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Gurkhas - Which country or people do you associate them with?


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And why are you so botherd by what I think? I already know that they hail from Nepal and are of a Tibeto-Burman stock. I just wanted to see what the perception is. In Britain they are held in high respect but I have not come across anybody who claim they are from Britain because they talk using their mouths, they have two legs and generally belong to the species Homo Sapien.

What I do expect is certain members from certain country go into acrobat mode. By bending and twisting they will conjure up all sort of denominators to show us they are actually Injun and that the British conspired to call them Napali.

And i believe they are on mercenary duty with British, Brunie and Indian armies. Maybe there could be more. It might be a good idea for Pakistan to hire a regiment of them seeing that Nepal is okay with Pakistan. Leaving the combat uses it would give the Indian convulsions. That would be reason enough I should imagine.
Atanz you know that many bodies recovered from Swat operations, you remembered that? our neighbor use rented soldiers against us.
 
And why are you so botherd by what I think?
Blame the other think-tanks here for setting high expectations in terms of intellectual discussions.

What I do expect is certain members from certain country go into acrobat mode. By bending and twisting they will conjure up all sort of denominators to show us they are actually Injun and that the British conspired to call them Napali.

If you cherish in being British colonial wannabe for whatever weird reasons

Atleast get the racial slur right.

Injun is a racial slur for Native Americans, think tank, not Indians.

Kagen apologizes for remark


And i believe they are on mercenary duty with British, Brunie and Indian armies. Maybe there could be more. It might be a good idea for Pakistan to hire a regiment of them seeing that Nepal is okay with Pakistan. Leaving the combat uses it would give the Indian convulsions. That would be reason enough I should imagine.

Finally we have patented Atanz think thank level logic. :D

Lets us ignore the obvious hilarious irony of a regiment vociferously prides in Hindu identity serving in the army of a nation that prides in being a self-proclaimed leader of the Islamic world.

Can Pakistani army afford a Gurkha regiment, with its shoe string budget, let alone compete with British in pay for that matter.

Lastly Nepali perception of Pakistan.

Nepal is only nation in the sub-continent which expelled Pakistani diplomats, not once but twice, for involvement in terror related activities.


BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Nepal expels Pakistan diplomat


Nepal has expelled a senior Pakistani diplomat in connection with the seizure of a large amount of explosives in the capital, Kathmandu.
First Secretary Mohammad Arshad Chima and his wife had been detained on Thursday following a police raid on a private house, in which 16kg of explosives were recovered.

The Pakistani embassy in Kathmandu protested at the detention, saying Mr Chima and his wife were being framed.

Mr Chima is the second Pakistani diplomat to be expelled from Nepal in a year.

Explosives found

He and his wife were arrested when police raided the house where the explosives were found.


It is evident that elements hostile to Pakistan-Nepal friendship are responsible for this unfortunate episode
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Pakistan embassyThe Pakistani diplomat was on the premises at the time.

A spokesman for the Nepalese Foreign Ministry, Gyan Chandra Acharya, said Mr Chima's presence in the house was "incompatible with his diplomatic duties and inconsistent with international conventions".

Mr Acharya told the BBC that the Pakistani Government had assured Nepal that action would be taken against Mr Chima if investigations found him guilty.

Earlier, the Pakistani embassy protested at Mr Chima's detention and said the move violated international conventions.

"It is evident that elements hostile to Pakistan-Nepal friendship are responsible for this unfortunate episode," an official statement said, in what was seen as a veiled reference to India.

The embassy complained that it had been denied access to the couple, in violation of international diplomatic norms.

'Hostile' actions

Last year, Nepal expelled a Pakistani diplomat alleged to have been involved in dealing in counterfeit Indian currency.

In the past, Nepal has also arrested suspected Kashmiri militants in possession of explosives.

India alleges that Pakistani intelligence uses Nepal as a base to back Kashmiri militants and carry out subversive activities inside India.

Pakistan has denied the allegation.

The Nepalese authorities say they are determined to stop activities on their soil directed against any of the country's neighbours.
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BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Nepal expels Pakistani diplomat

Nepal has ordered the expulsion of a Pakistani diplomat allegedly involved in counterfeit currency dealings.
The Nepalese Foreign Ministry said Asim Saboor, the assistant secretary at the Pakistani mission in Kathmandu, had been ordered to leave within 72 hours.

A statement said: "Asim Saboor was involved in acts incompatible with his status. He was therefore was ordered to leave Kathmandu."

Nepalese police took Mr Saboor into custody on Monday following a raid on his residence.

They say they are questioning him about his possible involvement in a counterfeit Indian currency deal.

Police sources claim they have caught Mr Saboor in the act of conducting a transaction with the fake money.

He is alleged to have been in possession of counterfeit Indian banknotes worth about $1,150.

The Pakistani embassy refused to agree to a Nepalese request to waive Mr Saboor's diplomatic immunity.

The embassy says the police raid was carried out without a proper search warrant and that no evidence against Mr Saboor was found.

According to the BBC's Sushil Sharma in Kathmandu, local analysts say the expulsion coincides with Indian allegations that Pakistani intelligence services are using Nepal as a base against India.

India stepped up the allegations following the last month's hijacking of an Indian Airlines plane which took off from Kathmandu.


Given a recent expulsion of a Pakistani diplomat by Bangladesh, I guess a hatrick by Nepal is not far away.

My advice, you should stick threads about Indians riding rickshaws, slums, beauty of snow white Pakistanis.

@Stag112 you are missing out some amazing fantasies here.;)
 
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And why are you so botherd by what I think? I already know that they hail from Nepal and are of a Tibeto-Burman stock. I just wanted to see what the perception is. In Britain they are held in high respect but I have not come across anybody who claim they are from Britain because they talk using their mouths, they have two legs and generally belong to the species Homo Sapien.

What I do expect is certain members from certain country go into acrobat mode. By bending and twisting they will conjure up all sort of denominators to show us they are actually Injun and that the British conspired to call them Napali.

And i believe they are on mercenary duty with British, Brunie and Indian armies. Maybe there could be more. It might be a good idea for Pakistan to hire a regiment of them seeing that Nepal is okay with Pakistan. Leaving the combat uses it would give the Indian convulsions. That would be reason enough I should imagine.

1. A mercenary is any person who:
(a) Is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) Is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar rank and functions in the armed forces of that party;
(c) Is neither a national of a party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a party to the conflict;
(d) Is not a member of the armed forces of a party to the conflict; and
(e) Has not been sent by a State which is not a party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.

2. A mercenary is also any person who, in any other situation:
(a) Is specially recruited locally or abroad for the purpose of participating in a concerted act of violence aimed at:(i) Overthrowing a Government or otherwise undermining the constitutional order of a State; or(ii) Undermining the territorial integrity of a State;
(b) Is motivated to take part therein essentially by the desire for significant private gain and is prompted by the promise or payment of material compensation;
(c) Is neither a national nor a resident of the State against which such an act is directed;
(d) Has not been sent by a State on official duty; and(e) Is not a member of the armed forces of the State on whose territory the act is undertaken.



From the Geneva Conventions:

Article 47. Mercenaries

1. A mercenary shall not have the right to be a combatant or a prisoner of war.
2. A mercenary is any person who:
(a) is especially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;
(c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;
(d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;
(e) is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict; and
(f) has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.

Legionnaires and gurkhas are part of the armed forces of France and the UK, respectively, thus are not considered mercenaries.

Gurkhas are currently recruited into the British Army under the ‘Tripartite Agreement’ reached freely and honourably between the Governments of Nepal, India and the United Kingdom in 1947. They are regular soldiers in the Armed Forces of all three countries. There are some 3,400 Gurkhas in the British Army today.

The Brigade of Gurkhas is a fully integrated part of the British Armed Forces, and Gurkhas perform the same duties as other units at home and abroad in defence of the United Kingdom.

‘Protocol 1 of 1977 (not yet ratified by the United Kingdom) Additional to the 1949 Geneva Conventions’ contains the only internationally agreed definition of a ‘mercenary’ This definition excludes anyone who “is a member of the Armed Forces of a party to the conflict”, thereby effectively excluding Gurkhas in the British and Indian Armies.

The United Nations General Assembly has been considering for some years a possible draft convention against mercenaries, and its definition is likely to be closely modeled on that of the 1977 Additional Protocol, In fact the practice of service in the Armed Forces of a State of which a serviceman is not a national is fairly widespread, and, in addition, many countries send Loan Service personnel and contract officers abroad to work legitimately in the Armed Forces of other States.

Historically the term ‘mercenary’ often conjures up the image of an honourable calling, as portrayed in A E Houseman’s poem ‘Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries’. Latterly it has come to be used pejoratively to represent a disreputable profession, sullied by events in such places as the Congo. However. whatever the perspective, it is clear that the term ‘mercenary’ is not a valid description of the Gurkha soldier in the British Army. It is a term resented by the Government of Nepal and one which we undertake under the Tripartite Agreement not to allow to be used.


A Post like this from a PDF Think Tank does not suit the Profile of the poster.

The rental Nepali soldiers of Indian army.

The Word Gurkha is derived from the Baba Gorakhnath and its meaning is Goo --- Cow + Raksha -- preservation, so Gorkha means the one who fight for the preservation of symbolic word Cow means Hindu. And there is a difference between a Gurkha and Gurkha soldier, in a same way how a Pathan is different than Pathan Soldier.

Now Gurkhas is a term mainly for the Magar, Gurung, Rai, and Tamang, limbus. ethenic people. Gurkhas are not confined to only Nepal, but a large portion of the population also lives in Indian territories.

Now your quote rental Nepali Soldier How ? Are they rented ? If you join Pakistani Army, your profession would be a soldier, and you would be given salary to support your family, if this is rental than you are right they are rental, but not necessary Nepali.
 
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