F-35 in new dogfight over Chinese, Russian stealth technology

[500]

Doubtful, any modern fighter comes with all around IR sensors, RWR or AESA radar. The Chinese even copied EOTS, although that hardly is a big advantage anyway and Chinese and Russian fighters are suppose to have a proper IRST contrary to the F35, besides the IR missiles to use it.

US is a world leader in these fields by a large margin. Russia for example still does not have any operational AESA radar and does not have any operational FLIR targeting system (like Litening or Sniper). Neither Russian nor Chinese will have a system like DAS. Neither Russian nor Chinese have HMD taking a role of HUD. Pakfa does not have EOTS. Chinese do copy EOTS. but copy never will be same as original.

Again doubtful, J20 and the T50 should offer more in both areas, not to forget that the range requirements were not met and reduced during the development.

F-35 currently is the only stealth fighter with proven 2000 lb internal carriage capability. It has also huge internal fuel - similar to much larger F-22.

 

[Superboy]

But F-35 has DSI and J-20 doesn't.

yea it does

 

[sancho]

US is a world leader in these fields by a large margin. Russia for example still does not have any operational AESA radar and does not have any operational FLIR targeting system (like Litening or Sniper).

No they are not, Israeli and European avionics are at least on par if not better and claiming they are the best doesn't mean they will remain to be. We know how capable Russian PESAs are and that they already have developed AESAs, only because they are not operational doesn't make them less capable, or do you think the EL 2052 is bad as well?
They do have targeting systems on bombers or the Mig 35, more important however is, if you need it! You don't need laser guidance for ARM, or sat guided bombs right? Which makes the benefit of EOTS very limited in most cases, in fact it will be just added weight in most roles and when they aim on doing CAS with external payloads, it hardly makes sense to integrate the targeting pod.

Neither Russian nor Chinese will have a system like DAS.

You might want to check that, especially at latest Su 35 and Mig 35 varients.

F-35 currently is the only stealth fighter with proven 2000 lb internal carriage capability.

So because we know the internal capacity of the F35 it must be superior to J20 and T50?

 

[500]

No they are not, Israeli and European avionics are at least on par if not better and claiming they are the best doesn't mean they will remain to be.

US is better, they are one step ahead. Europeans still work on their first AESA, US operates them for decade.

We know how capable Russian PESAs are and that they already have developed AESAs, only because they are not operational doesn't make them less capable, or do you think the EL 2052 is bad as well?

Not as good as APG-77/81. These are one step ahead over other AESA like APG-79/80..

They do have targeting systems on bombers or the Mig 35, more important however is, if you need it! You don't need laser guidance for ARM, or sat guided bombs right? Which makes the benefit of EOTS very limited in most cases, in fact it will be just added weight in most roles and when they aim on doing CAS with external payloads, it hardly makes sense to integrate the targeting pod.

Both B-1 and B-52 carry Snipers or Litenings.

EOTS also crucial during night low level flights. In short its is must for modern bomber.

So because we know the internal capacity of the F35 it must be superior to J20 and T50?

F-35 is the only 5 gen fighter with proven capability. Lets wait and see when/if other prove it too.

 

[Superboy]

F-35 is the only 5 gen fighter with proven capability. Lets wait and see when/if other prove it too.

F-35 is proven?

 

[gambit]

F-35 is proven?

Yeah...The F-35 may be a machine, but I am confident that the jet is smarter than YOU.

 

[MightyDragon]

F-35 is proven?

F-35 is proven to be overweighted, underpowered and not fast enough

 

[KAL-EL]

F-35 is proven to be overweighted, underpowered and not fast enough

Yes,we know...your supa dupa powa is 100 times better!! US Air Force is the worst in the world