ASEAN breaks deadlock on South China Sea, Beijing thanks Cambodia for support

[shah1398]

As expected ASEAN has done the right thing. People of ASEN want to be part of community of proserity.
In a couple of month everyone will forget about this artificial mess in SCS and move on.

We have infrastructure to build and economies to grow. No time to waste in things that are not constructive.

Hopefully, Philipines can request to join the OBOR. IT will help them come out of economic mess. BeiJing must help Manila in infrastructure and economy.

China has brought in the concept of development/economical friendship cum alliances. This is a move 180 degree opposite to western alliances which basically started militarily and then transformed into economic zones. Philippines is heavily dictated by US and wud only me able to give its own point of view when get rid of the clutches of US. Nonetheless the new President of Philippines apparently is a bold person who might be able to mend its relations with China.
@Zhu Rong Zheng Yang

I see you have UAE flags for both. So a question, how is UAE any different?

Just Curious.

Was he really displaying UAE flags? Cz now its Afghanistan one.

 

[Jlaw]

In a ruling by the U.N.-backed Permanent Court of Arbitration on July 12, the Philippines won an emphatic legal victory over China on the dispute.

LOL, what rubbish is this. It's already clear the ruling is not backed by UN. I stopped reading after this.

 

[shah1398]

LOL, what rubbish is this. It's already clear the ruling is not backed by UN. I stopped reading after this.

U mean to say this I guess

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...ed-nations-stresses-separation-hague-tribunal

Extract from it is:

"The Permanent Court of Arbitration rents space in the same building as the UN’s International Court of Justice, but the two organisations are not related"

In simple words UN has asked the parties not to mention it in so called SCS conflict's ruling of Hague tribunal. An early victory for China as UN has distanced itself from the issue.

 

[Jlaw]

U mean to say this I guess

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...ed-nations-stresses-separation-hague-tribunal

Extract from it is:

"The Permanent Court of Arbitration rents space in the same building as the UN’s International Court of Justice, but the two organisations are not related"

In simple words UN has asked the parties not to mention it in so called SCS conflict's ruling of Hague tribunal. An early victory for China as UN has distanced itself from the issue.

I watched local news after the ruling and a UN rep came out and said that PCA is not affiliated with the UN nor is it a UN organization. But I guess main western media like to leave that part out.

 

[Hellfire]

Was he really displaying UAE flags? Cz now its Afghanistan one.

Yup. So was asking his logic .... funny! Indeed he is displaying Afghani flags now, now even I am doubting myself ... lol

Thanks

 

[cnleio]

Cambodian Hun Sen is a strong leader in the region, during past time playing balance between U.S, China, Vietnam ... it's obviously Hun Sen now pro-China can get more economy & arms supports from BeiJing. And China also support Hun Sen government to make strong in the Mekong region.

BeiJing support Vietnam's competitor in the Indo-China Peninsula, just like ppl said "enemy's enemy is the friend."

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Many thanks for the feedback.
Not, if we use INNOVATION and CREATIVITY to solve problems.
Let's drop the old stereotype ( By the Book ) thinking.
Remember at one time China is also extremely dirt poor.
How can China arrive at where we are now ?

Building Innovative and Creative Infrastructure for CAMBODIA and LAOS are the keys.

Imagine, if our True China Friendly nations all become selfish, and they do not want to Loudly Defend China.
Imagine, if Russia told PRC that -- China you are on your own against ( United Satan + JAPAN + INDIA + all western Anglo Saxon nations ). Russia says to PRC -- Russia can not afford to get involved.
What will happen to PRC Long Term Survival ??
PRC and Chinese will disappear quickly from this Earth.

IMHO, I think SELFISHNESS and ( PROFIT above Everything )
are 2 of Chinese Society sickness that we need to remove immediately.
Let's ponder -- what are RooT Causes of our Chinese Society Lack of FAIRNESS and INJUSTICE ??
IMHO, many of the RooT Causes are originating from our own Chinese Cultural weakness.
Such as concept of ( Guan Wo Shen Me Shi ) ... ...

Then, if there is a severe problem, we blame PRC Central Gov. for not managing the nation properly.
For Example:
Non--Smoking Law inside Hospitals and No--Spitting Law and Environmental Pollutions ... ...
Why is so difficult to implement the Law ?
Because, General public refuse to get involved and participate smartly.
Do you agree ??

Bro, Ive always been of the opinion that China is large enough to single handedly plough through any problems in the arena of international politics and relations. Allies and friends are good but at the end of the day Chinese can only count on fellow Chinese.

Herein lies the problem. Chinese cannot rely on fellow countrymen because there are too many sellouts and Hanjian. Forget the enemies of the U.S.A, Japan and the pinoys. The true enemies have ALWAYS been from within.

Kill the traitors, kill the sellouts, kill the pretentious shallow wastrels with too much money and petty minds, kill the nasty fcukers who consume all things rare and endangered and kill the corrupt officials.

Once the population is cleansed of trash obstacles like Japan and the USA will seem like ant hills on a lawn.

 

[Place Of Space]

Communist and fascist is the same , take a look at CHina, Under China the cant' vote for a leader, internet is censored , they cant raise their grievance , freedom of expression is non existent , they killed their own who oppose and feed by communist fake propaganda since birth

"Under China the cant' vote for a leader"
Chinese leaders after Deng Xiaoping are elected, but not the American-like one person one vote. We observe our Taiwan brothers' election, honestly saying, which has less and less attractions to Chinese. @TaiShang , no offence, I just speak the main opinions among us...by the way, @Joe Shearer , Chinese like to migrate to US, Australia, Western Europe, because they are rich nations, rarely Chinese would migrate to India, though it is labelled the largest democratic nation.

Intenet censored is happending in evey nation, each nation concerns different content. No country on this planet can confidently vow they are 100 percent safe...

"they cant raise their grievance"
My grievance is that am not millionair and my wife is not Miss Philippine...hey, look, I raise my grievance, wish the grievance bring me some help. @AndrewJin What's your grievance?

"freedom of expression is non existent"
We have different topics, standard and limit referring to freedom of expression. I support Mindanao as a muslim nation achieve independence. It is a very free expression. @waz what's your opinion of freedom of expression? Can we say whatever we want?

"they killed their own who oppose and feed by communist fake propaganda since birth"
Communist propaganda and your Catholicism propaganda is the same. You believe in it, it exist; you don't believe in it, it's nothing. About the "killed. their own.." bull5hit, It is worthless to reply.

In sum,
1. All you said is America system. There already an America exist, we don't want to be another one. China politcial system can solve problem America can't solve. China is now developing and exploring a new mode human never experienced. Napoleon failed in France by kingdoms siege, Napoleonism succeed in America. USSR failed, who knows China can't be sucessful. Pray for us, even if we failed, we have enough chance of chaning. It says the Earth still can exist billions of years, time is enough. Time will prove everything.
2. Facing nation and people's interests, social ideology become less significant. The SCS is Chinese core interests. @Kiss_of_the_Dragon Will you give up the SCS even if China is not socialism country any more?

 

[Joe Shearer]

"Under China the cant' vote for a leader"
Chinese leaders after Deng Xiaoping are elected, but not the American-like one person one vote. We observe our Taiwan brothers' election, honestly saying, which has less and less attractions to Chinese. @TaiShang , no offence, I just speak the main opinions among us...by the way, @Joe Shearer , Chinese like to migrate to US, Australia, Western Europe, because they are rich nations, rarely Chinese would migrate to India, though it is labelled the largest democratic nation.

Intenet censored is happending in evey nation, each nation concerns different content. No country on this planet can confidently vow they are 100 percent safe...

"they cant raise their grievance"
My grievance is that am not millionair and my wife is not Miss Philippine...hey, look, I raise my grievance, wish the grievance bring me some help. @AndrewJin What's your grievance?

"freedom of expression is non existent"
We have different topics, standard and limit referring to freedom of expression. I support Mindanao as a muslim nation achieve independence. It is a very free expression. @waz what's your opinion of freedom of expression? Can we say whatever we want?

"they killed their own who oppose and feed by communist fake propaganda since birth"
Communist propaganda and your Catholicism propaganda is the same. You believe in it, it exist; you don't believe in it, it's nothing. About the "killed. their own.." bull5hit, It is worthless to reply.

In sum,
1. All you said is America system. There already an America exist, we don't want to be another one. China politcial system can solve problem America can't solve. China is now developing and exploring a new mode human never experienced. Napoleon failed in France by kingdoms siege, Napoleonism succeed in America. USSR failed, who knows China can't be sucessful. Pray for us, even if we failed, we have enough chance of chaning. It says the Earth still can exist billions of years, time is enough. Time will prove everything.
2. Facing nation and people's interests, social ideology become less significant. The SCS is Chinese core interests. @Kiss_of_the_Dragon Will you give up the SCS even if China is not socialism country any more?

What was that all about? And why did you tag me with that extremely silly remark? Are you aware of how many Chinese ethnic people live in India? And can you tell me how many Chinese citizens you have of Indian origin?

I am rapidly losing my respect for Chinese members given this kind of stupid post.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Yup. So was asking his logic .... funny! Indeed he is displaying Afghani flags now, now even I am doubting myself ... lol

Thanks

He travels to countries on work contracts and changes to destination nation's flags

 

[waz]

"It is a very free expression. @waz what's your opinion of freedom of expression? Can we say whatever we want?

Within reasonable bounds bro.

 

[Viet]

Cambodian Hun Sen is a strong leader in the region, during past time playing balance between U.S, China, Vietnam ... it's obviously Hun Sen now pro-China can get more economy & arms supports from BeiJing. And China also support Hun Sen government to make strong in the Mekong region.

BeiJing support Vietnam's competitor in the Indo-China Peninsula, just like ppl said "enemy's enemy is the friend."
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Wrong. Hun Sen is just an opportunist. He takes your money and says what you wants him to say. $600 millions. In privat talks he despises you. How much do you want to bribe him next year?

$900 millions?

In 2 years?

$1,200 millions?

How long do you want to play the game?

If you give me money, I would call you as the new king of China.

 

[Place Of Space]

What was that all about? And why did you tag me with that extremely silly remark? Are you aware of how many Chinese ethnic people live in India? And can you tell me how many Chinese citizens you have of Indian origin?

I am rapidly losing my respect for Chinese members given this kind of stupid post.

Tag you because I can find this one Indian "prefessional" often appear in China and Far east block. American-like election system is very chaming in the Philipines and maybe as well in Indian, but the attraction is less than being a rich developed nation to Chinese. We want to make China an advanced nation firstly. By the way, this is what I want to say, you didn/t have to reply.
As to nations' situation all over the world, it's not hard to acheive election system one person one vote, but it is very hard to become advanced nation, especially the West have advanced much ahead.

Within reasonable bounds bro.

It seems attacking and bashing China is freedon of expression, we reacting or supporting China is propaganda, this buddy want to told me. Freedom of expression is not as simple as within reasonable bounds. "Communist and fascist is the same", is this within or beyond reasonable bounds?

 

[Hellfire]

Tag you because I can find this one Indian "prefessional" often appear in China and Far east block. American-like election system is very chaming in the Philipines and maybe as well in Indian, but the attraction is less than being a rich developed nation to Chinese. We want to make China an advanced nation firstly. By the way, this is what I want to say, you didn/t have to reply.
As to nations' situation all over the world, it's not hard to acheive election system one person one vote, but it is very hard to become advanced nation, especially the West have advanced much ahead.

Let me trouble you with an answer on that.

Analyse the rise and fall of nations. It is like a sine wave.

Coming back, I recall a BBC program wherein they were asking a couple of young 'urbane' girls of Shanghai about their shopping trends etc etc .. and the typical Western Brands figured in their favourites. Then the wily anchor asked them about democracy and I recall what one of them said

'why would I want a democracy when I have a government which is giving me the infrastructure and the employment that I need to live my life comfortably and which is taking the country on path of progress'

I was impressed. But then, as people become comfortable with their lives, they have the tendency to want more - and therein lies the catch.

Cheers

 

[Joe Shearer]

Tag you because I can find this one Indian "prefessional" often appear in China and Far east block. American-like election system is very chaming in the Philipines and maybe as well in Indian, but the attraction is less than being a rich developed nation to Chinese. We want to make China an advanced nation firstly. By the way, this is what I want to say, you didn/t have to reply.
As to nations' situation all over the world, it's not hard to acheive election system one person one vote, but it is very hard to become advanced nation, especially the West have advanced much ahead.

I see.

Well, the fact remains that the PRC is a single-party dictatorship, and one that managed to kill millions of its citizens, on its quest for richness and development. We managed not to do that.

If you ask me, and I note that you tagged me without needing me to reply, I would rather that we were less rich and more free.

But that's my opinion. I am allowed to have it, and I am also allowed to have the opinion that we should be like China. You aren't allowed your own opinion. That is the difference.

Your saying that you are less attracted to freedom than to development would be more convincing if we knew that you do not have to follow somebody else's opinion. That you were free to disagree.