Pakistan Behind May Attack on Indian Consulate in Herat, says Afghan Minister

So far afganistan had just only one connection to sea port. I.e thru Pakistan.

India is spending its money to help Afghanistan to help it stand on its own feet.

Pakistan is not allowing any Indian imports to Afghan. We want to send machines , cement plants, steel plants, power plants etc..

Search..Chabhar port in Iran. India after asking Pakistan for a long time, decided to bypass pakistan. One day there will be railway line from Kabul to this port carrying Afghan goods..

Soon China will also do the same.because China is also friend of iran and afghan


So now Pakistan and its Isi are spreading rumers now.


We want Afghan to be a democracy standing on its one...




Just search , how much has India contributed to Afghan, well we the same to bhutan, Burma , maldeves, Nepal and BD.

For them we are not any problem. But pakistan will see anything as a problem

Daedalus said:

The terrorists behind the attack on Indian Consulate in Herat this May had links with Pakistan, Afghanistan has said.

Talking to reporters on the sidelines of a security conference in New Delhi regarding the investigations into the attack, Afghan Interior Minister Mohammed Umer Daudzai said, "Afghanistan is at the crossroads of terrorists. Any investigation into incidents of this sort will lead across the Durand Line".

Afghanistan, he also said, will renew its request for arms and military hardware from India as the US drawdown reaches its final phase over the next three months. Senior Indian security officials are scheduled to visit Kabul this month.

"India is our all-weather friend. Changes in government will not have any ill effect, rather it will have a positive impact. We have requested India for assistance in the security sector, in training, and with some equipment that we may need," he told reporters.

In April 2014, then Afghan President Hamid Karzai had requested India for over 230 types of military equipment, including helicopters and field guns. Mr Daudzai said he expected the request will be acted upon.

The 40,000 US and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) who are still in Afghanistan, will leave between now and December. Afghanistan will continue to depend on air support from NATO and USA, the Afghanistan National Army will be the only force on the ground.

The Afghan army is expanding from 1,92,000 troops to about 2,20,000 troops and needs arms and ammunition to in the fight against the Taliban.

Afghanistan is also considering using China's leverage with Pakistan to rein in the Taliban, Mr Daudzai said.

China is interested in a stable Afghanistan because of the suspected movements of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) through Afghanistan to other central Asian Countries and China, he said. China views the ETIM as a terrorist outfit formed by Uighur militants in Western China who are attempting to secede.

Pakistan Behind May Attack on Indian Consulate in Herat, says Afghan Minister

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No real "may" about it. They were from LeT, 100% linked to the Pakistani state.

The attack happened on the eve of Modi's inauguration, the terrorists had rations and provision with them suggesting they were looking to create a hostage situation with Indian diplomats- coincidence?

But for the excellent work by the ITBP guarding the consulate a major crisis would have loomed for the new PM of India.

rockstar08 said:

Afghans , why i am not Surprised ?

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Trust me, nobody is surprised.

We would have been surprised - nay, shocked - if any credible authority said that Pak was not involved.

Everything is fare in love and war..I do not blame even Pakistan too..The reverse question should be asked to RAW, what prevented them to attack Pakistan consulate in Afganistan?....So why to blame Pakistan and ISI when they are expected to behave like this way only...

Abingdonboy said:

No real "may" about it. They were from LeT, 100% linked to the Pakistani state.

The attack happened on the eve of Modi's inauguration, the terrorists had rations and provision with them suggesting they were looking to create a hostage situation with Indian diplomats- coincidence?

But for the excellent work by the ITBP guarding the consulate a major crisis would have loomed for the new PM of India.

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So a sweeping statement from a afghani minister and a visual examination of dead bodies revealed them to be LET and Pakistan behind the attack... WoW I wonder every crime should be solved in such a visual and putting blame on others manner. Would solve all the world crimes

All modern investigative methods should be dropped as soon as possible and everyone should follow Afghanistan investigative techniques

halfilhal said:

Only Mirza Aslam Beg can better explain you. I am only the Gootargoon.

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Well, since I know already that you're not sure, I knew before I asked you, I'll tell you now.

We in Pakistan seek a friendly and stable neighbour in Afghanistan and naturally we want to see a friendly or neutral government, if it's a hostile government, then they are enemies and the entire debate ends there.

Since our independence, Afghanistan was the only nation not to recognize us as a legitimate state. Since the 1950's is actively pursued anti-Pakistan policies and fuelled anti-Pakistan elements from Balochistan to NWFP. In the 1960's Daoud Khan's Pashtunistan policy led him to push Afghan military and militia into our tribal regions and Bajaur, and for the first time in our history, the army set foot in that region and together with Pakistani tribesman, their hordes became target practise, Ayub Khan punished them for this. Their support of this policy and support of Baloch militants continued into the 70's, Afghanistan was often accused of having separatist training camps inside their territory.

And then came the Soviet invasion, we became involved to protect our own interests and support those elements friendly to us, because again, the Afghans left there were causing us trouble, and whether we chose to or not, we took on millions of refugees and fighters throughout our country. The BLA rose from help in Afghanistan, in fact back then, it called itself communist so that it could receive more support form Afghan communists and Soviet invaders. Then came two civil wars which brought even more refugees and fighting in our own territory and at our doorstep, how could we not get involved? And then came another superpower pushing it's interests before the rest in Afghanistan and causing us irreparable damage the likes of which Pakistan has never seen in it's existence.

And people expect us to give up our own interests!?!? After all we've done?

'Strategic depth' is a fancy name for an old idea, we're just saving our asses, that's all strategic depth is.

Here, have a listen to this man:


Expecting us to jump off a cliff for the sake of falsely perceived morality? No thanks.

janon said:

Trust me, nobody is surprised.

We would have been surprised - nay, shocked - if any credible authority said that Pak was not involved.

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And credible authorities put evidence infront of them before accusing someone else. What evidence so called minister put infront of media?

Bratva said:

So a sweeping statement from a afghani minister and a visual examination of dead bodies revealed them to be LET and Pakistan behind the attack... WoW I wonder every crime should be solved in such a visual and putting blame on others manner. Would solve all the world crimes

All modern investigative methods should be dropped as soon as possible and everyone should follow Afghanistan investigative techniques

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US State department stated it explicitly:

LeT responsible for attack at Indian consulate in Herat: US - The Times of India

As I've read it is not common for the US State department to make such statements so clearly they were trying to prove a point.


The President (then) of Afghanistan said the same:

Hamid Karzai blames Pakistan-based LeT for attack on Indian consulate in Afganistan - Economic Times

'LeT behind attack on Indian consulate in Herat' - Hindustan Times

Bratva said:

And credible authorities put evidence infront of them before accusing someone else. What evidence so called minister put infront of media?

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Really? Do they always put phyical evidence for media scrutiny? What was the evidence displayed on TV after 9/11, for Al-qaeida's role in the attacks? "Evidence" in such cases is not a "smoking gun" that can be paraded on TV. It's obtained through their intelligence and counter intellgence networks.

Oh so anybody had any doubt about that!! The use of the non state actors is the state policy of Pakistan.

Jungibaaz said:

Since the 1950's is actively pursued anti-Pakistan policies and fuelled anti-Pakistan elements from Balochistan to NWFP. In the 1960's Daoud Khan's Pashtunistan policy led him to push Afghan military and militia into our tribal regions and Bajaur, and for the first time in our history, the army set foot in that region and together with Pakistani tribesman, their hordes became target practise, Ayub Khan punished them for this. Their support of this policy and support of Baloch militants continued into the 70's, Afghanistan was often accused of having separatist training camps inside their territory.

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Yes, it is horrible when a neighbouring country pushes militias and fighters into your territory, and support terrorists, and have separatist training camps hosted in their territory, isn't it? Can you think of another country in the region that exhibits that same behaviour?


Now think about India's sentiments about Pakistan, in that light.

Daedalus said:

Talking to reporters on the sidelines of a security conference in New Delhi regarding the investigations into the attack, Afghan Interior Minister Mohammed Umer Daudzai said, "Afghanistan is at the crossroads of terrorists. Any investigation into incidents of this sort will lead across the Durand Line".

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The headline implies a direct allegation against the Pakistani State/State institutions, however, the quote attributed to Daudzai (above) is much more measured - were there additional comments made by Daudzai that justified the headline that the Indian media chose to run with?

janon said:

Yes, it is horrible when a neighbouring country pushes militias and fighters into your territory, and support terrorists, and have separatist training camps hosted in their territory, isn't it? Can you think of another country in the region that exhibits that same behaviour?


Now think about India's sentiments about Pakistan, in that light.

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You broke our Eastern wing the same way and have done exactly that too since.

Get off your moral high ground, you have none.

Abingdonboy said:

US State department stated it explicitly:

LeT responsible for attack at Indian consulate in Herat: US - The Times of India

As I've read it is not common for the US State department to make such statements so clearly they were trying to prove a point.


The President (then) of Afghanistan said the same:

Hamid Karzai blames Pakistan-based LeT for attack on Indian consulate in Afganistan - Economic Times

'LeT behind attack on Indian consulate in Herat' - Hindustan Times

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janon said:

Really? Do they always put phyical evidence for media scrutiny? What was the evidence displayed on TV after 9/11, for Al-qaeida's role in the attacks? "Evidence" in such cases is not a "smoking gun" that can be paraded on TV. It's obtained through their intelligence and counter intellgence networks.

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Likewise, When Pakistan give such statements India and Afghanistan are involved in FATA and Balochistan insurgencies, we become conspiracy theorists or nut jobs. But once it comes to US and Indians or afghanistani statements, Everyone believer it as it is some kind of a gospel truth?

If LeT was involved, on what basis they are claiming this, Intercepts of Pakistani Security apparatus discussing attacks and claiming they did it? , Has afghanistan india or America revealed their handlers no,

Not a single shred of evidence which we can cling to but All we can do is to base our claims on such statements? Desperate much eh ?

Despite widespread open-source reports to the contrary, detainees have
provided little evidence of direct ISI funding of Taliban operations or
training of Taliban personnel. Similarly, there have been no credible
reports from detainees in 2011 of ISI directly providing weapons to the
Taliban.


STATE OF THE TALIBAN
JANUARY 6, 2012
DETAINEE PERSPECTIVES
A summary of reflections on the current state of the insurgency,
ISAF operational effectiveness, external influences shaping the
Taliban, and their views on ending the war and moving forward.
TF-3-10 BAGRAM, AFGHANISTAN

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Abingdonboy said:

No real "may" about it. They were from LeT, 100% linked to the Pakistani state.

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The "May" refers to the month, and does not denote any uncertainity.