FM Çavuşoğlu asks Germany to extradite Gülenist prosecutors, judges

Killuminati420 said:

Not extraditing and harbouring wanted terrorists of an organisation responsible for nearly 300 murders is complicity.

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SMS Derfflinger said:

You have to make a decision, last week you wanted to break the neck of Turkey and this week we are brothers?

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Sinan said:

He says we are descents of East Rome......which we strongly refuse.

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Sinan said:

Germany won't hand them over to us.

Yes, i would say MIT to get them...however as you know MIT is shambles.

We need to restructure and reorganize MIT and most of the officials gave the same signal. Then we can begin hunting terrorists in EU.

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CrimsonFury said:

I think within a year or two there will be 2 or more intel departments in Turkey...and in some dark corridors and bunkers they will start training assets for assasinations.

This is the only way to achieve some goals...we should be done asking nicely

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MarkusS said:

This works in two directions.

Do you really want go back to the times when italy (venezia) assasinated your leaders?

I think its crazy how fast turkey falls towards facism. I think we witness the final collapse right now. I feel sorry for people who want freedom and democracy there and a strong country in the world. Not the pathetic place Erdogan imagines.

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MarkusS said:

Italy would not want to assassinate your leaders. But we did in the past. Thats what i mean.

If you start to kill turks who live in italy or other european countries you comitt an hostile act againsts aid country. If you hurt italian citizens during such an operation it would be an act of war.

Italy and no other european nation supports terror anywhere. But we have massive doubts in Erdogan. He appears more and more crazy and deluded. Do you listen his speeches?

That said we know turkey kept ISIS leaders within its boarders, even helped them and created support lines. Since ISIS bite the hand that feeded it Turkey may have changed its official policies but our secret service knows very well. that several AKP politicians as well as local leaders support ISIS and organize support.

Going by your advice i suppose you have no problem when we send "kill teams" to clear up this mess within turkey? Like those who orgnize the oil trade that funnels oil from ISIS oil fields to turkish ports.

We have one goal: crushing ISIS. As long any ISIS member lives we aren´t safe. We pursue them to the end of the earth. Evrything else is dust in the wind my friend.

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CrimsonFury said:

We have been killing more isis than all EU countries put together (because you let your extremist youth come to our country so that you dont have to deal with them but we do..). As for hostile acts dont make me laugh if you shelter terrorists you ARE hostile. All the Gulenist and PKK pigs should be extradited back here. If not they will either be killed or Turkey will just stop cooperating on key issues like refugees. I really hope my country gets rid of this cancerous influence of the EU..no benefit only harm.

It is good that you say you pursue ISIS...but its even funnier that they behead people under your nose (Libya) and you still watch...as a matter of fact the EU is incapable of even finding the extremist ISIS wannabes in its own borders (the maniacs that behead priests and slaughter people in concerts) let alone pursue them ''to the end of the earth'' Lets see your determination there and then we can discuss this topic further

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MarkusS said:

With all due respect. ISIS performed the worst attacks not in France but Turkey. Several hundreds of your people were killed in suicide blasts.

That said we do our best to stabilize Libya. Italy and France both send troops to train the local government. We install a stable government there. ISIS is pushed back in Sirt. Give us time and i´m sure it will be a sucess.

I believe we stand on the same side regarding this. Don´t you agree?

We dont shelter terrorists. You must follow a procedure. You ask for extradiction and you must deliver proves for your cases.

As for the refugees. You wont stop cooperating. We are bound together. We have a chain on our foot. On the other side are you. We may not agree on many aspects but we share interests and if one stumbles the other falls as well.

I would also advice you to not use smileys regarding "terrorist "attacks.

My own country by the will of god was spared yet. But i know from france and turkey that such things create great sorrow.

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CrimsonFury said:

well when a country has several hundred kilometers of border with a shithole of a region and the West sends all its extremist human scum to our country so they can cross over and die in Syria rather than commiting terror attacks in thier European country it becomes inevitable that some of the shitstains sting us. Even the US, a world superpower cant fully stop the flow of illegals and drugs on their Southern Border.

As for extradition..we always follow procedures yet the EU always find an excuse to deny us. A bullet will be the perfect procedure, everyone has a limit on patience and tolerance.

The refugee issue...if in October the EU keeps more excuses to deny the visa waiver we will see what 1000 migrants a day will do. We are not a global trash can of human waste and we are not obliged to host 3 million illegals

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MarkusS said:

We have our failures so have you.

We help you to seal down your border to syria and iraq. We send defense systems there. automatic weaponsystems. The wall you build works only with our systems.

The refugees must leave turkey. I agree but back to syria where they came from. Visa waiver is bound on 72 points. Those points are fullfilled even by brazil and columbia. When turkey fullfills all 72 points there wont be a problem. There are no excuses. Those points stand unchanged since 2013. We wont change them.

Your president is intelligent enough to know that the refugee issue doesnt work as pressure anymore. The balkan route is closed. People who enter illegally are stuck on those 5 greek islands and are put into concentration camps under horrible conditions. They are treated that bad that they pay to get back to turkey.

So i think we agree that we must have a positive relationship.

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CrimsonFury said:

Nah we have plenty of our own automatic weapons systems, we tried them on the rats in the southeast and they work marvellously. The only weapons systems the EU sends is air defence weapons under NATO obligations. Dont overstate what minuscule contribution is presented by the EU.

Lol 72 points http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affair...y_progress_visa_liberalisation_roadmap_en.pdf. We nearly got all of em and even if we fulfill all of them we won't get the visa waiver. And then the fun will begin. As for the refugees, we will shut our borders down too, guess the scum can die win/win.

Yeah we could really do with a more positive relationship, I don't have high hopes for though

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MarkusS said:

When you fullfill those 72 points you get it.

I ask you something. Try to change your point of view. And i´m serious, try to see it from our position. Should we cut points out for turkey that we demand from all others?

We already implemented security checks that allows us to close down after we gave turkey visa waiver program and it shows that too many kurds use this to escape turkey. We have security concerns and you cant denie thats a serious issue.

We are a democracy too. Such things must be in favor of our people as well.

We arent your enemies and i hope you realize that.

Did you ever visit Italy? I welcome you. You will se we arent evil people.

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