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First Photo of India’s AEW&C Jet Refuelling Mid-Air

To my knowledge, all 3 airframes are delivered to India by Embraer. 2 are being readied to join IAF while the third airframe will remain with CABS for further research and upgrades. Both IAF versions will be delivered this year and all necessary infrastructure is already built. Crew training is progressing now along with final user tests.

AWACS India will be on an A330 airframe as per current decision. DAC has approved the purchase of an initial lot of 2 airframes once design is frozen, platform procurement negotiation is in-progress. Again, this is the current plan, final product might differ.

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I don't understand why people tag me when other Indian posters invite AUS in i.e. war against Pakistan, and then he goes off on one, and then several Indian posters follow.
You do yourselves no favours and I'm sick of clearing such a mess.
 
Where do I apply? :D



Our actions are to keep the status quo and keep the enemy engaged in various forms. We are the smaller entity, so we have to keep the bigger enemy 'busy' so it doesn't have the time to assemble itself, gather resources, plot, and try to change the status quo--and we have done it pretty successfully through 1980's and 1990's---and in the mean time completed our nuclear deterrence to forever close doors on any indian hope to gain lost lands of hers...



....And neither did we :lol:

East and West Pakistan were thousands of miles apart already, and away from our mainland. You didn't "cut us in half" no matter how hardly you try to soothe your soul.

Infact, it was us who actually "cut" india into three pieces and completely cleansed your presence and indigenous idic civilization from 2 out 3 parts. And oh, we "cut" the contagious india into three..like the cutting is supposed to be...

:)



:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yes, just like india can conquer Pakistan AND China in 48 hours as well :lol:

If you had that much superiority, you would have done something. You would have put us at our place. You would have punished us after we bombed your cities in 1990's, made Kashmir a hell, and what not. But you didn't. Because you can't.

In real life, you'll bomb Lahore---and get Mumbai bombed to wreck in return. You'll bomb Islamabad--and Delhi would be put to fire by our forces. And so on.

You know it, your military knows it, and entire world knows it. You can rant all you want, but come back when your military even gets the guts to launch a simple surgical strike in Kashmir held by us--forget about mainland cities of Pakistan.

We all saw how utterly humiliated indian military was made at our hands in 2001-02 stand off, 2008 and so on..You couldn't even explore a freaking firecracker in our country directly via military action---forget about "erasing our cities and pets"

Btw, from pets, we'll lose pets..sure...but unlike you guys, we don't worship animals. We'll burn your cows. Imagine the pain!!! :omghaha:



You control our water? since when? :sarcastic:

You forgot about Indus Water Treaty? We have three major rivers in Punjab alone, and other numerous lakes, rivers, and bodies of water in our other provinces.

And human populations everywhere dump waste in waters. Hell, your own "holy ganges" is big pile of sh!t and pee..and you take bath in it as holy rituals. Atleast we don't do that. We have clean water to take showers at our home...:laughcry:




You lost even more territory in Rajasthan and surroundings in 1965 war AFTER the ceasefire was signed but fighting continued till next week or so.

And? :lol:

We have living accounts of soldiers and officers--and hell pictorial evidence which has been shared in this very forum and one Indian member literally commented "Humbled. Didn't know Pakistani claims weren't all air after all" (paraphrasing)...

They didn't tell you all that, did they? And even in 1971, our Air Force flattened your novice pilots in air by scoring 3 to 1 kill ratio as well.

See, posting such rants is easy. Both sides have had their good days and bad days--as happens in wars amongst equals.

The fact is, the has been a status quo between a us and our 7 times larger enemy...The very existence of this status quo based on balance of power is humiliating for you. After 26/11, we openly defied your threats and showed you middle finger after agreeing to send our intelligence chief to india. Why? Because your media didn't behave...:lol:



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Mexico has no military and is weak militarily. U.S is a hyper power.

Pakistan has a massively powerful military which is armed to teeth, very well trained, and has insane amount of combat experience backed by enough nuclear warheads to burn entire S.Asia---while india is no way near the league of hyperpower U.S and is a third world sh!thole for the most part.

But I found it sooo cute for you to make that comparison. Kinda like when indian journalist asked your defence minister after 2008 slaughtering of mumbai "why india doesn't do strikes on Pakistan? Israel is doing it in Gaza..why can we do Israel type action" and your defence minister was utterly dumbfounded :rofl::rofl::rofl:

You can spend ten times as us..doesn't mean you can easily 'over-run' us. That's the most stupid thing i've read all day.

But as I said, day dreaming is free. Continue to do so (and while you are at it...look at Saudi spending. Man, they probably can over iran in overnight! :lol:)

poor indians making a living fool out of their poor country again..Another day at PDF



LOL, oh no the MKI's again...that super duper plane which was literally f*cked by USAF's regulars in Nevada.

Pakistan's modern/upgraded F-16s armed with some of the best BVRs in the world are enough defensive answers to anything IAF can put it air. You folks act as if su-30's are somehow LEAGUE ahead than our assets...

Dude, Su-30's are a big, bulky planes and no stealth bombers. Stop embarrassing yourself...

And again, if the gap was so big..iaf would have atleast did one surgical strike in Pak. But they didn't. Because even if successful, that surgical strike would have invited a response---for which indian government didn't have any appetite..so rants like yours only make india as a gutless, toothless nation which is so embarrassing.

IF india really had the type of advantage you dream of, we would have seen it. Fact is it doesn't have such advantage..


Rafaels would be a game changer IF we didn't do our own further developments. Let Rafaels be deployed in iaf...and then we'll see.

Change the status quo? You mean like how India is courting all countries around Pakistan and surrounding Pakistan efficiently and quietly?

Its been years and Pakistanis still stick to that piece of propaganda to sate their inferiority complex.
That USAF Nevada nonsense has already been debunked, IAF did whoop USAF in the wargames which we again did in Cope India.
One Redneck who had no part in the war games except as a spectator and didn't know the engines from the canards of the Sukhois was only ranting for other "has beens", he never represented the USAF who distanced themselves from his stupidity. But sure stick to it.

If Su-30s were so Bulky and shit then why is your daddy(China) buying it in Bulk?
All of Sukhois' its elements are superior to F-16s', be it radar, manueveerabilitiy(TVC, Canards), ability to carry more missiles, travel longer distances, passive detection etc.

Why India doesn't do Surgical strikes?
See unlike Pakistan, we are not warmongers. But don't worry, when our conventional superiority will be so much larger than yours hopefully after 2020, then we'll think about it.
We unlike you only want a war with complete victory not sporadic and continuous failures like you have had since the 40s.

India is a BRIC nation with the fastest growth rate in the world, whereas Pakistan an economically backward nation, you lot are still desperately waiting for something to happen in your economy, putting all your eggs in the CPEC basket letting China experiment their Africa module in Pakistan and letting them off with a shit load money.
 
Exactly!! :)

Unless one force develops an overwhelming conventional superiority ( something like 1 to 5 ratio in terms of comparable weapons, trained officers/soldiers, and extreme difference in quality of weapons deployed--something like 100's of Stealth bombers/fighters vs non-stealth fighter jets etc)---there is no way anybody can invade the other side and come out alive himself..)

Status-quo remains!!

This will give us a chance consolidate our infrastructure, develop our energy resources, take our literacy rates to 80%-90% range by educating our masses, and strengthen the Islamic civilization, culture, and presence in our homeland for which our ancestors struggled and gave their lives.

The civilizational spread and consolidation of Islam has been remarkable after the establishment of Islamic Republic in Western lands of Indian subcontinent (these lands were historically sparsely populated compared to the 'core' of Indian subcontinent which forms modern India. This was because of the rigid geography, continuous invasions, mountainous terrain, lack of interconnectivity, and so on. All of this made the existence of an sprawling civilization exceedingly hard in these parts. But this has now been changed thanks to the hardwork of Muslim Pakistanis who have developed this land and brought it on par with resourceful inner core of Indian subcontinent in terms of sustaining huge populations).

At the time of independence,

1951, For every ~9.6 Indian Hindus, there was 1 (West) Pakistani Muslim

Give us 35 more years or so, where there's no major interruption (no mass invasions etc) in the established life of our lands....and by 2050, for every 4.75 Hindus, there would be 1 Pakistani Muslim (Inshallah).

That would be a great achievement in terms of establishing vast civilization in lands where it wasn't possible before--and cutting the difference with "core" established population in resourceful heartlands by more than half!-----all of that while increasing our incomes and improving our standards of living all at the same time.

Pakistan military's capability to discourage foreign invasions and avoid extreme internal security fallouts (something like Syria today!) have played an absolutely key role in giving us the chance to rise to our potential and succeed is establishing a thriving national-Islamic civilisation and culture in such harsh and challenging environments (something everybody thought was not possible post independence...when we did not have enough resources to provide paper clips to our government officers working in bureaucracy).

With CPEC's projects---such as extensive multiple lanes' road networks across all our provinces, huge industrial zones, construction of $35 billion worth of energy projects---going on full throttle, and newly drafted political reforms seeking to make FATA (Tribal regions) part of our KPK province---Pakistan is well on its path to completely integrate and mainstream even it's farthest, most restive pockets of populations--and emerge as a powerful and united Islamic nation-state with 200 million population, Islamic identity,culture and constitution, and 750,000 men standing military armed to teeth backed by nuclear command forces capable of unleashing unimaginable destruction thousands of kilometers away, if need be.

Mashallah to all of that..

This status quo is possesses huge benfits for Hindus as well...

While Pakistan's founding father defined Pakistan not by it's indic culture, but by it's Islamic core.Effectively, Pakistan became a part of the global Islamic Civilization (as discussed above)...

Snapshot of global Islamic Civilization today

Famous international historians, such as Bernard Lewis, have stated the fact that there have been thousands of cultures, peoples, civilizations in recorded human history--- but only two peoples/cultures have established a global civilization:

1- Islamic Civilization established by Muslims
2-Christian-Western Civilization established by Christianized Europeans

In modern times, Western civilization lost it's "christian" zeal and has become completely secular/post-christian.Not a single nation-state in Western World has its constitution explicitly based on Christianity. Legal codes and public lives are not based on Christianity or Christian expectations. Sexual morality, dressing, and even institutions like marriage, divorce, child-bearing etc. have become completely independent of Christianity and any Christian influence in public life has faded in Western World.

However, Islamic Civilization remained ardently "Islamic" and maintained it's global Islamic identity. Islam maintained the central role in global Islamic Civilization. Whereever Islam exists, it exerts huge influence. Its part of constitutions of various Muslim nations, Islamic law directly inspires law-codes of various nation-states and even forms the basis of global inter-governmental institutions like OIC (which is the second largest international institution of the world after UN). Furthermore, Islam continues to shape the daily lives (personal and public) of literally billions of people across Islamic World. Islam plays central role in societies, politics, and cultures various countries/societies of global Islamic Civilization. It shapes the behaviors of billions of people across the world when it comes to sexuality, dress-codes, public behavior, social tastes, gender-relations, worldview, and even personal cleanliness.

So while Pakistani Muslims are a part of a global civilization with global cultural, political, economic, and social presence ranging across continents!---Hindus have only one home in this entire universe--and that's India.

And for the first time in history, Hindus possess complete control of their destiny in their homeland, have the mightiest of the military machine they ever built, and are making an effort to stand amongst the top nations on global level! The status preserving peace in India, and discouraging any foreign invasion of India from historically what has been the "Western frontier"---Hindus today stands the best chance to fullfil their collective desire of establishing a thriving culture (elbeit in a secular environment) in their historical homeland with peace and no fear of outside invasion by more powerful forces of global civilizations (Islamic and Christian/European).

With every JF-17 rolling out of kamra, with every new BVR missile being deployed by PAF, with every Brahmos integrated on Su-30s, with every new Al Khalid tank rolling out of HiT, and every new missile being tested by Indian Army units---the status-quo is only becoming harder and harder to breach in terms of classical military warfare.

And as you said, that is a win-win situation for India, especially Islamic Pakistan, and the wider region as well...

:pakistan:

Chicha...YOU SURLY WILL DIE CRYING ...HINDU HINDU HINDU.
 

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