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Updated: July 30, 2015 15:25 IST
Afghan Taliban indicate pullout of peace talks in Pakistan - The Hindu


The Afghan Taliban, who have been fighting to topple the Kabul government for almost 14 years, said on Thursday they are “not aware” of a new round of peace talks due the following day in Pakistan a statement indicating the group may be pulling out of the negotiations.

The apparent rejection of the talks comes a day after Kabul announced the death of the Taliban’s reclusive leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, but it was not immediately clear if the two developments were connected.

The Afghan intelligence service asserted on Wednesday that Mullah Omar died in a Karachi hospital more than two years ago. In Washington, the U.S. government said they considered the report of the Taliban leader’s death credible, though it was not confirmed by the Taliban or Pakistan.

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani’s office said Mullah Omar’s death would strengthen conditions for the peace process, which has been his priority since he took office last year.

The first round of the official, face-to-face discussions was hosted by Islamabad earlier this month. The meeting was supervised by U.S. and Chinese representatives and ended with both sides agreeing to meet again a significant progress in itself.

This week, Afghan and Pakistani officials said the second round would take place on Friday, in the Pakistani resort town of Murree. But Thursday’s statement from the Taliban, who call themselves the “Islamic Emirate” contradicted that.

“The Islamic Emirate has handed all agency powers in this regard to its Political Office and they are not aware of any such process,” the statement said, referring to the talks.

The statement made no mention of Mullah Omar or his reported death. The Afghan government has not presented any evidence to back up its claim that the Taliban leader is dead and Kabul did not have an immediate comment on the Taliban statement. Mr. Ghani’s office said he had flown to Germany on Wednesday for minor medical treatment.

The Taliban have been fighting to overthrow the Afghan government since 2001, when the United States led an invasion to topple its extremist regime.

The allegedly enduring leadership of Mullah Omar, despite numerous past reports of his death, had provided a unifying force for fighters on the ground and for those on both sides who have pushed the peace process forward in the months since Mr. Ghani took office.

If confirmed, his removal creates a leadership vacuum in the Taliban, and appears to have exposed rifts at the top of the organisation, which is widely believed to be split among those who support and reject contact with Ghani’s government.

Political analyst Ahmad Saeedi said the Taliban’s statement could signal a total rejection of the peace process by the movement. “I’m pretty sure there will be no peace deal,” he said.

Observers see a further fracturing within Taliban ranks likely to lead to a power struggle. Already, the Islamic State group, which has taken control of large parts of Iraq and Syria, is believed to have recruited some disaffected Taliban members to its ranks as it tries to establish a presence in Afghanistan.

For his part, Mr. Ghani has sought Pakistan’s help in bringing the Taliban to the negotiations, since Islamabad is believed to wield influence over the group.

A diplomat based in Kabul familiar with the peace process told The Associated Press that the “government’s position has been since Ashraf Ghani became president that the real negotiation is between Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

The diplomat spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to reporters on the ongoing talks.

After the U.S.-led invasion, remnants of the Taliban led by Mullah Omar fled over the border into Pakistan, where they are believed to have the protection of Islamabad. Mullah Omar has not been seen in public since then, though statements have been issued in his name giving credence to Taliban denials of his death.

Most recently, a statement purportedly by Mullah Omar was issued on the occasion of this month’s Eid-al-Fitr holiday, expressing support for the peace talks.
 
what does it means, why exactly are they pulling out from talks ?
 
what does it means, why exactly are they pulling out from talks ?

The Afghan Taliban leadership asked for the postponement, in view of the reports regarding the death of Mullah Omar and the resulting uncertainty. No one knows if they will return for talks or not but they are sad after the demise of their one eyed emir.
 
The Afghan Taliban leadership asked for the postponement, in view of the reports regarding the death of Mullah Omar and the resulting uncertainty. No one knows if they will return for talks or not but they are sad after the demise of their one eyed emir.


But the news of death of Mullah Omar might be a surprise for the world but why for taliban they might have been the first to know since long when he died 2 yrs back
 
Congratulations to India and BBC , on releasing this info and henceforth sabotaging the peace talks and condolences to the afghan people .Sadly , the three decade long civil war will continue to wreak havoc on the afghan people.

Although he can be regarded as a terrorist ,but one which could be brought to the table . His death will make Daesh's presence stronger and there is one thing we know about ISIS in syria and iraq is that they will never sue for peace. Diplomacy is an idea unheard off to the Deash leaders. Best of luck Afghanistan.
 
Congratulations to India and BBC , on releasing this info and henceforth sabotaging the peace talks and condolences to the afghan people .Sadly , the three decade long civil war will continue to wreak havoc on the afghan people.

Although he can be regarded as a terrorist ,but one which could be brought to the table . His death will make Daesh's presence stronger and there is one thing we know about ISIS in syria and iraq is that they will never sue for peace. Diplomacy is an idea unheard off to the Deash leaders. Best of luck Afghanistan.
why either Taliban or DAESH ?
why not No DAESH no Taliban, only and only Afghanistan
 
I am sure everyone would agree that an Afghanistan having no Daesh and no Taliban would be desirable , but so would an Afghanistan having no Opium trade , no corruption , no foreign dependance and no deep rooted ethnic tensions.
Anyone who knows a little bit of history about Afghanistan , knows that this is just "Wishfull Thinking" .
Ghani doesnt have that luxury and so he has to accept certain ground realities and be pragmatic in his approach.The fact is that the Taliban even with after the troop surge and operation Marjah have not only been able to sustain but also increase their attacks ( last year was the most deadliest year in the 11 year war) . This tells us that this conflict is much more than an insurgency , infact it's more of a border line civil war. A stark continuation of the civil war of the 90s.
So can Ghani sab afford to battle the Taliban for ten more years or will he consider dialogue with a group which itself seems to be jousting for power with IS.
 
I am sure everyone would agree that an Afghanistan having no Daesh and no Taliban would be desirable , but so would an Afghanistan having no Opium trade , no corruption , no foreign dependance and no deep rooted ethnic tensions.
Anyone who knows a little bit of history about Afghanistan , knows that this is just "Wishfull Thinking" .
Ghani doesnt have that luxury and so he has to accept certain ground realities and be pragmatic in his approach.The fact is that the Taliban even with after the troop surge and operation Marjah have not only been able to sustain but also increase their attacks ( last year was the most deadliest year in the 11 year war) . This tells us that this conflict is much more than an insurgency , infact it's more of a border line civil war. A stark continuation of the civil war of the 90s.
So can Ghani sab afford to battle the Taliban for ten more years or will he consider dialogue with a group which itself seems to be jousting for power with IS.
If isis is comming to Afganistan then it will fight with taliban for the space,and if isis spreads what do you do then will you want to talk to them as well.
The reason taliban survived is because they had the manoeuvre space,when ever they where being knocked out they fall back move into Pakistan and recoup and regroup.if Pakistan had applied the pressure from this end as well they would have been dented beyond repair,but Pakistan needs them for leverage in Afganistan.
 
Not necessarily , Taliban are a decentralized group of factions in rebellion. To say that they could not be eliminated because they regrouped in Pakistan is based on wrong assumptions. Saying that they regrouped in pakistan would indicate that they were driven out , which is not true . Why would they move to Pakistan, when they hold large areas of land in their own soil , have shadow governers in several districts and have a widespread presence even in the northern provinces.

ANA was never robust enough to fully deal with this insurgency.They have long-standing and ongoing problems with accountability and personnel tracking They have a very high desertion rate as well, this year their numbers declined by 8.5 percent .

Given the increase in number of attacks and causalities , one can conclude that the fighting season this year has been very tough , probably the worst in a decade . Now since the operation ZEA has cleared most of the so called "safe havens " in waziristan , a fact that is acknowledged by the American themselves , shouldnt the attacks be decreasing ? shouldnt their presence be dwindling ? So your presumption that tribal regions in Pakistan were some how acting as a life support was baseless.
 
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But the news of death of Mullah Omar might be a surprise for the world but why for taliban they might have been the first to know since long when he died 2 yrs back

2 years ago my ***, no one ever heard or seen him since initial US attack in Afghanisstan. he must have died in Tora Bora while OBL escaped.
 
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Ahh...How someone is desperate for this to happen...

I am sorry but there is no such Good News :P like that for you guys. The talks have been delayed after announcement of the death of Mullah Omer, they had to announce there new commander. Now, the Taliban have announced Mullah Akhtar Mansoor as there new leader, he is the guy who happen to be the driving force behind the peace talks in the the first place. :lol:
Sorry to burst your bubble but the peace talks will continue Inshallah and we will have a peaceful and stable Afghanistan, in the larger interest of the whole region.
Also the peace talks were proposed and were underway when Mullah Omer was dead already (the same report announcing his death gave the time of death as somewhere in 2012) so it will be pretty much the same team that were handling the situation who will be responsible in future as well. I hope things will remain on track and progress. :pakistan:
 
This sudden apprehensions about the mullah omers death was just to derail the peace talks as we all know who is desperate and who is not.

It might get delayed but Mr. Ghani have no other choice but to go ahead with this peace talks, this is the last chance for bringing lasting peace for the people of Afghanistan and in the region.
 

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