Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023
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When you are in London drop me a massage. I am not going to your shithole
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These guys literally just fabricated a conversation. What the hell kind of Arabs talk like this. They are getting so desperate.
Not only is Hamas is reposibile for hitting their own hospital , they also knew well enough they are resposible and bluntly lied about it.
Also this is not the first time this happens , you know well enough that many of those lousy rockets they fire fall on their own people , and they dont have Iron dome or shelters to protect them like here.
Basicly they lied about them firing the missile and the numbers killed.
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To be fair, they dont claim a small hamas rocket leveled the hospital.
They claim it was hamas rocket/rocket shrapnel igniting a hamas stockpile or gas.
Hamas is known to operate from such buildings/use human shields so its not completely impossible scenario.
But explosion experts should be quick to determine it from video/disaster scene.
You are a senior member & you should know by now that it’s a Misinformation/Disinformation account linked to NATO at the very least & Zio/USA agencies more specifically. It’s not a single person that’s running it. It’s a deliberate effort to peddle Misinformation/Disinformation on this platform. There are other similar accounts on here as well & you can recognise them by the Gibberish they peddle & their pattern of Misinformation.
Please save your energy, you are not convincing a normal Joe.
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Zionists are allowed to lie to goyim in order to deceive. The euphemism they use for this is hasbara. We are seeing allot of that here.
It's imperative to their religion....they are a truly devious creed.
It's imperative to their religion....they are a truly devious creed.
Israel-Hamas latest news: Lack of crater proves we did not destroy Gaza hospital, claims Israel
The Israeli Defence Forces has released a 30-second video they claim exonerates them over the hospital blast in Gaza second.
www.telegraph.co.uk
IDF claims “no crater” at hospital site.
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We have the names of those speaking . I imagine if they wire taped them , they might know their identity as well.
Biped in the recording :
Beside , opinion need to be based on all evidence presented , this recording by itself is just one piece of the whole picture ,there is a lot more evidence and it seems to be substantial.
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This is 100% what the land grabbing genocidal muricans and the israelis are planning to do.
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This decidedly is a myth stemming from zionist propaganda, which has no basis in ground reality. Since I doubt you're versed enough in modern Iranian history to involve yourself in a debate on the subject, I will expound for the benefit of interested readers.
Indeed the origins of Isra"el"i mischief in Iran stretch back decades prior to the victory of the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Under the guidance of Imam Khomeini (r.A.), Iranians were denouncing Tel Aviv's role as early as 1963 in the framework of the 15th Khordad uprising for instance. Earlier still, during the mandate of democratically elected secular Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq, under whose auspices the oil industries were nationalized after decades of outright exploitation at the hands of the British, the Isra"el"i diplomatic representation in Tehran was shut down in solidarity with the Palestinian people.
In the aftermath of the CIA-staged coup which illegally overthrew Mosaddeq in 1953, Tel Aviv proved instrumental in setting up, training and supporting the toppled Pahlavi monarchy's repressive apparatus, especially its feared SAVAK secret police. Isra"el" was therefore involved in the persecution, torture and murder of Iranians opposed to the CIA-installed regime of the shah.
In a deeper sense Isra"el" via its networks of influence encroached upon Iranian sovereignty. Although SAVAK was reputed to be answering directly to the shah's, Tel Aviv had established its own stay behind connection within SAVAK by relying on officers of choice. A possible illustration would be Parviz Sabeti, who fled Iran during the Islamic Revolution and then went to reside in Occupied Palestine for some time, and who is said to have Isra"el"i citizenship. Amongst other major instruments deployed by Isra"el" to influence Iranian policy making we can cite the Zeytun network orchestrated by figures such as the Alikhani brothers, or the pro-zionist association headed by Habibollah Elqanian.
Last but not least the Haifan Baha'i organization based in Isra"el", whose leadership is in line with the zionist agenda, had succeeded in gaining control of multiple key positions in Iranian politics (e.g. former Prime Minister Hoveyda), media and the banking sector.
In short, Iran used to be largely under the control of zionists who, much like the USA regime were depriving Iran of her sovereignty and reducing her status to that of a client state at the service of foreign interests. It was the 1979 Islamic Revolution which emancipated Iran from this subjugation.
So while the Islamic Republic's principled support for the Palestinian cause does correspond to the fulfillment of a religious duty toward fellow Moslems, this is not the exclusive explanation behind Iran's opposition to the zionist entity. Other factors are that Tel Aviv's hegemonic ambitions objectively represent a threat to Iran's independence as evidenced by the historic reminders above, and also that solidarity with peoples and governments suffering from imperialist oppression has constituted yet another foundational pillar of the Islamic Revolution.
Hence why Iran backed the South African liberation movement against the ruling apartheid regime even though this movement did not primarily consist of Moslems (incidentally Nelson Mandela paid visit to the Islamic Republic on at least one occasion). Hence why today Iran is closely cooperating with anti-imperialist governments of Latin America such as Venezuela, Nicaragua, and so on.
No matter which perspective one will thus choose to look at it from - whether from the religious, national security or anti-imperialist angle, Iran has had plenty of reasons to stand up to the regime in Tel Aviv. The contention that the Islamic Republic's decision to turn against Isra"el" was an arbitrary one is thus counter-factual.
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Western news outlets describe the confusion behind the cause with both sides pointing at each other, with Israel showing video, recording, and “no crater” picture.
so for the pro-palestinians here.
That the Western public is not more forceful against Israel is not due to “anti muslim hatred” but because of mainstream media coverage.
apart from claims of both sides, israel attacking such a high profile civilian target in full world focus, for no strategic purpose seems odd.
so for the pro-palestinians here.
That the Western public is not more forceful against Israel is not due to “anti muslim hatred” but because of mainstream media coverage.
apart from claims of both sides, israel attacking such a high profile civilian target in full world focus, for no strategic purpose seems odd.
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Lol, The perfect fake recording, It is very nice of them to take their time to explicitly remind each other that the shrapnel was not Israeli, You know, Just to make sure to absolve the Israelis for the intended audience.
casualty of war, it is sad but they have to be hurted in any field of life possible, anyway it is bad food after all in comparation with local alternatives, this is called war awareness as you do not have any other significant means on disposal as civilian.
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