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Not really. SM-1 has better range still You could argue that ESSM Mk. 2 is "better" but it still doesn't make up for range.

With relatively optimistic estimation of 10 airframes produced per month, it would take us roughly 45 years non stop production and money flow to produce 5.000 Kaan fighters lol. Even USA doesn't have (or doesn't plan to have) that many F-35s My very optimistic estimation is 600 units produced...

He has managed to tear the space-time continuum and he's living in 2033 while the rest of the world is living in 2023 He's saying these things because in his parallel universe Turkey has 300 Kaan fighters, 500 Kızılelma and TF2000 destroyers cruising around the oceans of the world :cheesy: I...

Yeah at that point we might not bother with the combat variant if TFX Kaan is ready. Post 2030 there might not be a market in the world for 4th generation fighters. The world is changing, sixth generation fighters are coming. NGAD will change the landscape.

Of course since we have 72 Kızılelma Block 2s in service, Rafale is no match :cheesy: Adam uçuyor amına koyyim evreni fethettin amına kodumun delisi Eski dediğin uçak, yere göğe sığdıramadığın F16 yı ayakta siker şu an. Elimizde 240 tane aesa radarsız F-16, bir filo da zar zor uçan F4 var...

You've lost your damn mind. We're still building TFX Kaan with American engines.And Hürjet, even Gökbey is still flying with CTS-800 If we hadn't bought the S400 we would have multiple active squadrons of F35 right now. It has nothing to do with 2016. You don't know the meaning of...

We used the American F-16 for YEARS against Greece. Nothing happened, Americans kept selling us more F-16s. You're a very stupid person. You speak english but you don't understand the American mindset at all.

It would be a BIG deterrent against France. It would be an amazing capability boost, and more importantly ıt would be a great EXPERIENCE in dealing with a fifth generation fighter. You are too dim witted to see this. Because you are obsessed with Greece.

EuroFighter was offered to Turkey in 2006 with a PARTNERSHIP. Turkey declined it because F35 partnership deal was much MUCH better. We can make TFX today thanks to experience gained by F-35 partnership. Literally everybody with a brain expected Ukrainian war since 2014 (Except you because...

Yes, ignorant retard without any vision. I told you we needed the EuroFighter 3 years ago and you barked at me like a dog. Now go bark at Yaşar Güler if you have the balls.

Retard, what an absolute retard. I say Typhoon or Gripen-E, he says Kızılelma is enough and copy-pastes Beyazıt Karataş's article that I read a million times. What kind of brain death are you experiencing? You think I don't know what MIUS is? Is your father and mother related? cousin...

can we?

What's wrong with being an unquestioning slave? Turks are intelligent people, dönmes ask stupid questions like these I respect the shit I left in the toilet 5 minutes ago more than you. Then why did your leader stop talking about Mavi Vatan? Is it because we can't fight Greece, France...

He should shut the fuckup about Eurofighter because to him Özgür is enough. But he's not a man and he has no shame. As I said the military is a tool designed to accomplish a task, it doesn't matter if our tools are better than Greece's or Egypt's because our tasks are different.

3 years ago he was attacking me like a rabid dog for saying we needed Eurofighters, now that Yaşar Güler said it, he can't say anything. He's basically a loyal dog, whatever Turkish government does is the right thing to do. There's a word called "biat" which is a borrowed word from Arabic, it...

I won't even dignify this stupidity with a response.

We make emergency purchases in order to maintain parity with Greek armed forces, everybody knows that. Right now we don't have any response for the Rafale and everybody knows that too. However, this time it's a bit more serious. I think we should be buying 80-120 Eurofighters, not 40. I hope...

so far I haven't seen any evidence of that, nice if true but I doubt we'll need it. As of yet we have no problems getting the engines we want. no comment This sounds like 1000 Altay tanks by 2020, just 500 times more ridiculous