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Have been browsing through JF-17, F-16 and other threads, all seems to be either comparison or why X won't stand a chance against Y.
I would like to understand What makes a great fighter![Undecided :undecided: :undecided:](/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/cute/undecided.gif)
The top dog, always dropped around is SU-30MKM/I/A, Typhoon, F-16 etc.
I am sure each deserve the hype and reputation. But sometimes you also wonder how much each is a fighter due to "airframe" and "avionics", lets dissect it for what they are..
Also most may agree that a MIG-21, JF-17, LCA, may not match against above and may lose out 10 times out of 10, But do they lose out by same margin, if 10 Mig-21 fight 10 SU-30, TYPHONE, F-16 ??
Certainly not and if we bring the GCI and AWACS into consideration may be they hold out more than we expected.
The other part is what makes a good fighter??
I would welcome if we can run a scenario, where a low aircraft like MIG-21 Bison, JF-17 pitted against the above top dogs in a multi aircraft battle. Assume these are defending aircraft, backed by AWACS on both sides. Each one have missiles of similar range and quality.![Mrgreen :D :D](/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mrgreen.gif)
I would like to understand What makes a great fighter
![Undecided :undecided: :undecided:](/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/cute/undecided.gif)
The top dog, always dropped around is SU-30MKM/I/A, Typhoon, F-16 etc.
![su30mkm2b1.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimg10.imageshack.us%2Fimg10%2F1918%2Fsu30mkm2b1.jpg&hash=32994bd3b912b086b063ccb41d68a07c)
![page20typhoon.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fkingmagic.files.wordpress.com%2F2007%2F08%2Fpage20typhoon.jpg&hash=d8f6bb44a78c02888f94dc1e1c258ab8)
![f16iinflightso.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fsamapan.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F10%2Ff16iinflightso.jpg&hash=62c984cc6981dcb76366f694d3eac83b)
I am sure each deserve the hype and reputation. But sometimes you also wonder how much each is a fighter due to "airframe" and "avionics", lets dissect it for what they are..
Also most may agree that a MIG-21, JF-17, LCA, may not match against above and may lose out 10 times out of 10, But do they lose out by same margin, if 10 Mig-21 fight 10 SU-30, TYPHONE, F-16 ??
Certainly not and if we bring the GCI and AWACS into consideration may be they hold out more than we expected.
The other part is what makes a good fighter??
- Airframe (agility, maneuverability ...)
- High thrust to wight
- Avionics (radar, defense suite...)
- Missiles( WVR, BVR...)
I would welcome if we can run a scenario, where a low aircraft like MIG-21 Bison, JF-17 pitted against the above top dogs in a multi aircraft battle. Assume these are defending aircraft, backed by AWACS on both sides. Each one have missiles of similar range and quality.
![Mrgreen :D :D](/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mrgreen.gif)