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The Indian Air Force (IAF) ranked 4th is one of the largest in the world both in quantity of aircraft and personal. After Independence in 1947, it had been in confrontation with much smaller Pakistan Air Force (PAF), which is said to be one third the size of the IAF. But despite enjoying an overwhelming advantage, the IAF has a very poor and even depressing record against the PAF. Historians and defence analyst acknowledge that the IAF has never been able to deliver in it's history except perhaps during the Kargil conflict when it conducted operations within it's own side of LOC over a well demarcated area and obviously no air opposition.
Let's analyse the IAF's performance during it's conflict and skirmishes against the PAF.

1: On 4 November 1948, two IAF Hawker Tempest fighter aircraft attacked a PAF Dakota transport aircraft on supply missions, they repeatedly attacked the slow aircraft for 25 minutes but failed to shoot it down due to superior handling by the PAF pilot.

2: 10th April 1959 was a Red letter day in the history of PAF as an IAF Canberra reconnaissance aircraft intruded into Pakistan air space on Eid Day, thinking the PAF along with rest of Pakistan will be in festive mood and relaxing, however it was intercepted by a PAF F-86 Sabre who put around 1200 bullets into the Indian aircraft sending it spiralling out of control with it's crew later being captured.

3: 24 June 1965, an Ouragan Fighter/Bomber called Toofani by the IAF, strays into Pakistan and is intercepted and forced down by PAF fighters. Later the IAF aircraft is found to be fully armed.

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1965 War.

On September 1, 1965, the IAF launched its first strikes against a Pakistani invasion at Chhamb, near Jammu. 12 Vampires and 14 Mystere fighter-bombers were thrown in, which began shooting up Indian tanks from 20 Lancers, which was opposing the Pakistani advance. Twenty Lancers officers recount their relief when the PAF Sabres swooped down on the IAF, shooting down four Vampires. A shocked IAF grounded its Vampire and Toofani squadrons, reducing its strength by one-third.

3rd September : Perhaps first time in aerial warfare history, an IAF pilot air surrenders his Gnat fighter jet when confronted by a PAF F-104, and lands his aircraft in Pakistan, today the Gnat is preserved and displayed in PAF Museum.

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PAF’s air strike on 6th September, 1965 on the Indian Air Force base of Pathankot has been rated by historians and defence analysts of both Indian and Pakistan as one of the most successful air raids of contemporary history. Over a dozen IAF aircraft including several MiG-21s were destroyed on the ground.


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September 7 saw a debacle in the eastern theatre, where the PAF had only a single squadron of Sabres. Early morning IAF raids on Chittagong and Jessore achieved nothing. However, a retaliatory PAF raid devastated the IAF's Kalaikunda base, in West Bengal, destroying 14 aircraft on the ground mostly Canberra bombers thus PAF squadron earning nick name of ''Tail Choppers''.
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Also on 7th September the IAF tried to strike back on PAF bases and in due course PAF saw it's first Ace when one of it's pilot shot down five IAF Hunters in a single sortie.

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1971 Air War.

During this war, the PAF had one single squadron of F-86 Sabres, stationed in East Pakistan. This single PAF unit faced Ten IAF squadrons, three of which were equipped with the latest MiG-21s while others had SU-7, Hunters, Gnats as well as bombers on strength. The single PAF squadron was grounded within few days of war due to it's single runway being damaged. Before being grounded, No 14 squadron PAF in aerial engagements, shot down 11 IAF aircraft for the loss of five of it's own. However what is astonishing is that in subsequent two weeks of non stop raids on the PAF airfield, , the IAF failed to destroy even a single grounded Sabre but in process lost 17 more aircraft to Pakistani ground fire.

Last Air Battle of 1971 War.
The last air battle of 1971 war between PAF and IAF took place on 17th December. The encounter involved a humble PAF F-86 Sabre against a Supersonic MIG-21 of the IAF.
Flt Lt. Maqsood Amir emerged the victorious pilot when he shot down the MIG-21, No C 116 through a missile attack.
The Indian pilot was captured after ejecting from his stricken aircraft.

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To Be Continued......
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3rd September : Perhaps first time in aerial warfare history, an IAF pilot air surrenders his Gnat fighter jet when confronted by a PAF F-104, and lands his aircraft in Pakistan, today the Gnat is preserved and displayed in PAF Museum.

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Gnat's pilot surrender was taken by a Pakistani Military doctor.

 
Kargil Conflict.
The Kargil war was fought between India and Pakistan from May 3 to July 26 1999 - at one of the highest battlefields in the world. It was a relative ground affair with limited involvement of airpower. Both air forces remained confined to within own airspace, the IAF once or twice transgressed into Pakistan airspace and paid the price.

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The one before Abhinandan, Flt. Lt. Nachiiketa was taken POW.

27th May : One IAF MiG-21 and one MiG-27 aircraft are shot down by Anza surface-to-air missiles of the Pakistan Army's Air Defence Corps. Flt. Lt. Kambampati Nachiketa (pilot of the MiG-27) is captured by a Pakistani patrol and given POW status (released on 3 June 1999). The pilot of MiG-21 was killed.

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28th May : One IAF Mi-17 is shot down by Pakistani forces; four crew members are killed.

19th February 2002. A lot of dust was kicked up when an IAF AN-32 Transport aircraft carrying Air Marshal VK Bhatia CIC Western Air Command strayed into Pakistan airspace and was hit by a Pakistani missile knocking out one of it's engine. The aircraft had to make an emergency landing.

June 07, 2002 , PAF makes history by shooting down IAF's Searcher-II Israeli made spy drone during middle of the night.


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Don't forget that Indian Airforce did not go and support the Indian Army during 1962 Sino-Indian war as they had a turf war between them.
On 27 February, 2019 - IAF lost a MIG-21 and a SU-30MKI to PAF
 
absolutely no proof on this kill
You do have some issues with everything what Pakistan claims....have you got your flags right.
Don't forget that Indian Airforce did not go and support the Indian Army during 1962 Sino-Indian war as they had a turf war between them.
On 27 February, 2019 - IAF lost a MIG-21 and a SU-30MKI to PAF
I will be covering those in a separate chapter.
 
absolutely no proof on this kill

There is proof if you look for it

1) Debris of AMRAAM missile fired by PAF F-16 that shot down the SU-30MKI. The fact that the AMRAAM exploded indicates that it hit the SU-30 MKI fighter. This press conference was indeed a self goal by the IAF.

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2) IAF has ordered 12 SU-30 MKI as replacement when only 11 SU-30 MKI have officially crashed. The 12th SU-30 MKI replacement was for the one that IAF lost to PAF.

Govt approves buying 21 MiG-29, 12 Su-30 fighter jets to add teeth to IAF


 
You do have some issues with everything what Pakistan claims....have you got your flags right.

I just don't like jingoistic nonsense from pakistanis

1) Debris of AMRAAM missile fired by PAF F-16 that shot down the SU-30MKI. The fact that the AMRAAM exploded indicates that it hit the SU-30 MKI fighter. This press conference was indeed a self goal by the IAF.

we don't know if it hit the flanker or not. we don't know what the intended target was. we don't even know if it really was fired from PAF jet in the first place loooool

2) IAF is ordered 12 SU-30 MKI as replacement when only 11 SU-30 MKI have officially crashed. The 12th SU-30 MKI replacement was for the one that IAF lost to PAF.


Again - we don't know that. The SU-30 has a terrible record of being grounded on and off and it has seen it's share of crashes as well.
 
I just don't like jingoistic nonsense from pakistanis



we don't know if it hit the flanker or not. we don't know what the intended target was. we don't even know if it really was fired from PAF jet in the first place loooool




Again - we don't know that. The SU-30 has a terrible record of being grounded on and off and it has seen it's share of crashes as well.


We know why they were procured. Here is the excerpt

The 12 Su-30 MKIs are meant to make up for the gaps in the Su-30MKI squadrons caused due to crashes over the years.

The Hindu Explains | How is India building up the squadron strength of its air force?


Here is the list of 11 SU-30 MKIs that have crashed.

Now tell me why did the IAF order 12 SU-30 MKI replacements?



Aircraft Type
Tail NoPilot/CrewPhoto
Unit​
Remarks
30 Apr 09Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-021Wg Cdr Siddharth Vishwas Munje
Wg Cdr Pushpendra Singh Nara +
Click to View Record Click to View RecordCr in Rajasthan after pilot inadvertantly switched
30 Nov 09Sukhoi Su-30 MKIWg Cdr A Shrivastava
Flt Lt Arora
HAL Built example. The aircraft from Pune was on i
13 Dec 11Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-142Wg Cdr Gurkirat Singh SohalClick to View RecordCrashed at Wade-Bholai village near Pune
19 Apr 12Sukhoi Su-30 MKI
Possibly Repaired Routine training flight. Nose undercarriage proble
19 Feb 13Sukhoi Su-30 MKI
Cr at Pokharan Range at 1920 hours. Defective bomb
14 Oct 14Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-050Wg Cdr Siddharth Vishwas Munje
Fg Offr Anup Kumar
Click to View Record
Premature Ejection on approach to Lohegaon
19 May 15Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-137Cr Laokhowa Tezpur 1230Hrs
15 Mar 17Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-149
TD + HE(A). Cr Shivlarkudla village, Barmer. Pilot
23 May 17Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-063Flt Lt Achudev Sahadevan +
Sqn Ldr Divesh Pankaj +
Click to View RecordHE(A) + HE(SS). Crashed in Dense forests, CFIT, pi
27 Jun 18Sukhoi Su-30 MKI
HAL
Approximate latitude 20.20 N, longitude 74.08 E n
08 Aug 19Sukhoi Su-30 MKISB-062UI (HE(A))



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