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Adding stealth torpedo to Assassin's Mace list
I am adding "stealth torpedo" to the list of Chinese Assassin's Mace asymmetric weapons. An American Virginia-class submarine is not stealthy when the sound-absorbing hull-coating falls off (see citation below).
The idea here is to do the opposite. Let's put sound-absorbing coating on a torpedo to defeat (or at least deteriorate the effectiveness of) sonar.
A submarine commander can't deploy countermeasures if he doesn't know that a stealth torpedo is homing in on his submarine.
Show, don’t tell: Circumspection over Virginia Class MIP/SHT woes
"Show, don’t tell: Circumspection over Virginia Class MIP/SHT woes
by CRAIG HOOPER on JANUARY 21, 2011
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A problem with a rubber-like exterior coating sloughing off Virginia-class submarines at sea was noticeable on the North Carolina, but was not as bad as the loss on the Texas, which was tied up on the opposite side of the pier.
The Texas returned to Pearl Harbor on Aug. 23 from a three-month deployment to the eastern Pacific with its urethane coating, used to reduce sound, in tatters."
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Over the years, we've all heard about China's Assassin's Mace asymmetric weaponry. They are designed to neutralize America's superiority in conventional military power. Here is my guess for the list of Assassin's Mace Chinese weaponry.
1. 16.5 Megaton EMP warhead based on Chinese five-megaton thermonuclear warhead intentionally altered to emit gamma rays. A megaton-class EMP will fuse all of the electrical wiring and electronics of any equipment not protected under a mountain.
2. ASBM will be used for a limited attack on a specific naval capital ship.
3. Conventional-powered EMP may provide a more targeted capability against a small area (e.g. naval carrier group).
4. Shenlong space plane to drop a megaton-class EMP anywhere in the world on short notice. The EMP will blind all above-ground radar stations, fuse communication equipment, and knock-out unprotected enemy aircraft.
5. Stealth cruise missile. This is an obvious and simpler weapon based on the stealth technology from the manned stealth fighter program.
6. Supersonic stealth UCAV. A subsonic stealth UCAV has limited capability. Flying slowly leaves it vulnerable to detection and shootdown by a supercruising manned stealth fighter. Therefore, it is reasonable for China to work on a supercruising unmanned stealth fighter. It will shock your opponent and allow the unmanned stealth fighter to pull some incredible Gs.
7. Thermonuclear-armed torpedo. This is an obvious extension of China's vast array of thermonuclear weaponry. Instead of worrying about the exact location of an enemy sub and its countermeasures (e.g. decoys), a Chinese sub commander only needs to know the approximate location of an enemy and blow it to hell with a thermonuclear-armed torpedo or mine.
8. Hypersonic missile. The Chinese CM-400AKG air-to-ground missile has a terminal speed in excess of Mach 4. China will keep pushing its technology and their missiles should keep increasing in speed into the hypersonic range.
9. Thermonuclear-armed SAM. A Chinese HQ-9 SAM (ie. surface-to-air missile) armed with a 20-kiloton tactical warhead can easily knock out an F-22. When Hiroshima explodes next to an F-22 pilot, he's out of the war.
10. Stealth Torpedo. A Chinese Yu-6 torpedo with a rubberized sound-absorbing coating would be much harder to detect with sonar. Torpedoes don't move very fast and the sound from cavitation shouldn't be a problem. Also, the torpedo shields the rear-located propeller-acoustic waves from the target.
I am adding "stealth torpedo" to the list of Chinese Assassin's Mace asymmetric weapons. An American Virginia-class submarine is not stealthy when the sound-absorbing hull-coating falls off (see citation below).
The idea here is to do the opposite. Let's put sound-absorbing coating on a torpedo to defeat (or at least deteriorate the effectiveness of) sonar.
A submarine commander can't deploy countermeasures if he doesn't know that a stealth torpedo is homing in on his submarine.
Show, don’t tell: Circumspection over Virginia Class MIP/SHT woes
"Show, don’t tell: Circumspection over Virginia Class MIP/SHT woes
by CRAIG HOOPER on JANUARY 21, 2011
...
A problem with a rubber-like exterior coating sloughing off Virginia-class submarines at sea was noticeable on the North Carolina, but was not as bad as the loss on the Texas, which was tied up on the opposite side of the pier.
The Texas returned to Pearl Harbor on Aug. 23 from a three-month deployment to the eastern Pacific with its urethane coating, used to reduce sound, in tatters."
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Over the years, we've all heard about China's Assassin's Mace asymmetric weaponry. They are designed to neutralize America's superiority in conventional military power. Here is my guess for the list of Assassin's Mace Chinese weaponry.
1. 16.5 Megaton EMP warhead based on Chinese five-megaton thermonuclear warhead intentionally altered to emit gamma rays. A megaton-class EMP will fuse all of the electrical wiring and electronics of any equipment not protected under a mountain.
2. ASBM will be used for a limited attack on a specific naval capital ship.
3. Conventional-powered EMP may provide a more targeted capability against a small area (e.g. naval carrier group).
4. Shenlong space plane to drop a megaton-class EMP anywhere in the world on short notice. The EMP will blind all above-ground radar stations, fuse communication equipment, and knock-out unprotected enemy aircraft.
5. Stealth cruise missile. This is an obvious and simpler weapon based on the stealth technology from the manned stealth fighter program.
6. Supersonic stealth UCAV. A subsonic stealth UCAV has limited capability. Flying slowly leaves it vulnerable to detection and shootdown by a supercruising manned stealth fighter. Therefore, it is reasonable for China to work on a supercruising unmanned stealth fighter. It will shock your opponent and allow the unmanned stealth fighter to pull some incredible Gs.
7. Thermonuclear-armed torpedo. This is an obvious extension of China's vast array of thermonuclear weaponry. Instead of worrying about the exact location of an enemy sub and its countermeasures (e.g. decoys), a Chinese sub commander only needs to know the approximate location of an enemy and blow it to hell with a thermonuclear-armed torpedo or mine.
8. Hypersonic missile. The Chinese CM-400AKG air-to-ground missile has a terminal speed in excess of Mach 4. China will keep pushing its technology and their missiles should keep increasing in speed into the hypersonic range.
9. Thermonuclear-armed SAM. A Chinese HQ-9 SAM (ie. surface-to-air missile) armed with a 20-kiloton tactical warhead can easily knock out an F-22. When Hiroshima explodes next to an F-22 pilot, he's out of the war.
10. Stealth Torpedo. A Chinese Yu-6 torpedo with a rubberized sound-absorbing coating would be much harder to detect with sonar. Torpedoes don't move very fast and the sound from cavitation shouldn't be a problem. Also, the torpedo shields the rear-located propeller-acoustic waves from the target.
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Revising Assassin's Mace list and adding MASER satellite-killer
It has been two years since I started the Assassin's Mace list. A lot has happened. I'll prune the list and add the new entry of MASER (Microwave Laser) satellite killer.
16.5 Megaton EMP warhead is being removed, because China's DF-5A warhead is already an inherently five-megaton capable EMP (that has to be detonated at a high altitude).
ASBM is being removed. The DF-21D ASBM carrier-killer has been deployed according to the Pentagon.
Conventional-powered EMP has been developed in the YJ-18 Aegis-killer missile (see Deagel citation).
Hypersonic missile has been developed in the WU-14 HGV (ie. hypersonic glide vehicle).
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New Assassin's Mace list with MASER satellite-killer addition
1. Shenlong space plane to drop a megaton-class EMP anywhere in the world on short notice. The EMP will blind all above-ground radar stations, fuse communication equipment, and knock-out unprotected enemy aircraft.
2. Stealth cruise missile. This is an obvious and simpler weapon based on the stealth technology from the manned stealth fighter program.
3. Supersonic stealth UCAV. A subsonic stealth UCAV has limited capability. Flying slowly leaves it vulnerable to detection and shootdown by a supercruising manned stealth fighter. Therefore, it is reasonable for China to work on a supercruising unmanned stealth fighter. It will shock your opponent and allow the unmanned stealth fighter to pull some incredible Gs.
4. Thermonuclear-armed torpedo. This is an obvious extension of China's vast array of thermonuclear weaponry. Instead of worrying about the exact location of an enemy sub and its countermeasures (e.g. decoys), a Chinese sub commander only needs to know the approximate location of an enemy and blow it to hell with a thermonuclear-armed torpedo or mine.
5. Thermonuclear-armed SAM. A Chinese HQ-9 SAM (ie. surface-to-air missile) armed with a 20-kiloton tactical warhead can easily knock out an F-22. When Hiroshima explodes next to an F-22 pilot, he's out of the war.
6. Stealth Torpedo. A Chinese Yu-6 torpedo with a rubberized sound-absorbing coating would be much harder to detect with sonar. Torpedoes don't move very fast and the sound from cavitation shouldn't be a problem. Also, the torpedo shields the rear-located propeller-acoustic waves from the target.
7. Maser Satellite-killer. The fastest way to kill an orbiting radar satellite is to beam a MASER at the satellite collecting dish. When the MASER is reflected into the "satellite feed horn," the satellite is kaput.
Microwave laser fulfills 60 years of promise : Nature News & Comment
It has been two years since I started the Assassin's Mace list. A lot has happened. I'll prune the list and add the new entry of MASER (Microwave Laser) satellite killer.
16.5 Megaton EMP warhead is being removed, because China's DF-5A warhead is already an inherently five-megaton capable EMP (that has to be detonated at a high altitude).
ASBM is being removed. The DF-21D ASBM carrier-killer has been deployed according to the Pentagon.
Conventional-powered EMP has been developed in the YJ-18 Aegis-killer missile (see Deagel citation).
Hypersonic missile has been developed in the WU-14 HGV (ie. hypersonic glide vehicle).
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New Assassin's Mace list with MASER satellite-killer addition
1. Shenlong space plane to drop a megaton-class EMP anywhere in the world on short notice. The EMP will blind all above-ground radar stations, fuse communication equipment, and knock-out unprotected enemy aircraft.
2. Stealth cruise missile. This is an obvious and simpler weapon based on the stealth technology from the manned stealth fighter program.
3. Supersonic stealth UCAV. A subsonic stealth UCAV has limited capability. Flying slowly leaves it vulnerable to detection and shootdown by a supercruising manned stealth fighter. Therefore, it is reasonable for China to work on a supercruising unmanned stealth fighter. It will shock your opponent and allow the unmanned stealth fighter to pull some incredible Gs.
4. Thermonuclear-armed torpedo. This is an obvious extension of China's vast array of thermonuclear weaponry. Instead of worrying about the exact location of an enemy sub and its countermeasures (e.g. decoys), a Chinese sub commander only needs to know the approximate location of an enemy and blow it to hell with a thermonuclear-armed torpedo or mine.
5. Thermonuclear-armed SAM. A Chinese HQ-9 SAM (ie. surface-to-air missile) armed with a 20-kiloton tactical warhead can easily knock out an F-22. When Hiroshima explodes next to an F-22 pilot, he's out of the war.
6. Stealth Torpedo. A Chinese Yu-6 torpedo with a rubberized sound-absorbing coating would be much harder to detect with sonar. Torpedoes don't move very fast and the sound from cavitation shouldn't be a problem. Also, the torpedo shields the rear-located propeller-acoustic waves from the target.
7. Maser Satellite-killer. The fastest way to kill an orbiting radar satellite is to beam a MASER at the satellite collecting dish. When the MASER is reflected into the "satellite feed horn," the satellite is kaput.
Microwave laser fulfills 60 years of promise : Nature News & Comment
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New Assassin's Mace list: DF-21D ASBM Carrier-killer with 3 MIRVed MARVs
1. Shenlong space plane to drop a megaton-class EMP anywhere in the world on short notice. The EMP will blind all above-ground radar stations, fuse communication equipment, and knock-out unprotected enemy aircraft.
2. Stealth cruise missile. This is an obvious and simpler weapon based on the stealth technology from the manned stealth fighter program.
3. Supersonic stealth UCAV. A subsonic stealth UCAV has limited capability. Flying slowly leaves it vulnerable to detection and shootdown by a supercruising manned stealth fighter. Therefore, it is reasonable for China to work on a supercruising unmanned stealth fighter. It will shock your opponent and allow the unmanned stealth fighter to pull some incredible Gs.
4. Thermonuclear-armed torpedo. This is an obvious extension of China's vast array of thermonuclear weaponry. Instead of worrying about the exact location of an enemy sub and its countermeasures (e.g. decoys), a Chinese sub commander only needs to know the approximate location of an enemy and blow it to hell with a thermonuclear-armed torpedo or mine.
5. Thermonuclear-armed SAM. A Chinese HQ-9 SAM (ie. surface-to-air missile) armed with a 20-kiloton tactical warhead can easily knock out an F-22. When Hiroshima explodes next to an F-22 pilot, he's out of the war.
6. Stealth Torpedo. A Chinese Yu-6 torpedo with a rubberized sound-absorbing coating would be much harder to detect with sonar. Torpedoes don't move very fast and the sound from cavitation shouldn't be a problem. Also, the torpedo shields the rear-located propeller-acoustic waves from the target.
7. Maser Satellite-killer. The fastest way to kill an orbiting radar satellite is to beam a MASER at the satellite collecting dish. When the MASER is reflected into the "satellite feed horn," the satellite is kaput.
8. DF-21D ASBM Carrier-killer with 3 MIRVed MARVs. Let's create more uncertainty and stress for a defender that is faced with an incoming DF-21D ASBM carrier-killer barrage. With three smaller MIRVed MARVs per ASBM, the multiple smaller warheads pose a serious dilemma for carrier defense. Each incoming ASBM requires three defense-missiles. This will rapidly deplete the carrier group's defensive arsenal.
With a 50/50 mix of single-warhead heavy-hitting ASBMs and an equal number of MIRVed-MARVs ASBMs, the attacker can maximize his offensive power and simultaneously deplete the defender's.
Assume 100 ASBMs are inbound against a carrier group. Not knowing whether all 100 ASBMs have multiple warheads, the carrier group must fire 300 missiles to individually intercept all incoming warheads. The defender has already wasted 200 missiles. However, the attack group actually consists of 50 single-warhead ASBMs and 50 multiple-warhead ASBMs.
Regardless of whether a single warhead strikes the carrier group, the attacker has already won. In exchange for 100 attack missiles, the defender expended 300 defense missiles. Also, the 50 single-warhead missiles are interspersed among the ASBM saturation attack. Only one needs to reach its target while hidden among a crowd of 150 smaller warheads.
1. Shenlong space plane to drop a megaton-class EMP anywhere in the world on short notice. The EMP will blind all above-ground radar stations, fuse communication equipment, and knock-out unprotected enemy aircraft.
2. Stealth cruise missile. This is an obvious and simpler weapon based on the stealth technology from the manned stealth fighter program.
3. Supersonic stealth UCAV. A subsonic stealth UCAV has limited capability. Flying slowly leaves it vulnerable to detection and shootdown by a supercruising manned stealth fighter. Therefore, it is reasonable for China to work on a supercruising unmanned stealth fighter. It will shock your opponent and allow the unmanned stealth fighter to pull some incredible Gs.
4. Thermonuclear-armed torpedo. This is an obvious extension of China's vast array of thermonuclear weaponry. Instead of worrying about the exact location of an enemy sub and its countermeasures (e.g. decoys), a Chinese sub commander only needs to know the approximate location of an enemy and blow it to hell with a thermonuclear-armed torpedo or mine.
5. Thermonuclear-armed SAM. A Chinese HQ-9 SAM (ie. surface-to-air missile) armed with a 20-kiloton tactical warhead can easily knock out an F-22. When Hiroshima explodes next to an F-22 pilot, he's out of the war.
6. Stealth Torpedo. A Chinese Yu-6 torpedo with a rubberized sound-absorbing coating would be much harder to detect with sonar. Torpedoes don't move very fast and the sound from cavitation shouldn't be a problem. Also, the torpedo shields the rear-located propeller-acoustic waves from the target.
7. Maser Satellite-killer. The fastest way to kill an orbiting radar satellite is to beam a MASER at the satellite collecting dish. When the MASER is reflected into the "satellite feed horn," the satellite is kaput.
8. DF-21D ASBM Carrier-killer with 3 MIRVed MARVs. Let's create more uncertainty and stress for a defender that is faced with an incoming DF-21D ASBM carrier-killer barrage. With three smaller MIRVed MARVs per ASBM, the multiple smaller warheads pose a serious dilemma for carrier defense. Each incoming ASBM requires three defense-missiles. This will rapidly deplete the carrier group's defensive arsenal.
With a 50/50 mix of single-warhead heavy-hitting ASBMs and an equal number of MIRVed-MARVs ASBMs, the attacker can maximize his offensive power and simultaneously deplete the defender's.
Assume 100 ASBMs are inbound against a carrier group. Not knowing whether all 100 ASBMs have multiple warheads, the carrier group must fire 300 missiles to individually intercept all incoming warheads. The defender has already wasted 200 missiles. However, the attack group actually consists of 50 single-warhead ASBMs and 50 multiple-warhead ASBMs.
Regardless of whether a single warhead strikes the carrier group, the attacker has already won. In exchange for 100 attack missiles, the defender expended 300 defense missiles. Also, the 50 single-warhead missiles are interspersed among the ASBM saturation attack. Only one needs to reach its target while hidden among a crowd of 150 smaller warheads.
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Adding Advanced Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle (AMaRV) to Assassin's Mace list
You've heard of MIRV.
You've heard of MaRV.
Have you heard of AMaRV? It can perform a hairpin turn (see photo below). The US tested three AMaRVs around 1980. It is logical to expect China to develop its own AMaRVs.
Source: http://www.paforge.com/files/articles/ballisticmissiles_techistory.pdf (p. 4)
"Flight test of the Advanced Maneuvering Reentry Vehicle in early 1980. The path of the reentry vehicle is the upper streak of light, with the booster tanks immediately below. Lights from the Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific can be seen in the lower right corner. (U.S. Air Force)"
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"Advanced Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle (AMaRV) was a prototype MARV built by McDonnell-Douglas Corp.. Four AMaRVs were made and represented a significant leap in Reentry Vehicle sophistication. Three of the AMaRVs were launched by Minuteman-1 ICBMs on 20 December 1979, 8 October 1980 and 4 October 1981. AMaRV had an entry mass of approximately 470 kg, a nose radius of 2.34 cm, a forward frustum half-angle of 10.4°, an inter-frustum radius of 14.6 cm, aft frustum half angle of 6°, and an axial length of 2.079 meters. No accurate diagram or picture of AMaRV has ever appeared in the open literature. However, a schematic sketch of an AMaRV-like vehicle along with trajectory plots showing hairpin turns has been published.[1] AMaRV's attitude was controlled through a split body flap (also called a "split-windward flap") along with two yaw flaps mounted on the vehicle's sides. Hydraulic actuation was used for controlling the flaps. AMaRV was guided by a fully autonomous navigation system designed for evading anti-ballistic missile (ABM) interception."
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McDonell Douglas unclassified report on AMaRV (May 28, 1980): http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a090577.pdf
You've heard of MIRV.
You've heard of MaRV.
Have you heard of AMaRV? It can perform a hairpin turn (see photo below). The US tested three AMaRVs around 1980. It is logical to expect China to develop its own AMaRVs.
Source: http://www.paforge.com/files/articles/ballisticmissiles_techistory.pdf (p. 4)
"Flight test of the Advanced Maneuvering Reentry Vehicle in early 1980. The path of the reentry vehicle is the upper streak of light, with the booster tanks immediately below. Lights from the Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific can be seen in the lower right corner. (U.S. Air Force)"
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"Advanced Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle (AMaRV) was a prototype MARV built by McDonnell-Douglas Corp.. Four AMaRVs were made and represented a significant leap in Reentry Vehicle sophistication. Three of the AMaRVs were launched by Minuteman-1 ICBMs on 20 December 1979, 8 October 1980 and 4 October 1981. AMaRV had an entry mass of approximately 470 kg, a nose radius of 2.34 cm, a forward frustum half-angle of 10.4°, an inter-frustum radius of 14.6 cm, aft frustum half angle of 6°, and an axial length of 2.079 meters. No accurate diagram or picture of AMaRV has ever appeared in the open literature. However, a schematic sketch of an AMaRV-like vehicle along with trajectory plots showing hairpin turns has been published.[1] AMaRV's attitude was controlled through a split body flap (also called a "split-windward flap") along with two yaw flaps mounted on the vehicle's sides. Hydraulic actuation was used for controlling the flaps. AMaRV was guided by a fully autonomous navigation system designed for evading anti-ballistic missile (ABM) interception."
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McDonell Douglas unclassified report on AMaRV (May 28, 1980): http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a090577.pdf
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