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CHINA BEGINS MILITARY DRILLS WITH SAUDI ARABIA AND U.S. THINKS IT WILL SOON SELL WEAPONS TO IRAN TOO
BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 11/20/19 AT 5:30 PM EST

China has launched military drills alongside Saudi Arabia, and the United States believes it will soon sell weapons to Iran as well—signaling Beijing's strengthening ties to two sides of a tense rivalry in the Persian Gulf.

The Chinese military announced Wednesday that it held the opening ceremony of the Blue Sword 2019 joint naval special forces exercise with Saudi Arabia Sunday, and the maneuvers would run three weeks at the King Faisal Naval Base. China's armed forces said that "the joint training aims to enhance the mutual trust and friendly relations between the two navies, strengthen the maritime combat capability of the participants, exchange experiences and improve the training level."

Saudi Colonel Abdullah Mohammed al-Omari echoed the message in a separate statement issued by the Saudi Defense Ministry. He added that the exercise "comes within the framework of facing all challenges, and maintaining peace and stability in the region."

Beijing has for decades fostered defense ties with Riyadh, selling the kingdom intermediate-range ballistic missiles such as the Dongfeng DF-3A and DF-21 over the years. However, with a United Nations Security Council embargo on arms set to expire next year for Saudi Arabia's top foe, Iran, a new Defense Intelligence Agency report suggests that China was likely to enter into business with a country the U.S. said already has "the largest and most diverse ballistic missile arsenal in the Middle East."

As President Donald Trump's administration wages its self-styled "maximum pressure" campaign, U.S. officials have urged international powers to renew restrictions imposed in 2010 on the sale of weapons to Iran, a measure that came in response to the country's nuclear program. These restrictions are set to expire next October, according to the 2015 nuclear deal. Trump unilaterally pulled out of the agreement last year, but China, the European Union, France, Germany, Russia and the United Kingdom have continued to endorse the accord, meaning the weapons ban was still on course to be lifted.

The DIA's new Iran Military Power report argued that such a development would allow "Iran to purchase new advanced weapon systems from foreign suppliers to modernize its armed forces, including equipment it has largely been unable to acquire for decades."

"Iran will be permitted to purchase conventional systems it is unable to produce domestically, such as advanced fighter aircraft and main battle tanks," the report said. "Iran is already evaluating and discussing military hardware for purchase primarily from Russia and, to a lesser extent, China."

China also has a long history of supplying Iran with military equipment, including fighter jets, surface-to-air missile systems, anti-ship missiles, missile boats and attack submarines. Much of Iran's arsenal consisted of outdated Western, Russia and Chinese systems, although Iran has based some of its more modern weapons, like the Chinese C-704 anti-ship cruise missile clone Nasr-1, on systems from these countries.

Iranian officials, too, have hinted they were looking into selling arms to and buying arms from both Russia and China as the sanctions were set to end. At August's International Aviation and Space Salon (MAKS) near Moscow, Iran Aviation Industries Organization Director Brigadier General Abdolkarim Banitarafi said that "the Russians and the Chinese have given us proposals, of course, we have our own proposals, but all of this is in the discussions stage."

Today, Tehran continues to count on Beijing as its top trade partner, an economic lifeline in the face of Washington's intense sanctions. China has also offered Iran political support in hold the U.S. nuclear deal exit responsible for Iran reducing its nuclear deal commitments, and for the bouts of unrest that have erupted since in the Persian Gulf region, where the Trump administration has blamed the Islamic Republic for attacks on oil tankers and Saudi oil facilities.

With tensions worsening near the Strait of Hormuz—the world's busiest maritime oil chokepoint—Iran has sought to boost its cooperation with China, along with Russia, in the military sphere, as well.

Despite Riyadh's growing ties to both Beijing and Moscow, the kingdom had an unparalleled military relationship with Washington, which was set to maintain some 3,000 troops there in order to deter a perceived threat from Tehran. On top of this, Saudi Arabia has joined a U.S.-led naval coalition, known as the International Maritime Security Construct and backed by Australia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and the U.K. to patrol the Persian Gulf waters.

Iran has counterproposed a Coalition for HOPE, or Hormuz Peace Endeavor, that envisions a regional pact of non-aggression and non-interference with Saudi Arabia, the UAE and other nations of the Arabian Peninsula, as well as Iraq—a nation that has straddled ties with the U.S., Iran and Saudi Arabia since the U.S. invasion of 2003.

Russia has offered support for this idea while pushing its own framework called the Security Concept for the Persian Gulf region that would see cooperation and international involvement with China, the U.S., the EU and India. Beijing has backed both ideas, calling for stability above all else.

China and Russia have both participated in multilateral drills with Iran in the past, but whether they would join in any direct, major exercises with the nation remained to be seen. In July, Iranian navy commander Rear Admiral Hossein Khanzadi revealed plans for joint Iran-Russia naval drills in the northern Indian Ocean and the plans were confirmed in September by Foreign Minister Mohammed Javad Zarif, who hinted that "maybe other countries will also be interested in joining these drills."

Weeks later, General Ghadir Nezami Pour, chief of international affairs and defense diplomacy for the Iranian military's general staff, told Iran's Mosalas magazine that "for the first time since the Islamic Revolution, we will hold joint naval exercises with Russia and China as the two major powers in the northern Indian Ocean and the Oman Sea." As of publication, however, neither Moscow nor Beijing has confirmed the news.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-drills-saudi-sell-weapons-iran-1473080
 
Iran, China and Russia will 'send a message to the world' with first ever joint war drills
  • Navies of Iran, China and Russia will hold joint war games in the Indian Ocean
  • Admiral Hussein Khanzadi said the drills would take place 'in the near future'
  • Iran is hoping for 'collective security' amid maritime tensions in the Middle East
By TIM STICKINGS FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 05:29 EST, 28 November 2019 | UPDATED: 12:51 EST, 28 November 2019

Iran, Russia and China are set to hold their first-ever joint military drills in a show of power to the West.

Admiral Hussein Khanzadi revealed yesterday that the three navies would hold military exercises in the northern Indian Ocean in the 'near future'.

Design and planning for the drills took place last month and troops are already preparing for the exercise, he said.

The joint operation will 'send a message to the world', Khanzadi was quoted as saying by the semi-official Mehr news agency.

Iran's co-operation with Russia and China would ensure 'collective security' in the sea, Khanzadi said, after a summer of maritime tensions in the Middle East.

'The wargame seeks to deliver this message to the world that any kind of security at sea must include the interests of all concerned countries.

'We do not condone the kind of security that only caters to the benefits of one specific country at a specific time and which disregards the security of others.'

Khanzadi made the announcement on the country's Navy Day, which celebrates an Iranian naval success during the Iran-Iraq War in 1980.

The naval drills come after a tense summer in which Gulf tankers and Saudi oil facilities were hit by a series of mysterious attacks that the US blamed on Iran.

In addition, Tehran seized a British-flagged vessel in apparent retaliation for the capture of an Iranian tanker off Gibraltar.

It sent Middle East tensions escalating alarmingly as both Britain and America beefed up their military presence in the region.

Experts have warned that a crisis in the critical Strait of Hormuz could endanger the world's oil supply.

Trump called off air strikes against Iran at the last minute in June after the Islamic Republic downed a US drown.

On top of that, Iran has moved ever further away from its nuclear pact with the West in recent months after Donald Trump abandoned the deal last year.

Last month the head of Iran's nuclear programme announced that the country was now running 60 banned IR-6 centrifuges, twice as many as before.

The centrifuges can enrich uranium 10 times faster than the first-generation technology which Iran is permitted under the deal.

In addition, President Hassan Rouhani said Tehran would start injecting uranium gas into more than 1,000 centrifuges at a secretive plant in another violation of the deal.

Experts fear the technology could allow Iran to produce nuclear weapons within less than a year if it chose to do so.

Washington last year reimposed sanctions against Iran which had been suspended under the agreement, crippling Iran's economy.

Iran has pleaded for help from Europe to dodge the sanctions but efforts by Britain, France and Germany have largely proved unsuccessful.

Tehran has retaliated with a series of provocative steps to tear up the nuclear deal in the hope of forcing Europe to help.

Iran has denied ever seeking nuclear weapons, insisting its atomic programme is for entirely peaceful purposes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ssia-send-message-world-joint-war-drills.html
 
Iran, China and Russia will 'send a message to the world' with first ever joint war drills

It's just a reaction to this:

https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/us-naval-carrier-group-sails-through-strait-hormuz
November 20, 2019

US Naval Carrier Group Sails Through Strait of Hormuz

The aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, left, the air-defense destroyer HMS Defender and the guided-missile destroyer USS Farragut transit the Strait of Hormuz in this Nov. 19, 2019, photo made available by U.S. Navy.


So China holding military drills with Saudi and Iran. Both sworn enemies. That should work out well.
 
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Iran, China and Russia will 'send a message to the world' with first ever joint war drills
  • Navies of Iran, China and Russia will hold joint war games in the Indian Ocean
  • Admiral Hussein Khanzadi said the drills would take place 'in the near future'
  • Iran is hoping for 'collective security' amid maritime tensions in the Middle East
By TIM STICKINGS FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 05:29 EST, 28 November 2019 | UPDATED: 12:51 EST, 28 November 2019

Iran, Russia and China are set to hold their first-ever joint military drills in a show of power to the West.

Admiral Hussein Khanzadi revealed yesterday that the three navies would hold military exercises in the northern Indian Ocean in the 'near future'.

Design and planning for the drills took place last month and troops are already preparing for the exercise, he said.

The joint operation will 'send a message to the world', Khanzadi was quoted as saying by the semi-official Mehr news agency.

Iran's co-operation with Russia and China would ensure 'collective security' in the sea, Khanzadi said, after a summer of maritime tensions in the Middle East.

'The wargame seeks to deliver this message to the world that any kind of security at sea must include the interests of all concerned countries.

'We do not condone the kind of security that only caters to the benefits of one specific country at a specific time and which disregards the security of others.'

Khanzadi made the announcement on the country's Navy Day, which celebrates an Iranian naval success during the Iran-Iraq War in 1980.

The naval drills come after a tense summer in which Gulf tankers and Saudi oil facilities were hit by a series of mysterious attacks that the US blamed on Iran.

In addition, Tehran seized a British-flagged vessel in apparent retaliation for the capture of an Iranian tanker off Gibraltar.

It sent Middle East tensions escalating alarmingly as both Britain and America beefed up their military presence in the region.

Experts have warned that a crisis in the critical Strait of Hormuz could endanger the world's oil supply.

Trump called off air strikes against Iran at the last minute in June after the Islamic Republic downed a US drown.

On top of that, Iran has moved ever further away from its nuclear pact with the West in recent months after Donald Trump abandoned the deal last year.

Last month the head of Iran's nuclear programme announced that the country was now running 60 banned IR-6 centrifuges, twice as many as before.

The centrifuges can enrich uranium 10 times faster than the first-generation technology which Iran is permitted under the deal.

In addition, President Hassan Rouhani said Tehran would start injecting uranium gas into more than 1,000 centrifuges at a secretive plant in another violation of the deal.

Experts fear the technology could allow Iran to produce nuclear weapons within less than a year if it chose to do so.

Washington last year reimposed sanctions against Iran which had been suspended under the agreement, crippling Iran's economy.

Iran has pleaded for help from Europe to dodge the sanctions but efforts by Britain, France and Germany have largely proved unsuccessful.

Tehran has retaliated with a series of provocative steps to tear up the nuclear deal in the hope of forcing Europe to help.

Iran has denied ever seeking nuclear weapons, insisting its atomic programme is for entirely peaceful purposes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ssia-send-message-world-joint-war-drills.html
by all means, go have your joint exercises.
but keep the arrogance levels of your populations in check when it comes to outgunning or outwitting NATO or the EU as some kinda means of getting even for the balance of geopolitical power as it existed over the past 50 years.
 
by all means, go have your joint exercises.
but keep the arrogance levels of your populations in check when it comes to outgunning or outwitting NATO or the EU as some kinda means of getting even for the balance of geopolitical power as it existed over the past 50 years.

Iran doesn’t even have much of a Navy. The biggest ship is a frigate.
 
as usual fake news,
propaganda spread by Chinese establishment and Army.
by medal of 2020 we all see IRIran is not interested in any Chinese weapons or European weapons,

only maybe copration in space that all
 
Doing bussines with Iran is different then selling weapons:-), you will never do such thing.
 
Iran doesn’t even have much of a Navy. The biggest ship is a frigate.
not for long, Iran started to build 7000 tons destroyers and 3000+ tons submarines look at Iran navy page to catch up, still Iran have the biggest navy in middle east


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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-navy-news-and-discussions.346165/page-185
 
not for long, Iran started to build 7000 tons destroyers and 3000+ tons submarines look at Iran navy page to catch up, still Iran have the biggest navy in middle east


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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-navy-news-and-discussions.346165/page-185

Will any of this be ready in the “near future” so you can have something during the joint war drills?

This reminds of the last “near future” announcement of Iran sending some Navy ships across the Atlantic...that was like 4 years ago.

Edit: here’s the regularly scheduled yearly BS (which usually comes with an announcement to dump the dollar)

2014
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-to-send-warships-to-atlantic-for-1st-time/#
Iran to send warships to Atlantic for 1st time

2017
https://www.thesun.ie/news/1843785/...f-of-mexico-to-show-off-their-military-might/
TRUMP’S WORST NIGHTMARE
Iran’s warships are heading to America’s doorstep in the Gulf of Mexico to show off their military might

2019
https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-warships-into-atlantic-us-2019-1
Iran says it will send warships into the Atlantic Ocean, challenging the US by pushing closer to American waters
 
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Will any of this be ready in the “near future” so you can have something during the joint war drills?

This reminds of the last “near future” announcement of Iran sending some Navy ships across the Atlantic...that was like 4 years ago.
at that time that was a hope for now some more advanced frigates will join by end of the year in 3 -4 month but contraction of 5000-7000 tons destroyers will begin next year Iran just announced that next year they will build heavy submarines and heavy destroyers we will see the results in next 2-3 years but we hide alot of things so they very well could have been building them in secret the good news is that every thing that is coming will be advance no more this bad looking frigates next time they will have more powerful engines and vertical launch systems short and medium and long range advance air defense systems and equipped laser defense system and point defense systems new sonar and new torpedoes and new and advance electronics new 3D active phased array radar and long range cruise missiles and stealth UCAVs equipped with 100km range glide bombs and subsonic and supersonic anti ship cruise missiles and more so you see our warships going to be 300 time more powerful then those last ones


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at that time that was a hope for now some more advanced frigates will join by end of the year in 3 -4 month but contraction of 5000-7000 tons destroyers will begin next year Iran just announced that next year they will build heavy submarines and heavy destroyers we will see the results in next 2-3 years but we hide alot of things so they very well could have been building them in secret the good news is that every thing that is coming will be advance no more this bad looking frigates next time they will have more powerful engines and vertical launch systems short and medium and long range advance air defense systems and equipped laser defense system and point defense systems new sonar and new torpedoes and new and advance electronics new 3D active phased array radar and long range cruise missiles and stealth UCAVs equipped with 100km range glide bombs and subsonic and supersonic anti ship cruise missiles and more so you see our warships going to be 300 time more powerful then those last ones


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Yeah...yeah...whatever. Been down this road many times before
 

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