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Fifth Generation Indo-Russian Fighter Aircraft to be Ready by 2017
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Malay will the new engine also solve the lower MTBO problem for the MKI's?
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Hopefully. Although i have no data at hand, i am inclined to say that it definitely will. One of the selling points of the MiG 35 was that the MBTO of MiG 35 is far superior to the MiG 29's. That the Russian industry now makes engines that are comparable to the west in terms of MBTO. And also considering that the Su-35BM is the newest Russian fighter on the block designed keeping western maintenance concepts in mind and rectifying problems experienced with the AL-31F, it flows logically that it would rectify the low MBTO problem of the MKI's.
Incidentally, the Russians were designing this engine as the engine for their PAKFA. But the requisite thrust requirements were not met, so they are now making a completely new engine. But again, it follows that this engine would be much superior to the AL-31F.
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India, Russia give final shape to FGFA designs
New Delhi, Aug 18: In a bid to catch up with advances in fighter aircraft designs in the US and Europe, top Indian and Russian defence officials met here today to give final shape to the configuration and design of the planned joint futuristic fifth generation fighter.
The new fighter could cost anything between USD 10 and 12 billion, Indian officials want the aircraft to have super stealth and a very high degree network centricity.
Besides finalising the design of the fighter, the two-day meeting of the top Indian and Russian officials are also holding intensive dialogue to iron out the differences which have recently crept into the bilateral military ties.
The meeting is taking place in the backdrop of the two countries coming close to renegotiating the key Gorshkov aircraft carrier deal, with New Delhi agreeing to a staggering US 2 billion dollar hike for the warship.
Indian officials said a package deal, which had been finalised, was about to be put up to the Union Cabinet for approval.
"In some aspects, we are trying to renegotiate," a top official said. Elaborating, he said, that Moscow's demand for USD 400 million to undertake final trials of the carrier, were "felt to be too high". :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::
New Delhi, Aug 18: In a bid to catch up with advances in fighter aircraft designs in the US and Europe, top Indian and Russian defence officials met here today to give final shape to the configuration and design of the planned joint futuristic fifth generation fighter.
The new fighter could cost anything between USD 10 and 12 billion, Indian officials want the aircraft to have super stealth and a very high degree network centricity.
Besides finalising the design of the fighter, the two-day meeting of the top Indian and Russian officials are also holding intensive dialogue to iron out the differences which have recently crept into the bilateral military ties.
The meeting is taking place in the backdrop of the two countries coming close to renegotiating the key Gorshkov aircraft carrier deal, with New Delhi agreeing to a staggering US 2 billion dollar hike for the warship.
Indian officials said a package deal, which had been finalised, was about to be put up to the Union Cabinet for approval.
"In some aspects, we are trying to renegotiate," a top official said. Elaborating, he said, that Moscow's demand for USD 400 million to undertake final trials of the carrier, were "felt to be too high". :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::
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Everything seems to be falling in place like solving a big jigsaw puzzle like some days before air chief saying "6 squadrons of LCA by 2018", Navy chief calling for "400 planes in Navy" and DRDO director telling about potential of LCA "400 for IAF 100 for navy in NLCA format" etc etc.
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guys check this info
some info about PAK FA from chinese internet
Translated version of http://news.qq.com/a/20080818/001651.htm
some info about PAK FA from chinese internet
Translated version of http://news.qq.com/a/20080818/001651.htm
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guys check this :
India?s build-up of air power in the east - upiasiaonline.com
India’s build-up of air power in the east
By Andrei Chang
Column: Military Might
Hong Kong, China — All along its western border with China, especially in the area north of New Delhi, India has been building a series of airports and military bases in an obvious effort to strengthen its defenses against its increasingly powerful neighbor.
There are three military airports in the central part of the border area, two of which are large air bases. Along the western part of the border there are 11 airports that could lend support to the Indian Air Force in the event of an attack upon Tibet. These include airports at Patna, Bihta, Varanasi, Lucknow, Kanpur, Bareilly and Adampur.
At the Bakshi-Ka-Talab Air Base near Bareilly, observers have spotted nine Su-30K fighter aircraft. Under normal circumstances, three or more MiG-25R aircraft are stationed here, for use by the No. 102 Reconnaissance Squadron in operations along India’s western border with China. This airport, which belongs to the Indian Air Force’s No. 35 and No. 102 squadrons, has extensive facilities including reinforced aircraft hangars, and is located no more than 600 kilometers (373 miles) from the India-China border.
There is another large airbase not far away at Ambala, with 35 reinforced aircraft hangers. Less than 400 kilometers (about 250 miles) from the border with China, it is the closest attack base to Tibet. The Indian Air Defense Force’s No. 5 Squadron is based here, with a fleet of Jaguar attackers. There are also at least two SAM-2/3 surface-to-air missile positions at this base.
At nearby Chandigarh, at least 13 reinforced aircraft hangars and one SAM-3 missile position have been built. This is an airport primarily for military transport aircraft as well as Mi-17/Mi-8 helicopters belonging to the No. 3 Air Base warehouse. There are at least two IL-76 transport aircraft, 13 AN-32 transport planes and one heavy-lift Mi-26 helicopter fielded at this airport. This deployment suggests that the Indian military is highly aware of the need to airlift troops to the Tibet region should a conflict erupt between the two countries.
The Amritsar Air Base is very close to the India-Pakistan border, but it is also adjacent to the western part of the India-China border. A total of 29 reinforced aircraft hangars have been built at this airport.
In the event of a conflict with China, Indian military units stationed along the eastern part of the India-China border could make full use of the 13 military and civilian airports in the border region. Helicopters and transport planes could quickly deliver troops to the scene of the conflict, and fighter aircraft could use these airports for take-off and landing.
Among all these airport facilities, the Tezpur Airport has the most modern, full-fledged installations. It is here that eight Su-30MKI multi-role fighters are due to be positioned in the next few months.
The Gwalior Airport south of New Delhi is the gateway for the Indian Air Force’s strategic bombers. The No. 1 and No. 7 Nuclear Attack Squadrons – armed with Mirage 2000H/TH fighters – are stationed at this air base. Several Jaguar attackers have also been seen fielded at this airport, which has very sturdy aircraft hangers.
The Gwalior Air Base is less than 550 kilometers (340 miles) from the India-Tibet border and about 500 kilometers (310 miles) from the India-Pakistan border. This indicates that India pays equal attention to China and Pakistan in deploying its nuclear attack power.
The No. 24 and No. 20 Squadrons, stationed at the Lohegaon Air Base near Pune, are armed with Su-30K and Su-30MKI fighters. The No. 20 Squadron received its first Su-30MKI fighters between 2000 and 2004. The earlier model Su-30K fighters, received from Russia in 1997 and 1998, are scheduled to be returned to Russia in exchange for a new batch of 18 Su-30MKIs.
The two squadrons are now equipped with 39 Su-30MKI Phase I/II fighters. It looks as if the Su-30MKI fighters soon to be deployed at the Tezpur Air Base will also be Phase II Su-30MKIs assembled in India.
The No. 20 Squadron is the best fighter unit of the Indian Air Force, equivalent to the 9th Regiment of the Chinese PLA Air Force’s No. 3 Division. It is based in the southern part of the region, apparently positioned as the air force’s strategic reserve unit.
Yet oddly, no reinforced aircraft hangars have been built for the Su-30MKIs at this airport. Instead, the aircraft are stationed on an open apron. Considering the hot weather conditions in South India the reason for this is unclear. There are also several Jaguar attackers fielded here.
The extensive build-up of airports in the border region, the performance features of the aircraft deployed there and the capability to quickly project troops in the area show that New Delhi’s apprehensions about a threat from the north are quite strong. Still, India now has a clear advantage over China in terms of preparedness for a conflict in this region.
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(Andrei Chang is editor-in-chief of Kanwa Defense Review Monthly, registered in Toronto, Canada.)
India?s build-up of air power in the east - upiasiaonline.com
India’s build-up of air power in the east
By Andrei Chang
Column: Military Might
Hong Kong, China — All along its western border with China, especially in the area north of New Delhi, India has been building a series of airports and military bases in an obvious effort to strengthen its defenses against its increasingly powerful neighbor.
There are three military airports in the central part of the border area, two of which are large air bases. Along the western part of the border there are 11 airports that could lend support to the Indian Air Force in the event of an attack upon Tibet. These include airports at Patna, Bihta, Varanasi, Lucknow, Kanpur, Bareilly and Adampur.
At the Bakshi-Ka-Talab Air Base near Bareilly, observers have spotted nine Su-30K fighter aircraft. Under normal circumstances, three or more MiG-25R aircraft are stationed here, for use by the No. 102 Reconnaissance Squadron in operations along India’s western border with China. This airport, which belongs to the Indian Air Force’s No. 35 and No. 102 squadrons, has extensive facilities including reinforced aircraft hangars, and is located no more than 600 kilometers (373 miles) from the India-China border.
There is another large airbase not far away at Ambala, with 35 reinforced aircraft hangers. Less than 400 kilometers (about 250 miles) from the border with China, it is the closest attack base to Tibet. The Indian Air Defense Force’s No. 5 Squadron is based here, with a fleet of Jaguar attackers. There are also at least two SAM-2/3 surface-to-air missile positions at this base.
At nearby Chandigarh, at least 13 reinforced aircraft hangars and one SAM-3 missile position have been built. This is an airport primarily for military transport aircraft as well as Mi-17/Mi-8 helicopters belonging to the No. 3 Air Base warehouse. There are at least two IL-76 transport aircraft, 13 AN-32 transport planes and one heavy-lift Mi-26 helicopter fielded at this airport. This deployment suggests that the Indian military is highly aware of the need to airlift troops to the Tibet region should a conflict erupt between the two countries.
The Amritsar Air Base is very close to the India-Pakistan border, but it is also adjacent to the western part of the India-China border. A total of 29 reinforced aircraft hangars have been built at this airport.
In the event of a conflict with China, Indian military units stationed along the eastern part of the India-China border could make full use of the 13 military and civilian airports in the border region. Helicopters and transport planes could quickly deliver troops to the scene of the conflict, and fighter aircraft could use these airports for take-off and landing.
Among all these airport facilities, the Tezpur Airport has the most modern, full-fledged installations. It is here that eight Su-30MKI multi-role fighters are due to be positioned in the next few months.
The Gwalior Airport south of New Delhi is the gateway for the Indian Air Force’s strategic bombers. The No. 1 and No. 7 Nuclear Attack Squadrons – armed with Mirage 2000H/TH fighters – are stationed at this air base. Several Jaguar attackers have also been seen fielded at this airport, which has very sturdy aircraft hangers.
The Gwalior Air Base is less than 550 kilometers (340 miles) from the India-Tibet border and about 500 kilometers (310 miles) from the India-Pakistan border. This indicates that India pays equal attention to China and Pakistan in deploying its nuclear attack power.
The No. 24 and No. 20 Squadrons, stationed at the Lohegaon Air Base near Pune, are armed with Su-30K and Su-30MKI fighters. The No. 20 Squadron received its first Su-30MKI fighters between 2000 and 2004. The earlier model Su-30K fighters, received from Russia in 1997 and 1998, are scheduled to be returned to Russia in exchange for a new batch of 18 Su-30MKIs.
The two squadrons are now equipped with 39 Su-30MKI Phase I/II fighters. It looks as if the Su-30MKI fighters soon to be deployed at the Tezpur Air Base will also be Phase II Su-30MKIs assembled in India.
The No. 20 Squadron is the best fighter unit of the Indian Air Force, equivalent to the 9th Regiment of the Chinese PLA Air Force’s No. 3 Division. It is based in the southern part of the region, apparently positioned as the air force’s strategic reserve unit.
Yet oddly, no reinforced aircraft hangars have been built for the Su-30MKIs at this airport. Instead, the aircraft are stationed on an open apron. Considering the hot weather conditions in South India the reason for this is unclear. There are also several Jaguar attackers fielded here.
The extensive build-up of airports in the border region, the performance features of the aircraft deployed there and the capability to quickly project troops in the area show that New Delhi’s apprehensions about a threat from the north are quite strong. Still, India now has a clear advantage over China in terms of preparedness for a conflict in this region.
--
(Andrei Chang is editor-in-chief of Kanwa Defense Review Monthly, registered in Toronto, Canada.)
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The guy has basically listed almost all the airports in North India. Most of these airports are of no operational significance incase IAF has to attack China.
The airports and roads of real significance against China are just being built now
The airports and roads of real significance against China are just being built now
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Sukhoi/HAL FGFA - HAL, UAC Sign Pact to Develop Fifth Generation Fighter Jet
Dated 29/12/2008
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) inked a pact to jointly develop and produce a fifth generation fighter aircraft, a top HAL official said on Tuesday. "We (HAL and UAC) are moving forward as per schedule. We (have) just done the general contract yesterday. I went to Delhi and signed the general contract," HAL Chairman Ashok K Baweja said.
HAL officials noted that under a preliminary inter-governmental agreement signed in October last year, the advanced multi-role fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, part of UAC, along with the Bangalore-headquartered defence PSU.
According to reports, Russia and India would simultaneously develop two versions of the aircraft -- a two-seat version to meet the requirements of India and a single seat version for Russian Air Force. UAC had begun building a prototype of the jet fighter which would feature high manoeuvrability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets, reports said.
Asked about the proposed investment in the venture, Baweja said it was very difficult to say at this stage and added: "It will be quite a lot". He told reporters on the sidelines of the celebrations of HAL Day that the Navratna company has put on the back burner its MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul of civil aircraft) venture plans at HAL airport following a slowdown in the world civil aviation market.
Sukhoi/HAL FGFA - HAL, UAC Sign Pact to Develop Fifth Generation Fighter Jet | India Defence
Dated 29/12/2008
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) inked a pact to jointly develop and produce a fifth generation fighter aircraft, a top HAL official said on Tuesday. "We (HAL and UAC) are moving forward as per schedule. We (have) just done the general contract yesterday. I went to Delhi and signed the general contract," HAL Chairman Ashok K Baweja said.
HAL officials noted that under a preliminary inter-governmental agreement signed in October last year, the advanced multi-role fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, part of UAC, along with the Bangalore-headquartered defence PSU.
According to reports, Russia and India would simultaneously develop two versions of the aircraft -- a two-seat version to meet the requirements of India and a single seat version for Russian Air Force. UAC had begun building a prototype of the jet fighter which would feature high manoeuvrability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets, reports said.
Asked about the proposed investment in the venture, Baweja said it was very difficult to say at this stage and added: "It will be quite a lot". He told reporters on the sidelines of the celebrations of HAL Day that the Navratna company has put on the back burner its MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul of civil aircraft) venture plans at HAL airport following a slowdown in the world civil aviation market.
Sukhoi/HAL FGFA - HAL, UAC Sign Pact to Develop Fifth Generation Fighter Jet | India Defence
Indians will be finished inducting 230 su30 mki by 2015-2016 around 150 su30 mki will built in india.
The PAK FA i believe will start entering service around 2018... around 2 years after the flanker induction finishes.
Hopefully LCA mk1 will run along side su30 mki til 2015.
And hen LCA MK2 WILL RUN ALONSIDE PAK FA from 2015
The PAK FA i believe will start entering service around 2018... around 2 years after the flanker induction finishes.
Hopefully LCA mk1 will run along side su30 mki til 2015.
And hen LCA MK2 WILL RUN ALONSIDE PAK FA from 2015
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The guy has basically listed almost all the airports in North India. Most of these airports are of no operational significance incase IAF has to attack China.
The airports and roads of real significance against China are just being built now
ha ha ha .....I am afraid to hear the news
the real issue is how many jokes our Indian friends wanna play.
they have been working on their Land Crashing Aircraft for decades, nothing got ready yet, now they are rolling out this "fifth generation" fighter. what a huge load of junk?!
the important thing in any R&D is to get some useful results and make sure your projects actually get concluded in reasonable time. Indian friends just couldn't understand such rules.
The guy has basically listed almost all the airports in North India. Most of these airports are of no operational significance incase IAF has to attack China.
The airports and roads of real significance against China are just being built now
The airports and roads of real significance against China are just being built now
The MBTs of real significance against China are just being built now
The fighters of real significance against China are just being built now
could you please just tell me what you have on hand now other than these ongoing projects?
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