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From Egypt to Indonesia, all Islamic nations must learn from Pakistan’s mistakes
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When Pakistan was founded in 1947, its secular founding fathers did not speak of an Islamic state.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah, recognized as Pakistan’s Quaid-e-Azam (Great Leader), clearly declared that non-Muslims would be equal citizens in the new country. Reflecting his secular views, Jinnah—himself a Shia—nominated a Hindu, several Shias and an Ahmadi to Pakistan’s first cabinet. Now, non-Muslim representation at the Cabinet level is limited to symbolic appointments, while Shias face smear campaigns from Sunni Muslims that declare them non-Muslims. And the Ahmadis—who were some of Jinnah’s most ardent supporters in his quest for a Muslim homeland on the subcontinent—are completely unrepresented; they live as virtual outcasts in modern Pakistan.


In his famous speech of 11 August 1947, Jinnah had stated that, in order to make Pakistan ‘happy and prosperous’, every person living in the country, ‘no matter what is his colour, caste or creed, [should be] first, second and last a citizen of this State with equal rights, privileges, and obligations’. His speech advanced the case for a secular, albeit Muslim-majority, Pakistan: ‘I cannot emphasize it too much. We should begin to work in that spirit and in course of time all these angularities of the majority and minority communities, the Hindu community and the Muslim community … will vanish.’


Jinnah also declared,
You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the State … We are starting in the days where there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State … Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal and you will find that in course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.


The vision outlined by Pakistan’s founder remains unfulfilled. Indeed, it appears further from realization than at any time since this hopeful declaration of religious pluralism was made. At the time of partition in 1947, almost 23% of Pakistan’s population (which then included Bangladesh) comprised non-Muslim citizens. The proportion of non-Muslims has since fallen to approximately 3%.


Pakistan has descended to its current state of religious intolerance through a series of political decisions by Jinnah’s successors.
Furthermore, the distinctions among Muslim denominations have become far more accentuated over the years. Muslim groups such as the Shias, which account for approximately 20-25% of Pakistan’s Muslim population, are often targeted by violent extremists. Ahmadis, barely 1% of the Muslim population, have been declared non-Muslim by the writ of the state. Non-Muslim minorities such as Christians, Hindus and Sikhs have been the victims of suicide bomb attacks on their neighbourhoods, and their community members have been converted to Islam against their will. Houses of worship of non-Muslims as well as of Muslim minority sects have been attacked and bombed while filled with worshippers.


Pakistan has descended to its current state of religious intolerance through a series of political decisions by Jinnah’s successors. The descent began in 1949 with the Constituent Assembly declaring the objective of Pakistan’s Constitution to be the creation of an Islamic state. It reached a nadir with the ‘Islamization’ drive under General Zia during the 1980s. Now, the country is dealing with armed militias and terrorist groups—many of which were sponsored by the state under the Zia regime and in the civil and military governments since—each intent on imposing its version of Islam by violent means.


Pakistan’s most prominent human rights activist, Asma Jahangir, warns that the worst is yet to come. ‘Past experience has shown that the Islamists gain space when civilian authority weakens,’ she pointed out in an article a few years ago. ‘The proliferation of arms and official sanction for jihad have made militant groups a frightening challenge for the government. Pakistan’s future remains uncertain and its will to fight against rising religious intolerance is waning.’ The purpose of examining Pakistan’s embrace of religious extremism is not revealed merely in the recognition of the country’s ill treatment of its religious minorities.




In the context of a Muslim world comprising a youthful population of somewhere in the order of 1.4 billion people, it is equally critical to note the actions of state-sponsored organizations or extremist groups against religious minorities in all Muslim countries. Attacks on religious minorities occur in several Muslim-majority nations, from Egypt to Indonesia, just as they do in Pakistan. But as Pakistan is the first country to declare itself an Islamic republic in modern times, the study of Pakistan’s handling of its minorities can be a helpful guide in understanding and anticipating the threats that would arise wherever Islamist militancy is on the ascendant.


From Egypt to Indonesia, all Islamic nations must learn from Pakistan’s mistakes - Quartz
 
Pakistan’s most prominent human rights activist, Asma Jahangir, warns that the worst is yet to come.
To be honest I believe the worst is behind us. Only my personal opinion, could be wrong though.
On topic, Egypt is surviving because of Sisi otherwise the muslim brotherhood would've taken it down the same path as us and Turkey is repeating literally the exact same mistakes under Erdogan as Pakistan did under Zia. Indonesia is already very conservative so penetration of extremists into society is very easy but I hope/pray it doesn't happen. Besides this I think the only threat to Islam today is the House of Saud. Hope they fall to a bloody revolution, and with them the Salafist/Wahhabist ideology.
 
The problem is both rights wingers and left wingers in this country are hypocrites and so are the intellectuals who support them. None of them wants democracy. Semi Democracy was actually brought in by a military dictator named Musharraf.

Second point, Pakistan is caught between two extremes, so called modern enlightenment by Pres Musharraf and so called religious model of Pres Zia. Both of them lacked accountability which is at the heart of a successful model be it religious or otherwise. So it was a drama to hold onto power by both. Civilian leaders be it bhutto, Nawaz, and others propped up by dictators also failed miserably.

History should blame the Pakistan Muslim League leadership. After Quaid, no one even knew the basics of law and governance. This party failed to define the extent of religion in the country and gave open field to sectarian mullahs. They also failed to conduct land reforms, a big set back. They could have made it a one party state, but didn't.

. Besides this I think the only threat to Islam today is the House of Saud. Hope they fall to a bloody revolution, and with them the Salafist/Wahhabist ideology.

Well so are the Iranian mullahs. These two have torn apart the muslim world.
 
Most pakistanis are very good from heart and have the fighting spirit be it finishing up daily life errands or defending the nation. Currently they are in the midst of terrorism but I am 100% sure that they would be a great country in future !
 
Anything which have knocked at our door, we have knocked it straight out of the park.As Quaid-e-Azam said :their is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan"
You are wrong, so was Jinnah if he did say what the quote you attribute to him.
Pakistan as it existed under Jinnah, no longer exists either geographically or politically. Today Pakistan's map is radically different from what it was back when Jinnah was alive. It was undone by India geographically. Period.

And It was undone politically by your own leaders(political and military). I believe Jinnah said religion of the individual was his own business and state has nothing to do with it - yet your leaders after Jinnah passed the Objectives Resolution and today your state defines who is Muslim and who is not(Ahmadis).

So to sum up - You are wrong. You have not knocked everything at your door, out of the park. You have been had - both by your own leadership as well as your enemy \- India.
We are nothing like the rest of Islamic countires, Look at middle east syrians are fleeing to every coner of the world but are not welcomed in their immediate nieghbour while Pakistan opened its arms to million of afghans when soviets attacked and was one of the biggest immigration of the world.We helped everyone from bosnia to africa.
Pakistan is the only muslim country which sees both shia and sunnis countries equally
Your second part may be true.
 
Pakistani 'liberals' love bashing our 'Islamicness' (even though our country is nowhere close to being an Islamic republic) and Zia ul Haq the supposed man behind every second and inch of our problems.

The only country which "fully" implemented Islamic government is Iran - please read this to see if it was more harmful or helpful.
Iranian Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Women's rights, HDI, Health and ect... all sky rocketed overnight after the revolution.

General Zia did what was best for our country's interests at that time; it was Mushy who allowed radicalization of the people and used this to his advantage and will.
 
If these Islamic nations need to learn anything from us, it is our resilience and our never ending ability to bounce back in the fight. We held off USSR on one flank, attacked it in its own territory while we made Rajiv Gandhi pull his massive Army back from our borders at the same time. That takes balls. Yes the last decade has cost us a lot but we are back in business, we have militarily won the war by defeating a highly sophisticated insurgency on our own soil. Pakistan as a society is vibrant and open, we can mock our politicians and generals as much as we want, no one can do anything to stop it. Pakistanis bicker a lot but when we face a threat, we stick together and fight back like honeybees. This is a inheritance we received from our cultural upbringing, and that is precisely why we didn't become Syria, Iraq or Somalia. I agree that they need to learn from our mistakes, but they must also learn from our strengths.

Most pakistanis are very good from heart and have the fighting spirit be it finishing up daily life errands or defending the nation. Currently they are in the midst of terrorism but I am 100% sure that they would be a great country in future !
 
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From Egypt to Indonesia, all Islamic nations must learn from Pakistan’s mistakes
pak.jpg


When Pakistan was founded in 1947, its secular founding fathers did not speak of an Islamic state.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah, recognized as Pakistan’s Quaid-e-Azam (Great Leader), clearly declared that non-Muslims would be equal citizens in the new country. Reflecting his secular views, Jinnah—himself a Shia—nominated a Hindu, several Shias and an Ahmadi to Pakistan’s first cabinet. Now, non-Muslim representation at the Cabinet level is limited to symbolic appointments, while Shias face smear campaigns from Sunni Muslims that declare them non-Muslims. And the Ahmadis—who were some of Jinnah’s most ardent supporters in his quest for a Muslim homeland on the subcontinent—are completely unrepresented; they live as virtual outcasts in modern Pakistan.


In his famous speech of 11 August 1947, Jinnah had stated that, in order to make Pakistan ‘happy and prosperous’, every person living in the country, ‘no matter what is his colour, caste or creed, [should be] first, second and last a citizen of this State with equal rights, privileges, and obligations’. His speech advanced the case for a secular, albeit Muslim-majority, Pakistan: ‘I cannot emphasize it too much. We should begin to work in that spirit and in course of time all these angularities of the majority and minority communities, the Hindu community and the Muslim community … will vanish.’


Jinnah also declared,
You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the State … We are starting in the days where there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State … Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal and you will find that in course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.


The vision outlined by Pakistan’s founder remains unfulfilled. Indeed, it appears further from realization than at any time since this hopeful declaration of religious pluralism was made. At the time of partition in 1947, almost 23% of Pakistan’s population (which then included Bangladesh) comprised non-Muslim citizens. The proportion of non-Muslims has since fallen to approximately 3%.


Pakistan has descended to its current state of religious intolerance through a series of political decisions by Jinnah’s successors.
Furthermore, the distinctions among Muslim denominations have become far more accentuated over the years. Muslim groups such as the Shias, which account for approximately 20-25% of Pakistan’s Muslim population, are often targeted by violent extremists. Ahmadis, barely 1% of the Muslim population, have been declared non-Muslim by the writ of the state. Non-Muslim minorities such as Christians, Hindus and Sikhs have been the victims of suicide bomb attacks on their neighbourhoods, and their community members have been converted to Islam against their will. Houses of worship of non-Muslims as well as of Muslim minority sects have been attacked and bombed while filled with worshippers.


Pakistan has descended to its current state of religious intolerance through a series of political decisions by Jinnah’s successors. The descent began in 1949 with the Constituent Assembly declaring the objective of Pakistan’s Constitution to be the creation of an Islamic state. It reached a nadir with the ‘Islamization’ drive under General Zia during the 1980s. Now, the country is dealing with armed militias and terrorist groups—many of which were sponsored by the state under the Zia regime and in the civil and military governments since—each intent on imposing its version of Islam by violent means.


Pakistan’s most prominent human rights activist, Asma Jahangir, warns that the worst is yet to come. ‘Past experience has shown that the Islamists gain space when civilian authority weakens,’ she pointed out in an article a few years ago. ‘The proliferation of arms and official sanction for jihad have made militant groups a frightening challenge for the government. Pakistan’s future remains uncertain and its will to fight against rising religious intolerance is waning.’ The purpose of examining Pakistan’s embrace of religious extremism is not revealed merely in the recognition of the country’s ill treatment of its religious minorities.




In the context of a Muslim world comprising a youthful population of somewhere in the order of 1.4 billion people, it is equally critical to note the actions of state-sponsored organizations or extremist groups against religious minorities in all Muslim countries. Attacks on religious minorities occur in several Muslim-majority nations, from Egypt to Indonesia, just as they do in Pakistan. But as Pakistan is the first country to declare itself an Islamic republic in modern times, the study of Pakistan’s handling of its minorities can be a helpful guide in understanding and anticipating the threats that would arise wherever Islamist militancy is on the ascendant.


From Egypt to Indonesia, all Islamic nations must learn from Pakistan’s mistakes - Quartz
Biased Load of Crap.
 
As far as I know Iqbal is considered to be the ideologue of Pakistan and not Jinnah. Iqbal's vision was a true Islamic state Jinnah struggled to achieve that vision. Him being secular is a secondary issue primarily because his parents sent an adolescent man to England and his formative years were spent there his struggle to achieve an Islamic State is a true calling as he did it per his own volition and accord. The fact that democracies are toppled when they demand Islam is very evident when overwhelming majorities voted in Algeria and Egypt the revolutions were rolled back. So Pakistan is not a basket case!
 
Important to know the author of this article. This venom has a history. A very deep and vicious history.

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Farahnaz Ispahani (Urdu: فرحناز اصفهانی‎) is a Pakistani author, journalist, politician, and policy analyst. She is a former Public Policy Scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center.

She is married to Hussain Haqqani, the former Pakistan Ambassador to the United States, and is the granddaughter of Pakistan's first ambassador to the United States, Mirza Abol Hassan Ispahani.

Farahnaz Ispahani has worked for women and religious minorities in Pakistan for the last 25 years, first as a journalist, then as a member of Pakistan’s National Assembly, and most recently as a scholar based in the US. She has also served as a spokesperson and international media coordinator for the Pakistan People’s Party, working alongside the late Benazir Bhutto. During her tenure in parliament (2008–12), she was a member of the Foreign Affairs and Human Rights Committees and of the Women’s Parliamentary Caucus. In 2012, she was listed among Foreign Policy magazine’s Top 100 Global Thinkers, as well as Newsweek Pakistan’s Top 100 Women Who Matter.
 
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As per wiki Farahnaz Ispahani is married to Hussain Haqqani. If true that explains this article lol.

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"Ms. Ispahani is a journalist and was a member of the Pakistani parliament, while Haqqani, her husband, was Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. from 2008 to 2011."

Pakistani exiles speak out about country's religious extremism - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News

These people are more American than Pakistani... There is a reason why America has provided them refuge and why they fled Pakistan. Hussain Haqqani is the man who provided hundreds of visas to US spies and contractors operating in Pakistan.

These people harbor special hate for Pakistan.
 
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From Egypt to Indonesia, all Islamic nations must learn from Pakistan’s mistakes
pak.jpg


When Pakistan was founded in 1947, its secular founding fathers did not speak of an Islamic state.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah, recognized as Pakistan’s Quaid-e-Azam (Great Leader), clearly declared that non-Muslims would be equal citizens in the new country. Reflecting his secular views, Jinnah—himself a Shia—nominated a Hindu, several Shias and an Ahmadi to Pakistan’s first cabinet. Now, non-Muslim representation at the Cabinet level is limited to symbolic appointments, while Shias face smear campaigns from Sunni Muslims that declare them non-Muslims. And the Ahmadis—who were some of Jinnah’s most ardent supporters in his quest for a Muslim homeland on the subcontinent—are completely unrepresented; they live as virtual outcasts in modern Pakistan.


In his famous speech of 11 August 1947, Jinnah had stated that, in order to make Pakistan ‘happy and prosperous’, every person living in the country, ‘no matter what is his colour, caste or creed, [should be] first, second and last a citizen of this State with equal rights, privileges, and obligations’. His speech advanced the case for a secular, albeit Muslim-majority, Pakistan: ‘I cannot emphasize it too much. We should begin to work in that spirit and in course of time all these angularities of the majority and minority communities, the Hindu community and the Muslim community … will vanish.’


Jinnah also declared,
You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the State … We are starting in the days where there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State … Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal and you will find that in course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.


The vision outlined by Pakistan’s founder remains unfulfilled. Indeed, it appears further from realization than at any time since this hopeful declaration of religious pluralism was made. At the time of partition in 1947, almost 23% of Pakistan’s population (which then included Bangladesh) comprised non-Muslim citizens. The proportion of non-Muslims has since fallen to approximately 3%.


Pakistan has descended to its current state of religious intolerance through a series of political decisions by Jinnah’s successors.
Furthermore, the distinctions among Muslim denominations have become far more accentuated over the years. Muslim groups such as the Shias, which account for approximately 20-25% of Pakistan’s Muslim population, are often targeted by violent extremists. Ahmadis, barely 1% of the Muslim population, have been declared non-Muslim by the writ of the state. Non-Muslim minorities such as Christians, Hindus and Sikhs have been the victims of suicide bomb attacks on their neighbourhoods, and their community members have been converted to Islam against their will. Houses of worship of non-Muslims as well as of Muslim minority sects have been attacked and bombed while filled with worshippers.


Pakistan has descended to its current state of religious intolerance through a series of political decisions by Jinnah’s successors. The descent began in 1949 with the Constituent Assembly declaring the objective of Pakistan’s Constitution to be the creation of an Islamic state. It reached a nadir with the ‘Islamization’ drive under General Zia during the 1980s. Now, the country is dealing with armed militias and terrorist groups—many of which were sponsored by the state under the Zia regime and in the civil and military governments since—each intent on imposing its version of Islam by violent means.


Pakistan’s most prominent human rights activist, Asma Jahangir, warns that the worst is yet to come. ‘Past experience has shown that the Islamists gain space when civilian authority weakens,’ she pointed out in an article a few years ago. ‘The proliferation of arms and official sanction for jihad have made militant groups a frightening challenge for the government. Pakistan’s future remains uncertain and its will to fight against rising religious intolerance is waning.’ The purpose of examining Pakistan’s embrace of religious extremism is not revealed merely in the recognition of the country’s ill treatment of its religious minorities.




In the context of a Muslim world comprising a youthful population of somewhere in the order of 1.4 billion people, it is equally critical to note the actions of state-sponsored organizations or extremist groups against religious minorities in all Muslim countries. Attacks on religious minorities occur in several Muslim-majority nations, from Egypt to Indonesia, just as they do in Pakistan. But as Pakistan is the first country to declare itself an Islamic republic in modern times, the study of Pakistan’s handling of its minorities can be a helpful guide in understanding and anticipating the threats that would arise wherever Islamist militancy is on the ascendant.


From Egypt to Indonesia, all Islamic nations must learn from Pakistan’s mistakes - Quartz

An article written by wife of Hussain Haqqani, published in Quartz India and citing Aasma Jehangir! Very credible! Is that the best you could do? Let me in you in on a secret. Do you know husband of this lady Mr Hussain Haqqani was office holder of militant Islamic wing of Jamaat-i-Islami? He was one of the staunchest supporter of Zia ul Haq right until his death? And he has favoured every government since then flip flopping every time regime changes until military screwed him! He served Zia, Nawaz Sharif, Benazir and Zardari and all. Go figure!
 
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