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Afghan endgame: US withdraws military equipment via Pakistan

They will withdraw and we will take the blame for the failure of the war on terror. Sanctions are going to be imposed, I am sure of it. Pakistan must decide its own path and start making some serious decisions right now.



Do you ever think what you wish for. You hate the Americans fine, a great number of people dislike them. But why ignore the fact that even the Afghan Taliban's 80% victims have been Afghan civilians instead of American soldiers. Why don't the taliban just fight the Americans if they are so noble. Look at it for what it is. Its just an excuse by those Wahabi cultists to continue killing innocents in the name of Jihad. What we don't want for Pakistan how can we want for Afghanistan?
Sir if governments will not implement Shariat these kind of groups will rise and try to implement it on their own this may create chaos but this will happen and you can't avoid it at all Sir and how much secular the ***** of society hate them Taliban will be back
 
USA is running way hope Pakistan get some sense and talk to our own people and end this war

Sir Taliban will come no body can stop them from coming back specially when USA running away no body will not stop them

There is no reason to panic or feel pessimistic about the future of Afghanistan. We have laid the ground work for the ANSF (Afghan National Security Forces). The ANSF have already taken the lead in many areas of Afghanistan. We had never planned to stay in Afghanistan forever contrary to many rumors. Our draw down proves everything is getting done according to the plan. With that said, our governments continue to discuss and monitor the situation. The final decision will be taken in conjunction with the Afghan government. At the moment, our forces continue to work closely with the ANSF and assist where necessary. It is also important to keep in mind that we will not risk all the hard work by rushing our exit. We reiterate what Secretary of Defense Leon E. Panetta said recently: “We have poured a lot of blood and treasure in this war over the last 10 years. But the fact is that we have also made a lot of progress as a result of the sacrifices that have been made. And we’re not going to walk backward from what has been accomplished”.

Ali Khan
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
 
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We reiterate what Secretary of Defense Leon E. Panetta said recently: “We have poured a lot of blood and treasure in this war over the last 10 years. But the fact is that we have also made a lot of progress as a result of the sacrifices that have been made. And we’re not going to walk backward from what has been accomplished”.
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I fail to understand how much progress ISAF made if the Taliban are going to return despite the overwhelming firepower available to NATO?
 
US tests withdrawing military equipment through Pakistan
By AFP Published: February 11, 2013
KABUL: The US military has started to withdraw equipment from Afghanistan through Pakistan ahead of next year’s deadline for combat troops to leave the war against the Taliban, an official said Monday.

The US military has started to withdraw equipment from Afghanistan through Pakistan ahead of next year’s deadline for combat troops to leave the war against the Taliban, an official said Monday.

Two convoys, each hauling 25 shipping containers, entered Pakistan at the Chaman and Torkham border crossings on Sunday as part of the US redeployment of equipment from Afghanistan, US Lieutenant Colonel Les Carroll told AFP.

“The passage of these convoys marks the first US shipments from Afghanistan through Pakistan since July 2012,” Carroll said.

Pakistan in July temporarily stopped NATO traffic after gunmen attacked NATO trucks, killing a driver, in the northwestern border town of Jamrud.

Islamabad also imposed a seven-month blockade on NATO traffic passing overland to Afghanistan after US air strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on November 26, 2011.

Carroll told AFP that the two convoys had been sent through Pakistan as a “test” as the military decides how best to withdraw the huge amount of US and NATO equipment in Afghanistan, more than 11 years after a US-led invasion brought down the Taliban.

“There are still 100,000 men and 200 bases. Some of the equipment will stay (in Afghanistan), some of it will be redeployed,” Carroll said.

“We have got to use any feasible way to do that. The northern route and of course air are other solutions.”

Pakistani-US relations have now largely recovered and the outgoing US commander in Afghanistan, General John Allen, and his successor, General Joseph Dunford, on Thursday held talks with Pakistani army chief of staff, General Ashfaq Kayani.

The New York Times reported last month that in the next two years NATO forces are expected to remove about 70,000 vehicles and 120,000 shipping containers from Afghanistan, and the way out will require rail lines and well-surfaced roads.

Although Pakistan is the most efficient and cheapest route, the blockade and Pakistan’s past demands for more money have made Western officials wary of over reliance on Islamabad.

The New York Times said officials in Uzbekistan have offered to provide a land route for equipment leaving northern Afghanistan if vehicles and military supplies can be left behind for them.

The so-called Northern Distribution Network accounts for just over 50 per cent of NATO cargo transport and 40 per cent for the United States, which also receives around 30 per cent of its supplies by air.

A Pakistani customs official in Jamrud said that Sunday’s containers came from Bagram, the largest US-run air base in Afghanistan, and were trucked into Pakistan under tight security provided by paramilitary troops.

Hanif Khan Marwat, the president of the All Pakistan Goods Carriers Association, said the convoys were on their way to the port city of Karachi.

“The containers are carrying military equipment. This is the first time that such a big number of trucks are coming back to Karachi with NATO equipment,” he said.
 
Dude, If it happen, Please buy a HMMVVE for me. I am crazy of there Humvee...


@Topic: Anti USA Pakistani were claiming that USA will keep the weapons in Afghan, Whats there posistion now?

Getting a humvee is not much of a problem.
I understand TTP drives their own humvee.

How do you plan to pay for fuel ?
 
There is no reason to panic or feel pessimistic about the future of Afghanistan. We have laid the ground work for the ANSF (Afghan National Security Forces). The ANSF have already taken the lead in many areas of Afghanistan. We had never planned to stay in Afghanistan forever contrary to many rumors. Our draw down proves everything is getting done according to the plan. With that said, our governments continue to discuss and monitor the situation. The final decision will be taken in conjunction with the Afghan government. At the moment, our forces continue to work closely with the ANSF and assist where necessary. It is also important to keep in mind that we will not risk all the hard work by rushing our exit. We reiterate what Secretary of Defense Leon E. Panetta said recently: “We have poured a lot of blood and treasure in this war over the last 10 years. But the fact is that we have also made a lot of progress as a result of the sacrifices that have been made. And we’re not going to walk backward from what has been accomplished”.

Ali Khan
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
Sir Taliban have defeated USA do you seriously think these ANA guys stand a chance they have no chance against Taliban most of them will run away within one week and many of them will join Taliban Sir you will see soon
 
Sir Taliban have defeated USA do you seriously think these ANA guys stand a chance they have no chance against Taliban most of them will run away within one week and many of them will join Taliban Sir you will see soon

Sir please enumerate all the times the Talib has defeated the ANA -- i will help CENTCOM focus and it will help the rest of the forum members realize the titan the Talib are. thank you, sir.
 
Sir please enumerate all the times the Talib has defeated the ANA -- i will help CENTCOM focus and it will help the rest of the forum members realize the titan the Talib are. thank you, sir.
Sir just look at the figures of past one year thousand and thousands of them have been killed and many even surrendered to them
 
Sir just look at the figures of past one year thousand and thousands of them have been killed and many even surrendered to them


Sir, please present a proper post, with what when and where - this is help convince forum members that they need to look at the Talib in a new light, it might even teach this CENTCOM a thing a or two. Thank you, sir
 
Dear Zarvan,

We have worked long and hard to increase ANSF’s capabilities and put them in a position where they can independently lead the security responsibilities. The results have been promising so far! At the same time, we are well aware of the threat the terrorists pose to the nation of Afghanistan. The draw down has begun, but we will continue to assist the ANSF until necessary. We are not rushing our exit! Please keep in mind that we would not risk years of hard work and sacrifices by leaving an improper structure.

This is what Gen. John Allen said recently in regards to the ANSF growing capabilities: “Afghan troops are further along in their capabilities than we had anticipated, and I'm very comfortable frankly with their being in the lead in 2013… This is an acknowledgment of their capabilities. When I got here, we had virtually no battalion level operations under way, and the brigade level operation was only an ambition. Today, every day, there are brigade and corps level operations going on across Afghanistan. In many respects [Afghan troops] are already leading operations, 80 percent of operations across the country are being led by the Afghans right now. So I am confident that in this coming fighting season, where technically they will be in the lead across the country operationally, that they are ready and we will be in support of them.”

Ali Khan
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
 
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