Brother Islamic Country Iran : A must watch for Pakistani's

[somebozo]

Well I think its time for flag-waving slogan chanting Pakistanis to open their eyes and smell the reality...

 

[marbella]

Uae already pulled out troops from Yemen. Take it as a sign.

 

[somebozo]

Uae already pulled out troops from Yemen. Take it as a sign.

As per terms of Truce...and also for North thunder exercises..

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Well I think its time for flag-waving slogan chanting Pakistanis to open their eyes and smell the reality...

Okay. Now why not give General Raheel Sharif a shout. Will you let him know this threat from Iran so he can move couple of strike divisions from other corps to the Iranian border. At present that fool Raheel (sarcasm) has left Iran border almost vacant of strike units and instead few FC units stand gaurd there.

GHQ has only XII Corps covering all of Iran and Southern Afghan border including all of insurgency infested Balochistan. If your claim of threat from Iran is real this represents a serious oversight on part of Pak planners. They need to shift more corps to Iran border. At the moment they are all concentrated on the Indian border.

Look at Pak Army ORBAT. From their conclude where and from whom threats are recognized by Pak military planners. They live in the real world of harsh choices.

 

[ito]

As OP is saying, Iran will stand with India. The sole reason is trade. India is the third largest oil market in the world and is posed to become second in near future, and all oil producing countries will want a pie in the market.

Islamic brotherhood is good for rhetoric and not for earning you money. Why do so called 'analysts' from Pakistan fail to recognize this?

 

[That Guy]

Pakistan needs to keep it's ties with Iran and KSA as purely economic and professional.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Iran will stand with India

Rubbish. These cheaper by the dozen so called analysts are no better than TT's at PDF and that includes meself.

The fact is Iran will stand for itself. Period. As regards oil that stuff sells easy and does not need any marketing. China buy's far more oil and trades far more with Iran then India can dream. So if trade is used as gauge then China is Iran's number one ally.

As regards military threat I go back to the people who spend day after day carrying out threat assessments and deploying military assets according to where the threats are seen. That is Pakistan Army General Headquarters presided over by Gen. Raheel Sharif. At GHQ they play with lives of soldiers and there is no place for bullshite. Well have a look at Pak Army order of battle (ORBAT) and then try to read the deployment to see where GHQ thinks the threat is from. It is clear to even a child looking at Pak Army ORBAT that the threat is India. It is also clear the Iran is regarded as least threat as only one measly single corp is left to cover huge swathe of South West Pakistan.

As far as I am concerned these people who try to stir this anti Iran thing in Pakistan are nothing but closet Indophiles for they full well know that Iran border is the least of our worries and that is a blessing because it saves us having to deploy heavy forces. If Iran becomes a real threat rather than imagined then significant forces would have to move to Iran border - maybe even a new corp might have to be raised or transferred from Indian border. That would weaken the forces on Indian border. Now who I wonder would ge pleased by that?

Fact 1: China is Iran's biggest trading partner and growing by leaps and bounds far above India. Fact 2: Arab oil countries are the biggest net dollar remittances source to India as well as huge market for India goods. Does that make China and oil Arabs Indias allies?

Rest is like you said rhetoric for the fools.

India remittances. Look where India earns billions from.

 

[ito]

Rubbish. These cheaper by the dozen so called analysts are no better than TT's at PDF and that includes meself.

The fact is Iran will stand for itself. Period. As regards oil that stuff sells and does not need any marketing. China buy's far more oil and trades far more with Iran then India can dream. So if trade is used as measure then China is Iran's number one ally.

As regards military threat I go back to the people who spend day after day carrying out threat assessments and deploying military assets according to where the threats are seen. That is Pakistan Army General Headquarters presided over by Gen. Raheel Sharif. At GHQ they play with lives of soldiers and there is no place for bullshite. Well have a look at Pak Army order of battle (ORBAT) and then try to read the deployment to see where GHQ see threat from. It is clear to even a child looking at Pak Army ORBAT threat is India. It is also clear the Iran is regarded as least threat as only one measly corp is left to cover huge swathe of South East Pakistan.

As far as I am concerned these people who try to stir this antio Iran thing in Pakistan are nothing but closet Indophiles for they full well know that Iran border is the least of our worries and that is a blessing because it saves us gaving to deploy heavy forces. If Iran becomes a real threat rather than imagined then significant forces would have to move to Iran border - maybe even a new corp might have to be raised or transferred from Indian border. That would weaken the forces on Indian border. Now who I wonder would ge pleased by that?

Fact 1: China is Iran's biggerst trading partner and growing by leaps and bounds far above India. Fact 2: Arab oil countries are the biggest net dollar remittances source to India as well as huge market for India goods. Does that make China and oil Arabs Indias allies?

Rest is like you said rhetoric for the fools.

India remittances. Look where India earns billions from.

Yes, China is the biggest trade partner of Iran, but doesn't mean they can afford to ignore India. And for the first time in the history the growth in oil demand in India has outstripped that of China.

Move over, China — India will drive future oil-demand growth - MarketWatch
India's Rise To 3rd Place In Oil Demand

Moreover I guess you are digressing from the actual topic. The topic is not India vs China with regard to Iran, but India vs Pakistan respective relationships with Iran. As you said "Iran will stand for itself". And by standing with India, Iran is protecting its self interests.

As regarding Arab world, in spite of what Pakistanis say, Arabs world never go against India interests for Pakistan. At most what they will offer is some lip service to Pakistan. And I see the relations between India and Arabs will deepen in future and I see more and more Arab money flowing into India into various ventures and investment avenues...the same logic applies to India and Chinese relations too.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And by standing with India

I beg to differ. Please elaborate precisely how Iran "stands" by India rhetoric asides that is? Saudia Arabia and other Arab states are far more vital to India's interests then Iran is. Please enlighten how Iran stands by India minus the huff huff of rhetoric?

Clearly Pak Army HQ seems to be asleep from any emerging stance by Iran with India that posits a threat - going by the ORBAT of the PA forces.

Ps. India earns nearly $35 billion from oil Arabs more than all the money Pakistan earns from all the world. That should wake up the retarded Pakistani's from their drug induced slumber and smell the coffee, so to say. Money converts into military power. It buys fighters, tanks and bullets.

 

[Viper0011.]

As OP is saying, Iran will stand with India. The sole reason is trade. India is the third largest oil market in the world and is posed to become second in near future, and all oil producing countries will want a pie in the market.

Islamic brotherhood is good for rhetoric and not for earning you money. Why do so called 'analysts' from Pakistan fail to recognize this?

I think the time has come that India realizes that Pakistan has been her 4th largest donor of money. So the hostilities should end and peace should be established.You can read on the following link:

Pakistanis Remit $5 Billion to Help Relatives in India

@MastanKhan @Ammara Chaudhry @Desert Fox @Irfan Baloch : interesting read above.

 

[somebozo]

Look at Pak Army ORBAT. From their conclude where and from whom threats are recognized by Pak military planners. They live in the real world of harsh choices.

It was the dumbest move because not only it left the Baluchistan area infested with insurgency but also Indian monitoring over border from Iran..PA has made some of the dumbest mistakes in history..so such maps do not hold of any value..given how strategic Baluchistan is...not having military strength on the Iran border should invite a review and court martial of entire military leadership!

As OP is saying, Iran will stand with India. The sole reason is trade. India is the third largest oil market in the world and is posed to become second in near future, and all oil producing countries will want a pie in the market.

Islamic brotherhood is good for rhetoric and not for earning you money. Why do so called 'analysts' from Pakistan fail to recognize this?

Quite dumb analysis because India is unable to honour the LNG contract with qatar and looking to reduction in all energy imports.! Beside oil can be supplied from multiple sources. India only stood up with iran because due to suspension of payment system it allowed India to negotiate barter trade forcing sub-standard indian goods on Iran in exchange of oil

Pakistan needs to keep it's ties with Iran and KSA as purely economic and professional.

Millitary and economy is always interlinked..the prime responsibility of an army is to protect economic interest...

 

[mingle]

Uae already pulled out troops from Yemen. Take it as a sign.

They deployed them back its kind of rotation .

 

[Indika]

The fact is Iran will stand for itself. Period

True, agreed.

India earns nearly $35 billion from oil Arabs more than all the money

But India does not discriminate between arab or Iran, we have equal relationship with both. Issue with pakistan is they tend to side with Saudis, hence they expect more from pakistan. Any refusal or change in policy is met with scorn.

More ever as Iran becomes more stronger post sanctions it will have less patience for terrorist incidents inside their country. Jundullah,jhangvi,SSP...etc which are SA sponsored and operating from Pak soil will be seen as enemy action.

 

[marbella]

They deployed them back its kind of rotation .

Oh okay. I've little knowledge of it. But to stay away from yemen war is much advised.
Koylay ki Dalali....

 

[That Guy]

Millitary and economy is always interlinked..the prime responsibility of an army is to protect economic interest...

Actually, it's prime responsibility is to keep the nation's territorial sovereignty intact.

Also, you can only have a strong military, if you have a strong economy.