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Bangladesh has set up the largest single sewage treatment plant in South Asia, capacity of 500,000 cu.mtrs per day

Three more interesting case studies that should be mandatory reading for every Bangladeshi MBA student and entrepreneur.




There are multiple other factors too like society's response for development, education and population etc.

Population in 1951:
Pakistan - 34 million
Bangladesh - 42 m
South Korea - 20 m

Population in 2020:
Pakistan - 230 million
Bangladesh - 165 m
South Korea - 52 m

My South Korean friends say 52 million is still too much. Roughly half of all Koreans live in the Seoul Capital Area, the fourth most populous metropolitan area in the world.

South Korea is a small place. Their area is 100,000 SQ.KM. Bangladesh has 130,000 SQ.KM. Plus a lot of Korean land is not arable. Industrialization was a blessing to Korea.

Bangladesh population growth has already slowed down a lot. Our rate of population increase is lower than that of India.
 
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Three more interesting case studies that should be mandatory reading for every Bangladeshi MBA student and entrepreneur.






My South Korean friends say 52 million is still too much. Roughly half of all Koreans live in the Seoul Capital Area, the fourth most populous metropolitan area in the world.

South Korea is a small place. Their area is 100,000 SQ.KM. Bangladesh has 130,000 SQ.KM.

Bangladesh population growth has already slowed down a lot. Our rate of population increase is lower than that of India.
The bookshelves are full of many miracle storybooks from other countries. Please tell us how a similar miracle can be materialized in Bangladesh where Confusiasm is non-existent and the value system is based on believing some Abstract objects that amount to almost superstitions.

People are not educated on mannerisms. The basis of teaching is not honesty, sincerity, or truthfulness, and on the development of other human qualities like respecting others or elders. We abide by the Mullah teaching of chanting Abstract names as the only way to Paradise.

By our evil manners, we create Hell in this world but hope to enter an eternal Paradise. Very absurd!!!
 
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The bookshelves are full of many miracle storybooks from other countries. Please tell us how a similar miracle can be materialized in Bangladesh where Confusiasm is non-existent and the value system is based on believing some Abstract objects that amount to almost superstitions.

People are not educated on mannerisms. The basis of teaching is not honesty, sincerity, or truthfulness, and on the development of other human qualities like respecting others or elders. We abide by the Mullah teaching of chanting Abstract names as the only way to Paradise.

By our evil manners, we create Hell in this world but hope to enter an eternal Paradise. Very absurd!!!

You are right @bluesky bhai, situation is far from ideal. But you have to start somewhere.

Baby steps...
 
People are not educated on mannerisms. The basis of teaching is not honesty, sincerity, or truthfulness, and on the development of other human qualities like respecting others or elders. We abide by the Mullah teaching of chanting Abstract names as the only way to Paradise.

If you so much dislike the mullah why are you hobnobbing with Mullah Bilal and propagandizing the regime change efforts of NATO which is the patron of other BD mullahs ?
 
If you so much dislike the mullah why are you hobnobbing with Mullah Bilal and propagandizing the regime change efforts of NATO which is the patron of other BD mullahs ?
BAL and Indian Modi have engraved in your mind that BNP is a Mullah institution. BNP is similarly progressive as BAL with less trend of corruption.

But Jamaat is a Mullah group though not a Taliban. But all Mullah groups love to center their minds on theology, and BD needs to deal with the progress of the country which is not forthcoming because people remain stuck in the 7th-century Mullah teachings.

But, sometimes you come with Mulla thinking and sometimes with communism.
 
BAL and Indian Modi have engraved in your mind that BNP is a Mullah institution.

Modi ? LOL, he and me stand on opposite sides, far opposite. The Indian nationalists / Bhakts here used to call me Mullah Jamahir and sometimes "Islamist under Communist disguise".

BNP is similarly progressive as BAL with less trend of corruption.

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But Jamaat is a Mullah group though not a Taliban.

Really ? So these are simple people and sophisticates and intellectuals who are great lovers of the ladies ?
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Are they angry or disappointed or unhappy with these self-misogynist "females" ?

Group of Bangladeshi Muslim Women Demands End to ID Photo Requirement​

April 30, 2022 1:15 AM

Members of Mahila Anjuman form a human chain in front of Dhaka press club with placards and banners demanding the removal of photos from NID. (Faisal Mahmud/VOA)

Members of Mahila Anjuman form a human chain in front of Dhaka press club with placards and banners demanding the removal of photos from NID. (Faisal Mahmud/VOA)

DHAKA, BANGLADESH —

About 150 women, all clad in full black burqas and niqabs – veils – held a press conference at Dhaka’s National Press club last month demanding the end of the requirement for photos in Bangladesh’s national identification card system.

The March 21 event was organized by Mahila Anjuman, a Muslim women’s organization. Advocates of the change see the requirement as a civil rights issue and an obstacle to obtaining public benefits.

They demanded that the photos be replaced by the use of biometric information, such as fingerprints, on the grounds that under Islam, women should not show their faces in public. They say their commitment to this religious principle is preventing them from obtaining identification cards.

According to Mahila Anjuman, tens of thousands of women are being denied the cards because they refuse to submit to photos. Officials at Bangladesh’s Election Commission said they do not have data on how many such women there are.

Religious Affairs Ministry Secretary Kazi Enamul Hasan told VOA that the government has every intention of making sure that all the country’s citizens get their identification cards.

“This is a very sensitive issue, as Bangladesh is a Muslim-majority nation and a huge part of our population is very pious and practicing. We will see how this issue can be resolved,” he said.

Two days after the press conference, a group of female students at Cumilla University, a public school, formed a human chain at their campus, demanding an end to the photo requirement for university admissions tests and saying they wanted biometric information to be used for student identification cards.

Bangladesh’s High Court issued a preliminary ruling at the beginning of March asking why the ID cards cannot be issued using biometric data in a case brought by Sumaiya Ahmed Muna, whose application for her national identification card without photos was denied. The respondents, who include various government officials, have not replied.

The incidents have sparked a heated debate in the country’s social media between those claiming veiled women have the democratic and civil right to get national ID cards without providing photos and those saying the rules cannot be bent for one group, pointing to security and other issues.

Logic behind the demand

Mahila Anjuman spokesperson Sharmin Yeasmin, whose organization is sponsored by Rajarbagh Darbar Sharif, a conservative Islamic organization that practices Sufism, told VOA that they wanted the removal of the photos because they strictly follow Islam.
Referring to different verses of the Quran, she said Islam does not recommend that women show their faces in public.

“There are hundreds of thousands of women in Bangladesh who wear full niqab and don’t show their faces in public. So they don’t take photos. As they don’t take photos, they can’t have their NIDs,” she said.

Members of Mahila Anjuman speak at the press conference at the Dhaka press club. (Faisal Mahmud/VOA)

Members of Mahila Anjuman speak at the press conference at the Dhaka press club. (Faisal Mahmud/VOA)

Yeasmin said biometric verification methods such as fingerprints are enough to identify someone.
“This sort of identification is not expensive now and is being widely used, along with photo identification. So we are demanding that it be the only method used,” she said.

When asked whether veiled women like her must take photos for passports to make the hajj, Yeasmin said most of the Bangladeshi veiled women involved here are not wealthy enough to make the hajj and it is not their immediate concern.

“You have to understand that our immediate concern is to get NIDs, not passports. Many of the women who wear niqabs can’t even draw their husband’s pension money as they don’t have NIDs,” she told VOA.

Muna, who filed the written petition with the High Court, told VOA she had tried to obtain an ID card through regular channels before initiating a legal proceeding.
“I tried to resolve it with the Election Commission, which issues the NID, but as they couldn’t do anything, I went to High Court,” she said.

Inconsistency and security issues

Some experts on Islamic rulings said some interpretations allow Muslim women to take photos.
Asif Shibgat Bhuiyan, a popular Bangladeshi blogger on Islamic jurisprudence, told VOA that he believes that the face itself does not need to be covered, so veils are not obligatory.

“However there are scholars who do deem it as mandatory. Obviously, those who are demanding the necessity of photo from NID are following the latter opinion and hence they won't look favorably at my opinion anyway,” he said.

“But if they do conform to taking photos for passports and deem it permissible for necessity then they should logically apply the same ruling for NID. Any demand needs to be logically consistent to be taken seriously; otherwise, it hurts the very cause for which the demands are being made at the first place,” Bhuiyan said.

Shahadat Hossain, a former election commissioner who was in charge of the government’s project to digitize national identification cards, said issuance of ID cards without photos would create security problems. “It is not possible to check biometric variables like fingerprints at all security checkpoints,” he said.

“When I was the project director of the NID project, we consulted with the Islamic preachers, as some of the women also raised the issue of photo identification at that time. Many of the preachers gave rulings that Islam allows women to take photos. I don’t know why this issue is resurfaced again,” he said.

Saimum Parvez, a fellow at Vrije University of Brussels, who has researched political Islam in Bangladesh, termed the women’s demand irrational, inconsistent with religious directives, and incompatible with Bangladesh’s current governance system.

“We should keep in mind that this issue is more political than religious. The Bangladeshi Muslims are, in general, very pious, and religion has been a significant factor in their lives. This irrational demand in public, and the support behind the demand, is a relatively new phenomenon,” he said.
“I think a combination of factors work simultaneously behind engendering this type of orthodoxy, including the present government’s Islamist appeasement policy, a sense of victimization among the Islamists, a pervasive social Islamization, and a lack of trust in the existing governance system,” Parvez said.
“The Awami League government,” he said, referring to Bangladesh’s current government, “which portrayed itself as secular, befriended conservative Islamists and appeased them to gain the political legitimacy of their authoritarian regime.”

But all Mullah groups love to center their minds on theology, and BD needs to deal with the progress of the country which is not forthcoming because people remain stuck in the 7th-century Mullah teachings.

The 7th century was not mullah teachings. The mullah - priest - doesn't have foundation in original Islam. Among the various simplifications and rationalizations that Hazrat Muhammad and his comrades brought was the abolition of priesthood, at least a prohibition. 7th century Islamic ideas are far far sophisticated than what Hinduism has even now or what the Western establishment has now. If you want sample of True Islam ( from the very same 7th century ) I quote from this thread of mine from 2015 whose OP is an article by an Indian Christian lady who married an Indian Muslim not under desi Christian law, not under Indian civil law but under Islamic marriage law because it gave her greater socio-economic rights in case of divorce. And yes, divorce was first codified under Islam 1400 years ago which most Hindu women are bereft of still :
Maneka Gandhi, minister of women and child development, recently gave a call for prenuptial agreements to be recognised in India. According to her, if the terms for division of property, guardianship of children and spousal support are settled prior to marriage, divorces will be less acrimonious and disputes could be resolved expeditiously.

In the discussions that followed, as to whether such a step will, in fact, safeguard the rights of women, there was no mention that this concept is already rooted in Islamic law of marriage since the 7th century. The nikahnama, an Islamic marriage contract is, in fact, a prenuptial agreement that outlines the rights and responsibilities of the parties and provides for conditions to be included for safeguarding a woman’s rights upon marriage.

One wonders why a reference to the Islamic law was not made either by the minister or other experts. Married Muslim women, we find, are often on a higher and more secure footing than their counterparts from other religions. In fact, as a Christian marrying a Muslim, I chose to marry under the Muslim personal law, even over the seemingly modern Special Marriage Act, 1954, to better secure my economic rights. My mehr was a house in my name and my nikahnama includes necessary clauses to safeguard my and my children’s rights. My husband’s family members were witness to this document, which is registered and enforceable by law.

When we examine marriage laws in their historic context, it is interesting to note that the universally accepted notion that marriages are contractual rather than sacramental originates in Muslim law, which was accepted by the French law only in the 1800s and incorporated into the English law in the 1850s and became part of codified Hindu law as late as 1955. Today it appears to be the most practical way of dealing with the institution of marriage. Treating marriage as a sacrament which binds the parties for life has resulted in some of the most discriminatory practices against women such as sati and denial of right to divorce and remarriage, even in the most adverse conditions.

The cornerstone of a Muslim marriage is consent, ejab-o-qubul (proposal and acceptance) and requires the bride to accept the marriage proposal on her own free will. This freedom to consent (or refuse), which was given to Muslim women 1,400 years ago, is still not available under Hindu law since sacramental rituals such as saptapadi and kanya dan (seven steps round the nuptial fire and gifting of the bride to the groom) still form essential ceremonies of a Hindu marriage. Even after the codification of Hindu law, the notion of consent is not built into the marriage ceremonies.

The contract of marriage (nikahnama) allows for negotiated terms and conditions, it can also include the right to a delegated divorce (talaq-e-tafweez) where the woman is delegated the right to divorce her husband if any of the negotiated terms and conditions are violated.

Mehr is another unique concept of Muslim law meant to safeguard the financial future of the wife. It is an obligation, not a choice, and can be in the form of cash, valuables or securities. While there is no ceiling, a minimum amount to provide her security after marriage must be stipulated. This is a more beneficial concept than streedhan which is given by choice and usually by the natal family. In addition to Mehr, at the time of divorce, a Muslim woman has the right to fair and reasonable settlement, and this is statutorily recognised under the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986 as per the 2001 ruling of the Supreme Court in the Daniel Latifi case.

It is also important to address polygamy and triple talaq, two aspects of Muslim law which are generally used to discredit the community and argue in favour of a uniform civil code. While sharia law permits a man to have four wives (before 1956 Hindu law permitted unrestrained polygamy), it mandates equal treatment of all wives. If a man is not able to meet these conditions, he is not permitted to marry more than one woman. (Quran 4:3; Yusuf Ali’s translation)

On the other hand, though codification introduced monogamy for Hindus, the ground reality has not changed and Hindu men continue to be bigamous or polygamous. The most disturbing aspect is that while men in bigamous/adulterous relationships are allowed to go scot-free, it is the women who are made to pay the price. Women in invalid relationships with Hindu men are denied maintenance and protection and are referred to as “mistresses” and “concubines”, concepts specific to the uncodified Hindu law. Any attempt to codify Muslim law to bring in legal monogamy should not end up subjecting Muslim women to a plight similar to that of a Hindu second wife. This is an important concern which needs to be taken into account while reforming the Muslim law.

And lastly, the much maligned triple talaq or talaq-ul-biddat, which the Prophet himself considered as the most inappropriate form of divorce. Fortunately, in 2002, in Shamim Ara vs State of Uttar Pradesh & others, the Supreme Court laid down strict Quranic injunctions which must be followed at the time of pronouncing talaq, hence now fraudulent practices adopted by errant husbands (including email and SMS talaq) can no longer constitute valid talaq. Yet, after a decade and a half, very few know challenge the validity of such divorces in court as they are unaware about this ruling.

Though Muslim law stipulates many different ways to end a marriage, including a woman’s right to dissolve her marriage (khula), divorce by mutual consent (mubarra), delegated divorce (talaq-e-tafweez), judicial divorce (fasq) and dissolution under Muslim Marriage Act


But, sometimes you come with Mulla thinking and sometimes with communism.

Show one post where I have been a mullah. One post in all my eight years here and 27,460 posts.
 
indian plant is largest in asia let alone south asia

With a capacity of 342 million litres per day, Bharwara, on the outskirts of Lucknow, is Asia's largest sewage treatment plant
 
Don't you know that 500,000 cubic meters ≈ 500 million liters?
indian plant is largest in asia let alone south asia

With a capacity of 342 million litres per day, Bharwara, on the outskirts of Lucknow, is Asia's largest sewage treatment plant
 
Modi ? LOL, he and me stand on opposite sides, far opposite. The Indian nationalists / Bhakts here used to call me Mullah Jamahir and sometimes "Islamist under Communist disguise".



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Really ? So these are simple people and sophisticates and intellectuals who are great lovers of the ladies ?
IMG-20221213-WA0009.jpg

Jamaat.jpg

Pakistan-Jamaat_0.jpg


Are they angry or disappointed or unhappy with these self-misogynist "females" ?




The 7th century was not mullah teachings. The mullah - priest - doesn't have foundation in original Islam. Among the various simplifications and rationalizations that Hazrat Muhammad and his comrades brought was the abolition of priesthood, at least a prohibition. 7th century Islamic ideas are far far sophisticated than what Hinduism has even now or what the Western establishment has now. If you want sample of True Islam ( from the very same 7th century ) I quote from this thread of mine from 2015 whose OP is an article by an Indian Christian lady who married an Indian Muslim not under desi Christian law, not under Indian civil law but under Islamic marriage law because it gave her greater socio-economic rights in case of divorce. And yes, divorce was first codified under Islam 1400 years ago which most Hindu women are bereft of still :





Show one post where I have been a mullah. One post in all my eight years here and 27,460 posts.

This guy is being willingly dumb - his 'secular' BNP is literally in coalition with Jamaat. The last time they ruled BD, they brought jamaat with them - bringing a huge rise in terrorism
 
Don't you know that 500,000 cubic meters ≈ 500 million liters?

I posted the news report verbatim. Don't know the context and relevancy of the terms, otherwise I would've mentioned it so people would know. However Dhaka is a larger city than Lucknow. Lucknow has 3 Million people and Dhaka has 22 Million.

Power China will also be setting up other sewage processing plants in other cities, work has started I believe.
 
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I posted the news report verbatim. Don't know the context and relevancy of the terms, otherwise I would've mentioned it so people would know. However Dhaka is a larger city than Lucknow. Lucknow has 3 Million people and Dhaka has 22 Million.

Power China will also be setting up other sewage processing plants in other cities, work has started I believe.
should be
 

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