ZDK-03 Karakoram Eagle AWACS inducted in Pakistan Air Force Squadron 4

ali_raza · Feb 27, 2015

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Imran Khan said:
was.................. now they have 1 saab left in hand

u serious man

انگریز · Feb 27, 2015

We have serial numbers 11-001 , 11-002 , 12-003 and 13-003.

Only 13-003 had the numbers 003 painted on the nose cone.

Viper0011. · Feb 27, 2015

Imran Khan said:
was.................. now they have 1 saab left in hand

There are still 2 Saab's there (plus a training plane without the radar, which is getting one of the destroyed Saab's radar). So two Saab AEW platforms in total. One was lost to a terrorist attack. One was damaged, but the Radar was recoverable and it is being put on to the training aircraft. So you'll have three by mid 2016 I think.

Viper0011. · Feb 27, 2015

Thəorətic Muslim said:
American F-16's have Link 16, it's tactical communication between and only for American weapon
Saab is for the F-16s and other American/ NATO platforms. I think Chinese platforms have JTIDS?

These guys have built a custom solution, which allows them to link through their ground based stations, in an integrated manner. The future implementation will talk to link 16 planes by adding a portable device in the plane. I think once I read that their ground based network solution has latency of like 16 seconds. Which isn't bad considering the PAF being a defensive force and border proximity.

انگریز · Feb 27, 2015

Dunya news clearly states "The AWACS were recently acquired from china" means these are not the existing 4, but a new batch.

Looks like PAF are going for all 8 which were on cards. 4 in the original deal and additional 4 on option.

See we had 11-001, 11-002
Then 12-003 and 13-003

This one is 12-001
, so 12-002, 13-001 and 13-002 must be the new 4.

fatman17 · Feb 27, 2015

No 1. Dun ya news needs to hire a defence journalists.
No 2. This is the 3rd aircraft now operational in No. 4 Squadron after completion of the training of the crew .
No. 3 the serial number of the aircraft is 003. The first 2 are 001 and 002.
No. 4 the ZDK has been re designated KE-03 in the PAF.
No.5 the 4th KE03 still not operational with the air force.

Imran Khan · Feb 27, 2015

انگریز said:
Dunya news clearly states "The AWACS were recently acquired from china" means these are not the existing 4, but a new batch.

Looks like PAF are going for all 8 which were on cards. 4 in the original deal and additional 4 on option.

See we had 11-001, 11-002
Then 12-003 and 13-003

This one is 12-001
, so 12-002, 13-001 and 13-002 must be the new 4.

are we talking abut buy a motor bikes ? :rofl:

Wolf · Feb 27, 2015

hassan1 said:
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"re equipment " of squadron may mean these are replacements for destroyed erieye during mahran base attack.

fatman17 · Feb 27, 2015

The first ZDK-03 (S/N 11-001) was delivered to PAF in December 2011. The 2nd (S/N 12-002) was delivered some time later. The third ZDK-03 (S/N 13-003) was delivered in 2013.

- Last Updated 2/26/15

انگریز said:
Dunya news clearly states "The AWACS were recently acquired from china" means these are not the existing 4, but a new batch.

Looks like PAF are going for all 8 which were on cards. 4 in the original deal and additional 4 on option.

See we had 11-001, 11-002
Then 12-003 and 13-003

This one is 12-001
, so 12-002, 13-001 and 13-002 must be the new 4.

your info is not correct

Wolf said:
"re equipment " of squadron may mean these are replacements for destroyed erieye during mahran base attack.

No 4 Squadron previously was number plated meaning retired. So induction of AWACS is re equipment for the squadron. Nothing to do with erieye and karma incident.

IceCold · Feb 27, 2015

Imtiaz_Sarwar said:
I hope the Chinese AWACS are as good as the American AWACS. I also hope we won't let the Indians shoot one of these down.

Indians dont need to shoot these when they can get it destroyed in peace time through their proxies. I hope PAF protects its assets better this time.

Bratva · Feb 27, 2015

انگریز said:
We have serial numbers 11-001 , 11-002 , 12-003 and 13-003.

Only 13-003 had the numbers 003 painted on the nose cone.

Check 003 Tail number once again, with open eyes. there was no 4th ZDK in the ceremony

DrWatson775 · Feb 27, 2015

Bratva said:
There is a a difference b/w IOC and FOC. Consider example of Eurofighter, It would achieve it's FOC this year in example, 10-11 years after its induction,

There are hardware out there which can communicate directly with Link-16 enabled aircraft. e.g. German rohde and schwarz Software defined radios which are installed in chinese aircrafts comes with the capability of talking with Link-16. What remains for Pakistani side is to configure (write software for ) German SDR. There is already open literature about Link-16, how to communicate with it. Which protocols could work with it. So all in all. what Oscar said is pretty possible

Plan is for the two systems [ (Saab /F16s) and (ZE03/JF17s) ] to be linked via a ground station. Both will transmit to a ground station which will assimilate data from both sources and send it back to both. I dont know how far this has gone and whether it is operational yet or not.

DrWatson775 said:
Plan is for the two systems [ (Saab /F16s) and (ZE03/JF17s) ] to be linked via a ground station. Both will transmit to a ground station which will assimilate data from both sources and send it back to both. I dont know how far this has gone and whether it is operational yet or not.

'' KE03

Bratva · Feb 27, 2015

DrWatson775 said:
Plan is for the two systems [ (Saab /F16s) and (ZE03/JF17s) ] to be linked via a ground station. Both will transmit to a ground station which will assimilate data from both sources and send it back to both. I dont know how far this has gone and whether it is operational yet or not.

'' KE03

It looks good on Paper but is a very bad strategy in Wartime due to latency issues and communication disruption attacks. Consider a scenario, JF-17 over azad kashmir wants to share something with F-16 over Gilgit baltistan in wartime in a very hostile EW environment . Delay added due to EW environment plus the delay added in moving info through ground station would be totally disasterous and render information useless.

Bilal. · Feb 27, 2015

@Oscar what happened to the NECOP project? If I remember correctly, it was supposed to maintain and indigenize Zdk-03 and other CETC sourced electronic systems.

Dalit · Feb 27, 2015

WebMaster said:
APP continues to ruin pics with their shitty logo in the middle.

The same thoughts crossing my mind viewing the jolly moments.

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