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While the whole world is laughing at Pakistan again.

PM on medical leave in London

Foreign office giving a bull shit statement after 36 hours

DG ISPR enjoying weekend

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We are playing the proxy game inside Afghanistan in utmost idiotic manner.

Americans and afghans are now thumping their chest after killing Mansoor on RCD highway, and making us naked yet again after OBL.


Where the hell is our intelligence and arm forces?

american have raped us again and again well inside our territory.

On this criminal negligence on behalf of our arm forces and intellugence agencies,
Will commander southern command, ISI chief and Raheel Shareef dare to resign showing some degree of
responsibility and grace.

Any way, where is DG tweeter why you are not updating your status .

Let's be sure and ready for yet another judicial Inquiry drama this time again.
 
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PM on medical leave in London

Foreign office giving a bull shit statement after 36 hours

DG ISPR enjoying weekend

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We are playing the proxy game inside Afghanistan in utmost idiotic manner.

Americans and afghans are now thumping their chest after killing Mansoor on RCD highway, and making us naked yet again after OBL.


Where the hell is our intelligence and arm forces?

american have raped us again and again well inside our territory.

On this criminal negligence on behalf of our arm forces and intellugence agencies,
Will commander southern command, ISI chief and Raheel Shareef dare to resign showing some degree of
responsibility and grace.

Any way, where is DG tweeter why you are not updating your status .

Let's be sure and ready for yet another judicial Inquiry drama this time again.

Dear brother, if they killed Mansoor, its ok. Main thing is not killing of Mansoor, but they way they killed him. They attacked on our soil, that is wrong. Mansoor deserved that(so does many sitting in high offices and ranks in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and USA). But yeah, Pakistanis are again standing at zero, may be at negative, as now, Taliban will never believe us, and it will be impossible for us to again bring them to talks. US again increased difficulties for us.
 
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Dear brother, if they killed Mansoor, its ok. Main thing is not killing of Mansoor, but they way they killed him. They attacked on our soil, that is wrong. Mansoor deserved that. But yeah, Pakistanis are again standing at zero, may be at negative, as now, Taliban will never believe us, and it will be impossible for us to again bring them to talks. US again increased difficulties for us.

Like the drone attacks in years past, may be, just possibly, Pakistan let this happened. I expect the FO to issue the standard disclaimers about sovereignty. :coffee:

My bad. Pakistan did know about the attack on Mansoor.

Pakistani leadership knew about US drone strike that killed Afghan Taliban chief: FO
AGENCIES | DAWN.COM | MATEEN HAIDER — PUBLISHED 5 MINUTES AGO

ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office confirmed on Sunday that the Pakistani leadership had been informed about the United States (US) drone strike in the country, which killed the Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Mansour a day earlier.

Mansour was reported killed in a drone strike in Balochistan near the Afghan border.

According to the statement issued by the Foreign Office, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif were informed about the drone strike that likely killed Mansour.

Related: Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Mansour killed in Balochistan

The statement adds: “According to the information gathered so far, a person named Wali Muhammad S/o Shah Muhammad carrying a Pakistani passport and an I.D. Card, resident of Qilla Abdullah, entered Pakistan from Taftan border on 21st May. His passport was bearing a valid Iranian visa. He was travelling on a vehicle hired from a transport company in Taftan. This vehicle was found destroyed at Kochaki along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The driver’s name was Muhammad Azam whose body has been identified and collected by his relatives. The identity of the second body is being verified on the basis of evidence found at the site of the incident and other relevant information.”

The statement adds that the drone attack was a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and said Islamabad wanted to remind the world that the fifth meeting of the Quadrilateral Coordination Group (QCG) held on May 18 had reiterated that a politically negotiated settlement was the only viable option for lasting peace in Afghanistan.

Two Pakistani intelligence officials earlier told AFP the drones struck a Toyota Corolla near Quetta, killing two people whose bodies were burned beyond recognition.

Related: Two charred bodies found near Pak-Afghan border in Balochistan

The FO’s statement comes hours after it said Pakistan was "seeking clarification" on the reported drone strike targeting Mansour.

Earlier on Sunday, US Secretary of State John Kerry also stated that he had notified Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif by telephone of a US drone strike that 'likely killed' Mullah Mansour.

The Afghan leadership was also apprised of the strike ordered by US President Barack Obama, Kerry said.

'Quite likely dead'
Moreover, a senior commander with the Afghan Taliban said Mansour was killed in a US drone strike. Mullah Abdul Rauf told The Associated Press Sunday that Mansour died in the strike late Friday night. He said the strike took place "in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area".

Two Pakistani intelligence officials told AFP the drones struck a Toyota Corolla near Quetta, killing two people whose bodies were burned beyond recognition.

They did not confirm whether Mansour was among them but said the bodies had been moved to a hospital in Quetta.

Separately, a member of the Quetta Shura, the Afghan Taliban's leadership council, told AFP that Mansour had been unreachable on his mobile phone since Saturday night.

"We are not sure if something is really wrong or he purposely switched off his phone fearing an attack," he told AFP on condition of anonymity.

Former ambassador to Afghanistan Rustam Shah Mohmand weighing in on the matter told DawnNews that it is "quite likely" Mansour is dead.

After Mansour's elimination
The drone attack came just days after representatives from the US, China, Pakistan and Afghanistan held another round of negotiations in Islamabad aimed at reviving long-stalled direct peace talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban.

The elimination of Mansour, who swiftly consolidated power following a bitter Taliban leadership struggle after the death of Mullah Omar was revealed last year, could spark new succession battles within the fractious movement.

It is possible there may be infighting in the Taliban regarding succession after Mansour's death, particularly between Mullah Omar's brother Mullah Abdul Manan and son Mullah Yaqub, and Sirajuddin Haqqani, the Haqqani network chief, Rustam Shah Mohmand said, as Haqqani was Mansour's deputy and operational commander.

The deaths of Taliban leaders have often been falsely reported, and Mansour himself was rumoured to have been killed last December.

Mansour was formally appointed head of the Afghan Taliban in July last year following the revelation that the group's founder Mullah Omar had been dead for two years.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1259986/pa...ne-strike-that-killed-afghan-taliban-chief-fo
 
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What is "shameless" about this. Can somebody elaborate? It's just another "own goal" by Pakistan like long list of other "own goals" like OBL, Abdul Qadri nuclear bazaar.
 
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While the whole world is laughing at Pakistan again.

PM on medical leave in London

Foreign office giving a bull shit statement after 36 hours

DG ISPR enjoying weekend

View attachment 306360 View attachment 306361

We are playing the proxy game inside Afghanistan in utmost idiotic manner.

Americans and afghans are now thumping their chest after killing Mansoor on RCD highway, and making us naked yet again after OBL.


Where the hell is our intelligence and arm forces?

american have raped us again and again well inside our territory.

On this criminal negligence on behalf of our arm forces and intellugence agencies,
Will commander southern command, ISI chief and Raheel Shareef dare to resign showing some degree of
responsibility and grace.

Any way, where is DG tweeter why you are not updating your status .

Let's be sure and ready for yet another judicial Inquiry drama this time again.
Dont be a parha likha jahil, Pakistan helps and authorize every US drone strike since last 10 years, Pakistan cannot take them themselves as we already have too many to handle and if afghan taliban also turns against us, then that will make it difficult.
Last month Pakistan did said that Taliban should talk otherwise you know whats the other option.
 
They attacked on our soil, that is wrong.
No it is not. Mansoor should not have been in Pakistan. OBL should not have been in Pakistan. They were wanted men by US. You either apprehend them and hand them over to US or you give them refuge in which you will have war with US.

You don't them hand them over and at the same time don't officially give them refuge you creating ambigiouty. That then allows US to do the dirty worlk itself. It is simple as that.

They attacked on our soil,
Well if he was not "on our soil" they would not have done that would they? If we did not let our sovereignty be openly violated by illegal people who are wanted men hiding inside Pakistan than all this would not happen. Fact is this guy was found on our sovereign soil. If you say to US why you did this they will say "why did you let him into your country"?
 
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Like the drone attacks in years past, may be, just possibly, Pakistan let this happened. I expect the FO to issue the standard disclaimers about sovereignty. :coffee:

Pakistani establishment does work with USA from time to time, sure there is some mistrust but they have to remain silent because of backlash, most of Pakistanis are very conservative and many morally support Afghan Taliban.

I am a bit confused..... What is the real issue?

1) Killing taliban leader inside pakistan??
2) Drone strike inside pakistan?
3) Killing a friend inside pakistan?

Why people are so mad on this issue?

Don't worry about PDF Pakistanis, they can be outraged for many reasons one of which is they support Afghan Taliban. What matters is that both USA and Pakistan actually do work together to eliminate Taliban leaders.
 
They attacked on our soil, that is wrong

You guys really need to give up that thought process of sovernity. You dont tell US what to do and what not. If you are not going to do it, US will. As far as sovernity goes, you need to be concerned with countries in your standing which none really violate.

As far as the news goes. Very good. Even one less Taliban is good for the world.

As far as leadership's silence over everything goes. Please keep electing same old fcks again, you people do deserve to be ruled by NS and type.

Why people are so mad on this issue?

I think they are not really mad, just fond of creating a fuss over everything and getting emotional. S.Asian fav hobby.
 
Pakistan should teach U.S a good lesson

Pakistan should teach U.S a good lesson
 
Just like the previous countless drone strikes they had permission and we knew what they wanted to do
 
Don't worry about PDF Pakistanis, they can be outraged for many reasons one of which is they support Afghan Taliban. What matters is that both USA and Pakistan actually do work together to eliminate Taliban leaders.

I really hope that is the case.... But if i go by the news headlines, Islamabad is not very happy about this incident......
 
First drone strike in Baluchistan this is interesting
 
I have some questions

1-three month back peace process was started by Americans afghans and the Pakistani to resolve the issue pakistan was told to speak with Taliban and brought them to table which they did ... suddenly a complete U tune has been taken by Americans through killing the Mullah Mansour

2- By accepting the American claim of providing the advance intel about the drone attack to our Military chief and PM, i dont think so Taliban will ever trust any more on our military leadership or our political leadership.

3- Pakistan has lose its leverage to perform any future role in Afghan peace process.

4- what was the reason our military has handed over the Angoor Adda check post?

5- Most of Afghan or Al-Qaida Leader, have been killed in Pakistan ? what our agencies are doing to establish the good will of pakistan and re assert their role.

6- What is our forigen policy regarding such issues .. (if we have any - coz we dont have any foreign minster yet)
 
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No it is not. Mansoor should not have been in Pakistan. OBL should not have been in Pakistan. They were wanted men by US. You either apprehend them and hand them over to US or you give them refuge in which you will have war with US.

You don't them hand them over and at the same time don't officially give them refuge you creating ambigiouty. That then allows US to do the dirty worlk itself. It is simple as that.

Well if he was not "on our soil" they would not have done that would they? If we did not let our sovereignty be openly violated by illegal people who are wanted men hiding inside Pakistan than all this would not happen. Fact is this guy was found on our sovereign soil. If you say to US why you did this they will say "why did you let him into your country"?
There are many our wanted sitting in western countries. We they let us do that same dirty work there?
 
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