to Samsung, seeing as that is the only chip maker (that's big enough) in South Korea that ASML works with.

According to Wennink, this conclusion came from the company hiring an external company, to find out who was behind the espionage and theft of its software. The external company was able to conclude that it was not state espionage, but rather "ordinary" business espionage.

Apparently, the spies are all Chinese former employees who stole the software and created their own company to compete with ASML, Xtal. It is in China and the US.

The spying took place in 2015, and the new company, Xtal was created in 2016. That year, Samsung became a 30-percent shareholder of Xtal, then ASML lost Samsung as a customer for this particular software. The software in question is used to set up chip machines for optimum production of electronic chips. But interestingly enough, Samsung is already a customer of ASML, once again.

It's unclear how things will play out for Samsung and ASML, now that all of this information is out in the public and people are seeing Samsung's true colors. But the fact that Samsung spied on one of its partners, is not a huge surprise. It actually happens quite often

The fact that ASML came out and rejected the fact that the Chinese government spied on them, is a pretty big deal. In its press release, however, it did not point the finger at Samsung, which may be a bit surprising. However, its CEO, did indeed point it directly at Samsung, and given the fact that Samsung stopped using ASML shortly after the espionage was completed and a competitor opened up in China, it definitely makes this all smell pretty fishy.

ASML has said that once it found out it was a victim of espionage, it acted quickly. It has also stepped up its game to make sure that it does not happen again. While also admitting that corporate espionage is not something that is out of the ordinary.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/04/asml-espionage-samsung-chipsets.html
 

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Looks like this was yet another fake news by the neo-fascist lying Western media to smear China.

I guess Turkey knows how this works as they also experience such consolidated attacks by the Western media.

It is better to take such news with a truck-load of salt if they are originated in Western media and based on some dubious US agency.

Corporates trying to spy on each other is nothing new. Even national companies spy on each other and meet in court. Everybody does that as much as they can. As long as one is not caught, it is OK. I hope China corporation are involved in it, too. There is no fair game in international relations. But, making it look like a national conspiracy is just too low.

In the end, I am happy if Samsung spied on them (if true). Because, Samsung dropped ASML and became a customer for the Chinese company (which is true).

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ASML Was Spied On By Its 'Biggest South Korean Customer', Samsung

By Alexander Maxham
April 16, 2019

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Samsung spied on, and stole software from ASML. A company that it uses to help mass-produce its chipsets that are used in smartphones, tablets, and just about everything else that the company makes.

Originally, the Dutch press believed that it was the Chinese Government that was spying on ASML. But, ASML's CEO, Peter Wennink denied that it was China, and instead said it was "our biggest [South] Korean customer". Wennink refused to say that it was Samsung by name, and instead said that it was their biggest Korean customer a second time. Which basically points to Samsung, seeing as that is the only chip maker (that's big enough) in South Korea that ASML works with.

According to Wennink, this conclusion came from the company hiring an external company, to find out who was behind the espionage and theft of its software. The external company was able to conclude that it was not state espionage, but rather "ordinary" business espionage.

Apparently, the spies are all Chinese former employees who stole the software and created their own company to compete with ASML, Xtal. It is in China and the US.

The spying took place in 2015, and the new company, Xtal was created in 2016. That year, Samsung became a 30-percent shareholder of Xtal, then ASML lost Samsung as a customer for this particular software. The software in question is used to set up chip machines for optimum production of electronic chips. But interestingly enough, Samsung is already a customer of ASML, once again.

It's unclear how things will play out for Samsung and ASML, now that all of this information is out in the public and people are seeing Samsung's true colors. But the fact that Samsung spied on one of its partners, is not a huge surprise. It actually happens quite often

The fact that ASML came out and rejected the fact that the Chinese government spied on them, is a pretty big deal. In its press release, however, it did not point the finger at Samsung, which may be a bit surprising. However, its CEO, did indeed point it directly at Samsung, and given the fact that Samsung stopped using ASML shortly after the espionage was completed and a competitor opened up in China, it definitely makes this all smell pretty fishy.

ASML has said that once it found out it was a victim of espionage, it acted quickly. It has also stepped up its game to make sure that it does not happen again. While also admitting that corporate espionage is not something that is out of the ordinary.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/04/asml-espionage-samsung-chipsets.html


The Dutch ceo pointing to Samsung but he is also talking about Chinese ex employees:-). Samsung give the mission and Chinese ex employees stolen the data:-).
 
The Dutch ceo pointing to Samsung but he is also talking about Chinese ex employees:-). Samsung give the mission and Chinese ex employees stolen the data:-).

But, Samsung yesterday, rejected the accusations :devil:.
 
then nobody have stolen the data...:-)

Maybe a Turkish company. Maybe a US company. Or, maybe ASML was simply lying. Maybe it is just a misunderstanding and now they are trying to cover up the blunder.
 
Maybe a Turkish company. Maybe a US company. Or, maybe ASML was simply lying. Maybe it is just a misunderstanding and now they are trying to cover up the blunder.

Lets assume China is guilty. What is China's handling in such situations? We know they are first denying everything with a harsh and aggressive reaction if you accuse Chinese with something. But is there something like a admission of guilt, humble or regretful? The willing to reveal themself?
 
Turkey, Huawei sign protocol on smart cities

Tech giant Huawei and Informatics Valley to work together on research and development, Turkish minister says


Eda Fatma Topcu |29.03.2019

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A cooperation protocol was signed between Huawei and Turkey's technology park Informatics Valley for smart cities on Friday.

Speaking at the signing ceremony in the industrial province of Kocaeli, Turkey's Industry and Technology Minister Mustafa Varank said this protocol was a significant step to make Turkey a technology base.

"World's giant Huawei and Informatics Valley will work together in the frame of Turkey's Technological Research Council's Research & Development (R&D) Laboratory Support Program," Varank said.

Within the scope of cooperation with Huawei, a center will be established for developing technologies in artificial intelligence, big data, internet of things, blockchain and smart mobility fields, the minister noted.

He added: "We bring prominent R&D companies in our country."

"We want to see Turkey as a leading production base for industry and technology," Varank said.

He underlined that high value-added production was the basis of the ministry's "National Technology and Powerful Industry" vision.

Varank said, Informatics Valley, Turkey's first and biggest thematic technopark, hosts over 50 technology firms.

"Turkey has a strong R&D ecosystem, our opportunities are attractive for both domestic and foreign investors," he added.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/science-technology/turkey-huawei-sign-protocol-on-smart-cities/1433575
 

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