Chinese Graziers Pitched Tents in Ladakh in Fresh Incursion Attempt: Sources

incursion should be done that way, so that no one comes to know. Good that such incursions are under watch

Chak Bamu said:

It is a matter of upholding forum rules. Being Pakistani does not automatically give you trolling rights. Call it Khassi Wussy or whatever, if we have rules, we should abide by them. I give leeway when emotions run high and I respect seniority too, but we can not make this forum a place to troll. New posters from anywhere get no leeway, but you guys do because of your seniority.

I have already issued a warning to an Indian troll here. What else do you want? If left to themselves, Pakistanis will convince themselves that they are super duper power and the best place that there is anywhere.

I suggest you read posts by @Icewolf and see the sort of language he uses and how inflammatory and stupid his posts are.

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@DESERT FIGHTER

The mods, admins, and webmaster here don't care if Allah swt or Islam is being insulted. They will issue warnings to infidels abusing or burning the Quran. They are so power hungry that they have forgotten their deen. The rules of the forum are more important than Islam here. Give Allah swt some insults, and you get a warning, but God forbid you disobey the forum rules.

The management of this site are on ultra ego trips, so you can insult Allah swt, but If you dare question them or their rules, then you already know the consequences.

RazPaK said:

@DESERT FIGHTER

The mods, admins, and webmaster here don't care if Allah swt or Islam is being insulted. They will issue warnings to infidels abusing or burning the Quran. They are so power hungry that they have forgotten their deen. The rules of the forum are more important than Islam here. Give Allah swt some insults, and you get a warning, but God forbid you disobey the forum rules.

The management of this site are on ultra ego trips, so you can insult Allah swt, but If you dare question them or their rules, then you already know the consequences.

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Things like that immediate bans. Now stop discussing Mods and say something about the topic. If you have to something more to say about forum, go to GHQ and open a thread.

American Pakistani said:

Facts are facts, Indians are warmongers whereas Pakistanis are peace loving nation but won't tolerate any occupier in their territory.

Now you throw coffee on your keyboard or you p,1. $$ on your keyboard, for all I care.

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Seems you only know how to parrot the same lines over and over...yet have no rationale or visible evidence to back up your claim..
Pretty standard for a Pakistani I would say

Peshwa said:

Seems you only know how to parrot the same lines over and over...yet have no rationale or visible evidence to back up your claim..
Pretty standard for a Pakistani I would say

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Back what claims up? Post videos of Indians jumping up & down for wars, or Indian anchors screaming from the top of their throats, or of Hindutva terrorist groups such as RSS, VHP, etc?

American Pakistani said:

Back what claims up? Post videos of Indians jumping up & down for wars, or Indian anchors screaming from the top of their throats, or of Hindutva terrorist groups such as RSS, VHP, etc?

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So what you're saying is that a few misguided souls represent an entire nation of a billion people eh??

Well then, by those standards Pakistan is very well a terrorist nation right? Because I can present videos showing Pakistanis in acts of terror and killing innocent civilians...

So now please do tell...How are Pakistanis inherently peace loving while Indians war mongerers?

Peshwa said:

So what you're saying is that a few misguided souls represent an entire nation of a billion people eh??

Well then, by those standards Pakistan is very well a terrorist nation right? Because I can present videos showing Pakistanis in acts of terror and killing innocent civilians...

So now please do tell...How are Pakistanis inherently peace loving while Indians war mongerers?

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So you mean those civilians marching in Mumbai for war with Pakistan chanting "We want war against Pakistan" & Indian TV anchors screaming from top of their throats against Pakistan are terrorists?

Not to mention Indian defense analyst bharat verma & that swamy.

As for Pakistanis they are victim of terrorism from India in form of mutki banihi & now TTP.

American Pakistani said:

So you mean those civilians marching in Mumbai for war with Pakistan chanting "We want war against Pakistan" & Indian TV anchors screaming from top of their throats against Pakistan are terrorists?

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Action --> Reaction...
Those civilians didnt just wake up one day and decide lets play war....it was a reaction to Pakistan's involvement in 26/11..Whether justified or not, Indians (few or all) have the right to show their anger against blatant aggression towards civilians. ...

And then what is your take on the fact that Pakistanis came into Mumbai to kill innocent civilians? Speaks of a very peaceful people no?

Not to mention Indian defense analyst bharat verma & that swamy.

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We have our idiot "defence" analysts and you have your lal topi...Whats the difference?

Both do not represent nor influence foreign policy let alone action....this is probably the lamest example you could provide..

As for Pakistanis they are victim of terrorism from India in form of mutki banihi & now TTP.

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Always playing the victim...nothing new about Pakistanis here...
TTP is your own doing as was Mukti Bahini...in the case of the latter, we simply provided the nudge...the momentum came from the resident Bengalis themselves..

Peshwa said:

Action --> Reaction...
Those civilians didnt just wake up one day and decide lets play war....it was a reaction to Pakistan's involvement in 26/11..Whether justified or not, Indians (few or all) have the right to show their anger against blatant aggression towards civilians. ....

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There was no Pakistani involvement. But Indian civilians were chanting for war as they are taught hatred since their childhood.

Who knows it may be RAW terrorism as they are well experienced in spreading terror & supporting groups such as mutki, LTTE, TTP, BLA, etc.

Peshwa said:

And then what is your take on the fact that Pakistanis came into Mumbai to kill innocent civilians? Speaks of a very peaceful people no?.

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There is no confirmation & strong evidence that they were Pakistanis. Many of them are proven Indian citizens & captured ones were speaking Hindi.

Peshwa said:

We have our idiot "defence" analysts and you have your lal topi...Whats the difference?

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The difference is that your "idiot" defense analysts are invited in all major Indian TV channels as guests...that means he have massive following.

Peshwa said:

Always playing the victim...nothing new about Pakistanis here...

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Wrong...it is Indians crying all over the world pretending to be victims & accusing Pakistan to be aggressors.

Peshwa said:

TTP is your own doing as was Mukti Bahini...in the case of the latter, we simply provided the nudge...the momentum came from the resident Bengalis themselves..

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TTP is RAW product launched in 2007 to spread chaos & distract Pakistan's attention from IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir & Indian border...for India, unfortunately TTP is in it's last stages with few breaths left.

mutki terrorists were trained sponsored & armed by Indians.

American Pakistani said:

There was no Pakistani involvement. But Indian civilians were chanting for war as they are taught hatred since their childhood.

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They came from your country..its a proven fact! Even your own government has accepted this..as have the parents of the Ajmal Kasab.

Now we can argue about the level of state involvement, but this much is clear that Pakistan as a country has turned a blind eye to terrorists that target india..and that deserves our anger!

Who knows it may be RAW terrorism as they are well experienced in spreading terror & supporting groups such as mutki, LTTE, TTP, BLA, etc.

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not worth replying to...

There is no confirmation & strong evidence that they were Pakistanis. Many of them are proven Indian citizens & captured ones were speaking Hindi.

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You want to go through the mahabharat again, we can, but hows about I just provide you with this...

Nawaz Sharif says Ajmal Kasab from Faridkot, Pakistan

now before you start crying foul over a blog...do notice there is a video with Nawaz Sharif claiming the same..

Ajmal Kasab visited his village just 3 months ago: Pak TV channel report - The Times of India

The difference is that your "idiot" defense analysts are invited in all major Indian TV channels as guests...that means he have massive following.

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Define massive...We are a country of a billion people...whats massive for you could be a drop in the ocean for us!
Also, any stats to back up your claim or is this just hot air and assumptions?

TTP is RAW product launched in 2007 to spread chaos & distract Pakistan's attention from IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir & Indian border...for India, unfortunately TTP is in it's last stages with few breaths left.

mutki terrorists were trained sponsored & armed by Indians.

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Well as much as I call BS on all this...if true, consider it retaliation for pretty much all the nonsense we have had to face from your side!

Peshwa said:

They came from your country..its a proven fact! Even your own government has accepted this..as have the parents of the Ajmal Kasab.

Now we can argue about the level of state involvement, but this much is clear that Pakistan as a country has turned a blind eye to terrorists that target india..and that deserves our anger!

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Neither we believe NS nor Geo TV. And NS didn't had a govt at that time.

Same as India has turned a blind eye to terrorists in India who are against Pakistan.

Peshwa said:

Define massive...We are a country of a billion people...whats massive for you could be a drop in the ocean for us!

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Here "massive" means majority population of India.

Peshwa said:

Also, any stats to back up your claim or is this just hot air and assumptions?

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You can type bharat verma on YT & there you go...dozens of videos will come up in secs.

Peshwa said:

Well as much as I call BS on all this...if true, consider it retaliation for pretty much all the nonsense we have had to face from your side!

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All the nonsense is & was from India. Remember Pakistan was the country who didn't back stab India while India was fighting a war with China in 1962 unlike India who still occupies Kashmir, meddle in Pakistan's internal affairs in 71 & tried to attack Pakistan in 2008 while Pakistan was busy in Western front.

American Pakistani said:

Facts are facts, Indians are warmongers whereas Pakistanis are peace loving nation

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Yes,warmonger Indians spend just 2% of their GDP in defence while peace loving Pakistanis spend 3%.

American Pakistani said:

Neither we believe NS nor Geo TV. And NS didn't had a govt at that time.

Same as India has turned a blind eye to terrorists in India who are against Pakistan.

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NS and Geo TV have a ton more resources at their disposal than you...unfortunately, your word holds zero credibility, especially when your main argument starts with denial.

Here "massive" means majority population of India.

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I thought according to you guys majority population in India is dirt poor...so how could they be following these morons?

You can type bharat verma on YT & there you go...dozens of videos will come up in secs.

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Coz we all know that ending up on youtube is the ultimate sign of popularity! Get outta here...

And when I say stats, I expect you to provide TRP ratings for that program..NOT conjecture and vague assumptions...If you have TRP ratings available to gauge the popularity of these programs, then we can talk,...else its all hot gas!

All the nonsense is & was from India. Remember Pakistan was the country who didn't back stab India while India was fighting a war with China in 1962 unlike India who still occupies Kashmir, meddle in Pakistan's internal affairs in 71 & tried to attack Pakistan in 2008 while Pakistan was busy in Western front.

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You didn't backstab us because you simply couldnt afford it!

And I think you have done enough backstabbing right from invasion of Kashmir TWICE (47, 65) along with violation of Simla agreement during Kargil..
2008 standoff was justified...as has been discussed to death...yet we held restrain and did not attack!
There is no example you can provide that cannot be countered with Pakistan's act of duplicity...

Why does India not do anything when tents are built in IOK but when we even build a house in Azad Kashmir then India starts crying

gslv mk3 said:

Yes,warmonger Indians spend just 2% of their GDP in defence while peace loving Pakistanis spend 3%.

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Pakistan spend 3% to defend it's borders whereas India spends 2% to occupy foreign territories.