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Hindu Radicals Pose Terrorist Challenge to the Sub-Continent

How about you give us a break with your pro-Hindu/Indian posts all the time.
Everything or ANYTHING that might reveal a slight part or piece of the truth regarding India's negative involvements in South East Asia, and you immediately jump on the defensive line without even knowing if India really is innocent or not.
You're the type that would rather blame Islamic militants all the time for all the problems in our region, whilst the Hindu militant problem is most certainly there, and is continuing to grow as seen in the latest news and the articles we've seen so far, it will continue to grow and we have to keep an eye out for it, now you can go along and continue with blaming the terrorists from the Islamic side, we however, have accepted that and are fightning this problem, but at the sime time, we're also recognizing and undergoing serious problems with these Hindu fanatics.
Seriously, learn to read.

I'm not questioning the contents of the article; I am however contesting the faulty conclusions MBI Munshi is attempting to draw from it in order to falsely justify his wet dream.

Also, I'm not against you or MBI Munshi deluding yourselves into believing that radical Hindus somehow pose a greater threat to the region than radical Islamists, or that unicorns live in your backyard. Just don't say a paper supports that assertion when it clearly doesn't. And if you do, be prepared to be labeled as an intellectual hack.
 
Seriously, learn to read.

I'm not questioning the contents of the article; I am however contesting the faulty conclusions MBI Munshi is attempting to draw from it in order to falsely justify his wet dream.

Also, I'm not against you or MBI Munshi deluding yourselves into believing that radical Hindus somehow pose a greater threat to the region than radical Islamists, or that unicorns live in your backyard. Just don't say a paper supports that assertion when it clearly doesn't. And if you do, be prepared to be labeled as an intellectual hack.

Where did I say it poses a greater threat then radical Islamic militants?
Please don't turn things around.
 
I believe Hindu militancy and fanaticism poses a potentially greater threat than Islamist militancy whose causes are specific and issue based i.e. Kashmir. The Hindu militant ideology is far more wide ranging and has expansionist idealogical agendas that are not confined to simply South Asia but extend further afield as Indian economic might increases. For the moment the Hindu groups are gradually infiltrating every sector of India and will become a powerful force within the decade. They share similar symbolism and ideology of the Nazi's and I recall that L.K. Advani actually expressed his admiration for Hitler. If the Hindu's can once again obtain state power they will not be confined to planting explosives on trains since they will have the Indian military machinery within their control. This is not to suggest that Congress is any better but their approach is more piecemeal but the domination and hegemony over South Asia still remains an important component of their regional policy and is not obviously or overtly Hindu in character. The Congress is like an onion the more skins you peal off the more is revealed if you peel enough skins you will find a Hindu Brahmin at the centre of things.
 
Indian diaspora funding Hindu extremism

By Angana Chatterji

"In the United States, where substantial funds are raised for Hindu extremist agendas, the U.S. Government must act to ensure that organizations that broker terror should not continue to enjoy their non-profit status within the USA."

It is now no secret that the Sangh Parivar, the collective name given to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), the Bajrang Dal and other Hindu extremist organizations, is exploiting religion (Hindutva) to foment communal violence in India. To this end they are organizing the ultra-right, non-secular and undemocratic forces in India. What is less known is how these forces of injustice and bigotry are funded, especially by the Indian-Hindu communities living abroad.

These organizations receive substantial contributions from Hindus in the United States and elsewhere. The Indian magazine, "Outlook," in its July 22, 2002, issue published an article by A. K. Sen, titled, 'Deflections to the Right'. The piece highlighted a component of the chain of funding that sustains Hindu extremism. The article states that the India Development and Relief Fund (IDRF) is one of the more conspicuous charity organizations that raises funds in the United States to support the RSS battalions in India. IDRF lists Sewa International as its counterpart in India. Sewa International and the various organizations it oversees receive over two-thirds of the IDRF funding. Incidentally, Sewa International, in its mission to transform India, states on its website in a section on 'Experiments and Results' with 'Social Harmony' that social consolidation can be achieved through social cohesion. Among other things, the website quotes Manya H. V. Sehadarji, Sarkaryawah of the RSS, as saying: "The ultimate object of all these endeavours is Hindu Sangathan-consolidation and strengthening of the Hindu society."

Hindu extremism, like other xenophobic movements, functions through carefully fashioned exclusionary principles whereby all non-Hindus and dissenting Hindus, identified as Hindu traitors, become second-class citizens. In addition, justification of caste inequities, subordination of Dalits ('lower' caste communities), women, adivasis (tribal) and other minorities, and the consolidation of a cohesive middle-class base are critical to its momentum.

In the United States, where substantial funds are raised for Hindu extremist agendas, the U.S. Government must act to ensure that organizations that broker terror should not continue to enjoy their non-profit status within the USA. It is interesting that in 1999, the VHP failed to gain recognition at the United Nations as 'a cultural organization' because of its philosophical underpinnings. However, the VHP of America is an independent charity registered in the United States in the 1970s, where it has, and continues to, receive funds from a variety of individuals and organizations.

Non-Resident Indians (NRIs) and Americans of Indian descent must examine the politics of hate encouraged by extremist Hindu organizations in the name of charity and social work. Indians, one of the most financially successful groups in the United States, must take seriously their moral obligation to ensure that their dollars are not funding malice and scrutinize the organizations that are on the receiving end in India. The issue is not whether these organizations are undertaking charitable work, but whether they are doing so to promote separatist and non-secular ideals. Param Vaibhav Ke Path Par (On The Road To Great Glory), written by Sadanand Damodar Sapre, and published in 1997 by Suruchi Prakashan, Jhandewalan, New Delhi, the central publication house of the RSS, lists the 40-plus organizations maintained by the RSS in India for its multivariate programs.

In addition, the VHP and other Parivar outfits aim at the communalization of education through the 'Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram' and 'Ekal Vidyalas' (schools). One strategy is to Hinduize adivasi communities, exploit divisions among the marginalized and indoctrinate the youth, in order to both turn them against one another and use them as foot soldiers in the larger cause of religious nationalism. Such inculcation has had serious repercussions in Gujarat, India, this year where tribals were manipulated into attacking Muslims during the carnage in February and March 2002.

While Hindu fundamentalists do not have a monopoly on religious intolerance in India, their actions are holding the country hostage. Well-organized, widespread and acting in the name of [Hinduism] the majority religion in India, Hindu extremism is positioned to silence diversity through force and terror, the rhetoric of Hindu supremacy and the positioning of minority groups as depraved enemies who must be punished.

Indians at home and abroad must oppose the deep infiltration of the Hindutva brigade into the press, as well as other institutions -- political, military, bureaucratic, civic, business, educational and law and order -- of India. Such infiltration is creating a nation where religious fundamentalists violate the Constitution of India and the state tolerates such violation. While the present BJP regime at the center has overt and close links to organizations within the Sangh Parivar, citizens are assured that secularism and democracy are sacred and secure. The reality is different. The Indian government's handling of communal violence and sanctioning of communal discourse is clear to the observers and threatens to jeopardize India's capacity to function as a nation.

The VHP, in its meeting with Muslim leaders in New Delhi on July 15, 2002, stated that if Muslims agreed to resettle Hindus in Jammu and Kashmir, Muslims in Gujarat would be rehabilitated. The Hindus must understand that issues connected to the democratization of Pakistan, ethical resolutions to Kashmir, or gender reforms within Islam are separate from India's commitment to upholding the rights of minorities or to reforms within Hinduism.

Hindu extremism against Muslims and other minorities in India collapses distinctions that must be made to honour human rights in India. Also, Hindutva's discourse of history posits Hindus and Hinduism as being under siege and preposterously asserts the idea of India as a Hindu Nation. Such revisionist history strategically and hideously poses that a vengeful justice can be found for the crimes of history committed by non-Hindu rulers. Retribution is sought by attacking contemporary Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and others in India.

Hinduism is critical to the fabric of India, as are all the other cultures and religions that inhabit it and frame the imagination of the Indian nations. It will require considerable effort on the part of progressive Indians to conceive a secular nation where religion is indeed separate from the integrity of the state and where pluralism guarantees rights and respect to the religious and non-religious alike. Every Hindu, and every citizen, must denounce that to be Indian is to be Hindu, challenge assertions that a secular Constitution is anti-Hindu and refute the call for a Hindu Nation in India as anti-national. Patriotism and nationalism demand that all social, political and religious groups work for an India free of disenfranchisement, institutionalized violence, corruption and rampant inequities. The Indians cannot permit India's secular and democratic fabric to be irreparably compromised.

Angana Chatterji is a professor of social
and cultural anthropology at the California Institute of Integral Studies.


Indian diaspora funding Hindu extremism, The Milli Gazette, Vol.3 No.16, MG62 (16-31 Aug 02)
 
I believe Hindu militancy and fanaticism poses a potentially greater threat than Islamist militancy whose causes are specific and issue based i.e. Kashmir. The Hindu militant ideology is far more wide ranging and has expansionist idealogical agendas that are not confined to simply South Asia but extend further afield as Indian economic might increases. For the moment the Hindu groups are gradually infiltrating every sector of India and will become a powerful force within the decade. They share similar symbolism and ideology of the Nazi's and I recall that L.K. Advani actually expressed his admiration for Hitler. If the Hindu's can once again obtain state power they will not be confined to planting explosives on trains since they will have the Indian military machinery within their control. This is not to suggest that Congress is any better but their approach is more piecemeal but the domination and hegemony over South Asia still remains an important component of their regional policy and is not obviously or overtly Hindu in character. The Congress is like an onion the more skins you peal off the more is revealed if you peel enough skins you will find a Hindu Brahmin at the centre of things.
Spot on! Icing on your cake would be to let you know that the RSS saffronists have already infiltrated in Indian MIL, which ironically has become the biggest terror factory in INDO-PAK-BANGLA Sub-continent. But its mustering on blaming, framing Muslims to get away with murders without being caught is a part of immoral chanakyaism. That being said, Indian economic rise at our cost is the biggest worrying factor to me.
 
I believe Hindu militancy and fanaticism poses a potentially greater threat than Islamist militancy whose causes are specific and issue based i.e. Kashmir. The Hindu militant ideology is far more wide ranging and has expansionist idealogical agendas that are not confined to simply South Asia but extend further afield as Indian economic might increases. For the moment the Hindu groups are gradually infiltrating every sector of India and will become a powerful force within the decade. They share similar symbolism and ideology of the Nazi's and I recall that L.K. Advani actually expressed his admiration for Hitler. If the Hindu's can once again obtain state power they will not be confined to planting explosives on trains since they will have the Indian military machinery within their control. This is not to suggest that Congress is any better but their approach is more piecemeal but the domination and hegemony over South Asia still remains an important component of their regional policy and is not obviously or overtly Hindu in character. The Congress is like an onion the more skins you peal off the more is revealed if you peel enough skins you will find a Hindu Brahmin at the centre of things.

Hallucination! There have been 11,000+ terror attacks since 9/11.

Guess how many are by "Hindu terrorists" and how many by the Islamic terrorists!

But then you a pathetic person forever in denial of the obvious. Not looking at the mirror won't hide the terrible ugliness that you are trying to hide. Everyone around can still see it! :bunny:
 
Hallucination! There have been 11,000+ terror attacks since 9/11.

Guess how many are by "Hindu terrorists" and how many by the Islamic terrorists!

But then you a pathetic person forever in denial of the obvious. Not looking at the mirror won't hide the terrible ugliness that you are trying to hide. Everyone around can still see it! :bunny:
Try to implicate Muslims in some before your arse catches on reverse-chanakya fire, will ya? Since every thing is sharabi mode in Hindutavya camp, possibility of the miss-representation of the word, the 'pathetic' can't be rolled out over there either..
 
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I believe Hindu militancy and fanaticism poses a potentially greater threat than Islamist militancy whose causes are specific and issue based i.e. Kashmir. The Hindu militant ideology is far more wide ranging and has expansionist idealogical agendas that are not confined to simply South Asia but extend further afield as Indian economic might increases. For the moment the Hindu groups are gradually infiltrating every sector of India and will become a powerful force within the decade. They share similar symbolism and ideology of the Nazi's and I recall that L.K. Advani actually expressed his admiration for Hitler. If the Hindu's can once again obtain state power they will not be confined to planting explosives on trains since they will have the Indian military machinery within their control. This is not to suggest that Congress is any better but their approach is more piecemeal but the domination and hegemony over South Asia still remains an important component of their regional policy and is not obviously or overtly Hindu in character. The Congress is like an onion the more skins you peal off the more is revealed if you peel enough skins you will find a Hindu Brahmin at the centre of things.

Hindu extremism can be justified too as a fitting reply to Muslim terror. Fight fire with fire.
 
Hallucination! There have been 11,000+ terror attacks since 9/11.

Guess how many are by "Hindu terrorists" and how many by the Islamic terrorists!

But then you a pathetic person forever in denial of the obvious. Not looking at the mirror won't hide the terrible ugliness that you are trying to hide. Everyone around can still see it! :bunny:

How do you know some of the attacks are not conducted by the Hindu extremists and then blamed onto the Muslim terrorists?

Can LTTE be counted as Hindu terrorist?YES.That's because they entered mosques and killed Sri Lankan muslims while they were praying.They are also to be blamed for "inventing" Suicide bombing.

11000+ terrorist attacks,now did you include Iraq and Afganisthan in it?Then let me remind you those are war zone.Any tactic is fare at war.Not that I support it but that's the truth.

Look at terrorist attacks in India,to get a real view of "Saffron Terrorists".As far as I know,its India where there are most communal riots in the world.Beating up the minorities and hence terrorizing them can also be counted as act of terrorism.But alas,"Terrorism" has lost its meaning,these "small" incidents does not count as terrorism.Because they don't make good news.:tsk:

When there is a bomb blast,we read the newspaper :coffee: and say,"must be Islamic terrorists",because it is how the media portrays it.Now do you know the term "copycat crime",and tell me is it that hard for the "Hindu terrorists" to get away with their work?
 
Hindu extremism can be justified too as a fitting reply to Muslim terror. Fight fire with fire.

Didn't expect such silly reply from a senior member with 6000+ posts.Don't know it was sarcastic or not.
 
Most of the LTTE men are converted christians. Even LTTE boos Prabhakaran himself is a converted christian and his son name is Charles Anthony.
 
Most of the LTTE men are converted christians. Even LTTE boos Prabhakaran himself is a converted christian and his son name is Charles Anthony.

And these converted were funded and armed by hardliner Hindus from South India. :coffee:
 
I believe Hindu militancy and fanaticism poses a potentially greater threat than Islamist militancy whose causes are specific and issue based i.e. Kashmir. The Hindu militant ideology is far more wide ranging and has expansionist idealogical agendas that are not confined to simply South Asia but extend further afield as Indian economic might increases. For the moment the Hindu groups are gradually infiltrating every sector of India and will become a powerful force within the decade. They share similar symbolism and ideology of the Nazi's and I recall that L.K. Advani actually expressed his admiration for Hitler. If the Hindu's can once again obtain state power they will not be confined to planting explosives on trains since they will have the Indian military machinery within their control. This is not to suggest that Congress is any better but their approach is more piecemeal but the domination and hegemony over South Asia still remains an important component of their regional policy and is not obviously or overtly Hindu in character. The Congress is like an onion the more skins you peal off the more is revealed if you peel enough skins you will find a Hindu Brahmin at the centre of things.
This is all well and good, but I don't think anyone of significance cares about what the voices in your head tell you to believe.
 

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