Iran Imports AK-103 Rifles from Russia [??]

Fafnir said:

Then why didnt iran simply wait and get the superior s400 in a few years rather than get the less capable s300pmu2 now whats the rush?

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No rush, it has paid for it in 2007 and was due then, now President Putin gave the green light and it was delivered.. Iran does not seem to need the S-400 let alone wait inline for it, it has Bavar-373.. we should be a bit patient until it is tested against ballistic missiles as scheduled.. and then make comments!

Fafnir said:

All I said was that bavar is still an unknown quantity we have no way of knowing just how well it compares to the s300 or any other sam for that matter,if that offends your nationalism that really isnt my problem

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The fact you lack the common sense to see the obvious is not my problem. I tried to make it clear for you, but it seems even simplified information is beyond you.

The SC said:

No rush, it has paid for it in 2007 and was due then, now President Putin gave the green light and it was delivered.. Iran does not seem to need the S-400 let alone wait inline for it, it has Bavar-373.. we should be a bit patient until it is tested against ballistic missiles as scheduled.. and then make comments!

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This guy might just be a troll,he keeps repeating the same thing again and again even though you make the situation clear as day for him . I would not waste much time on him if I were you.

Rukarl said:

The fact you lack the common sense to see the obvious is not my problem. I tried to make it clear for you, but it seems even simplified information is beyond you.



This guy might just be a troll,he keeps repeating the same thing again and again even though you make the situation clear as day for him . I would not waste much time on him if I were you.

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Actually all you`ve done is just mindlessly repeat over and over that bavar has nothing to do with the s300 even when I`ve shown you good evidence that bavar is not only conceptually similar its sayyad 4 sam is almost externally a carbon copy of the 48n6 apart from one very minor difference.The only thing that you`ve made clear is that for some strange reason you can not even begin to countenance the possibility that bavar may not be 100% original,I`m sure that next you`ll be insisting that the soumar cruise missile isnt a copy of the kh55 or that the raad sam system wasnt a near copy of the russian buk,hell even the box launchers for the sayyad 2 sam are clearly based on the patriots but I`m sure to you thats all just a big coincidence right?.

Fafnir said:

Actually all you`ve done is just mindlessly repeat over and over that bavar has nothing to do with the s300 even when I`ve shown you good evidence that bavar is not only conceptually similar its sayyad 4 sam is almost externally a carbon copy of the 48n6 apart from one very minor difference.The only thing that you`ve made clear is that for some strange reason you can not even begin to countenance the possibility that bavar may not be 100% original,I`m sure that next you`ll be insisting that the soumar cruise missile isnt a copy of the kh55 or that the raad sam system wasnt a near copy of the russian buk,hell even the box launchers for the sayyad 2 sam are clearly based on the patriots but I`m sure to you thats all just a big coincidence right?.

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You think a completely different guidance fin section is "minor difference" whereas the only similarity you can find is a cable duct (also found in sayyad-3) and some similar shape near the top, I guess the sayyad-3 is also a copy of PAC-3 because it has similair fins and is a straight like PAC-3 missile.

Here is the 48n6 missile:



Here is the bavar missile:


The people whom try to link these obviously system together are trolls like you whom want to find anything to link them together, that's why you use pathetic things such as cable duct etc but ignore the elephant in room i.e the fact they are obviously completely different as the main parts of the missile i.e fin/guidance parts are 100% different pointing to different design. Then again, how can we expect a troll like you to see the obvious?

Fafnir said:

I`m sure that next you`ll be insisting that the soumar cruise missile isnt a copy of the kh55 or that the raad sam system wasnt a near copy of the russian buk,hell even the box launchers for the sayyad 2 sam are clearly based on the patriots but I`m sure to you thats all just a big coincidence right?.

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More nonsense from you, sayyad-4 case should be judged on its own and you're resorting to pathetic excuses now that you have nothing more to say after your weak claims e.g use of cable duct were debunked.

IRGC troops with AK-103 during recent military parade