Air blue A321 was shot down?

[mean_bird]

This report carries credence and merits further discussion. The Airbus in question, one of the safest pax carriers just does not fly into mountains whatever the wx conditions.

I'm pretty sure this is not be a worlds first CFIT accident of a modern airliner. So modern "safe" planes have flown into mountains before usually due to navigational error and compounded by weather conditions.

Accidents do not just happen because of one thing but a series of events. The weather may not be a primary reason but could surely be a contributing factor.

Lets just wait and see what comes out of it.

The investigating bodies of the Airbus Industrie may know the truth of what really happened but will be constrained to openly declare such for the simple reason that Pak and its Govt is in a precarious position and any more of blame gaming may prove to be the last straw. So obviously the imperatives of Geo-politics take precedence over truth.

Airbus and BEA are both involved in this accident. Here's what came out of their preliminary analysis:

"An international team of safety experts believes poor visibility and pilot navigation slipups likely caused last month's crash of a Pakistani airliner that killed 152 people on approach to Islamabad, aviation-industry officials said.

The Airbus A321 operated by Airblue Ltd. was en route from Karachi when it flew into heavily forested hills as it was circling to land at the Islamabad airport in fog and rain. Preliminary information retrieved from the plane's flight-data recorder, according to officials familiar with the details, indicates that its engines, flight-control systems and other onboard equipment operated normally before impact.

Readouts of the recovered "black box," these officials said, also indicate that the cockpit crew at the last moment may have realized the jetliner was on a collision course with the slope and apparently tried to climb out of danger. The plane impacted near a ridge of the Margalla Hills. Early reports indicated that many flights into Islamabad had been cancelled or diverted that morning due to poor visibility, but some eyewitnesses said the weather improved somewhat before the Airblue plane's approach"


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The construct as it stands clearly of this case is, if the Aicraft had strayed into secure no-fly zone of Islamabad, the capital city - Pak security jittery as it is, will shoot it down and ask questions later.

Now is the time for everyone to ask Questions.

Now is the time for everyone to wait for the report first before asking questions unless they have some definitive evidence. The only other thing we should do now is file a petition or something and make this and all other aircraft investigation reports public.

 

[Cheetah786]

commercial airliners carries all its fuel in its belly ist bullet would have destroyed it on impact so debris would have been all over the area it was supposedly shoot down.

second the guns this article talks of all not exactly quite so people in the area would have herd firing first.

This is propaganda news nothing more nothing less.

 

[somebozo]

News at random from blogspot speaks a lot about credibility. Even the most automatic air defence systems have aircraft signature verification system and can differencite between a millitary jet or passenger carrier. This thread should be closed.

 

[Condor]

I'm pretty sure this is not be a worlds first CFIT accident of a modern airliner. So modern "safe" planes have flown into mountains before usually due to navigational error and compounded by weather conditions.
Accidents do not just happen because of one thing but a series of events. The weather may not be a primary reason but could surely be a contributing factor.
Lets just wait and see what comes out of it.

Airbus and BEA are both involved in this accident. Here's what came out of their preliminary analysis:

"An international team of safety experts believes poor visibility and pilot navigation slipups likely caused last month's crash of a Pakistani airliner that killed 152 people on approach to Islamabad, aviation-industry officials said.
The Airbus A321 operated by Airblue Ltd. was en route from Karachi when it flew into heavily forested hills as it was circling to land at the Islamabad airport in fog and rain. Preliminary information retrieved from the plane's flight-data recorder, according to officials familiar with the details, indicates that its engines, flight-control systems and other onboard equipment operated normally before impact.
Readouts of the recovered "black box," these officials said, also indicate that the cockpit crew at the last moment may have realized the jetliner was on a collision course with the slope and apparently tried to climb out of danger. The plane impacted near a ridge of the Margalla Hills. Early reports indicated that many flights into Islamabad had been cancelled or diverted that morning due to poor visibility, but some eyewitnesses said the weather improved somewhat before the Airblue plane's approach"


Full article

Now is the time for everyone to wait for the report first before asking questions unless they have some definitive evidence. The only other thing we should do now is file a petition or something and make this and all other aircraft investigation reports public.

Yes, I also had the chance to go thru the preliminary findings of the Black box to arrive at the conclusion that if there were no abrupt variations of engine temp and pressures until the moment of
impact then of course any wild speculation is out of place here.

Even so, it is a sad story, though not for the first time and neither the last that such experienced Aircrews could mess up things - especially on the home base where they must have practiced for
years.

 

[True_Pakistan_Zindabad]

This tops it off. Welcome to the deepest depths of stupidity and insensitivity.