Pathetic Indian Police- FBI analysis of 26/11

[Dr sim]

26/11: FBI officer highlights sloppy response
Vishwa Mohan, TNN, Jul 12, 2010, 03.56am IST
TIMES OF INDIA
Tags:Mumbai attacks|FBI|Ajmal Kasab|Lashkar

NEW DELHI: The security establishment's glaring shortcomings were all too obvious in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks but the FBI officer who coordinated the US probe from Washington has now given a damning indiction of the sloppy response.

Anthony Tindall, who was in the thick of the action at the time, described howi ll-equipped and ill-trained policemen virtually allowed the 10 terrorists to wreak havoc in the metropolis and how it was the US agency which helped them not only in tracing Lashkar's footprints but also getting planners and conspirators arrested in Pakistan.

Sharing lessons from the 26/11 attacks with South Florida law enforcement officers in the US on Wednesday, Tindall said the Mumbai attacks illustrated how terrorists "with little funding and basic weapons" could wreak havoc in a large metropolitan area.

As reported by Miami Herald and Sun Sentinel newspapers in the US, Tindall said many Indian officers (Mumbai cops) who responded were unarmed or lacked the anti-terrorism training that officers in the US have.

Though he did not name any Indian agency, he said logistical constraints had led to a delayed response -- the episode which saw NSG commandos take over 10 hours to reach Mumbai from Delhi. He said, "Other Indian authorities with greater terrorism experience were delayed in responding because they lacked a helicopter among other emergency vehicles."

It is not a secret that the NSG commandos had to first travel to Delhi airport from Manesar in Haryana by road on November 26, 2008 and then had to take bus to reach the attack sites from Mumbai airport the next morning in absence of helicopters.

During his presentation before South Florida law enforcement officers, the US agent also showed video surveillance footage of the Mumbai attacks. As reported in US media, one surveillance video showed that a couple of armed policemen at Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (railway station) had, in fact, ran away instead of confronting two armed terrorists -- an example of how poor training led to a meek response during the crisis.

Referring to Mumbai policemen, the FBI agent, as quoted by Sun Sentinel, said, "Half of those guys were unarmed. That's half the battle right there." The presentation on 26/11 attacks was done to make US policemen aware of such situations so that they could be prepared if a similar crisis confronted them.

Emphasising the role played by FBI, Tindall, who is currently based in Hawaii as the FBI's liaison to the US Pacific Command, said the US agency had immediately deployed eight agents from Los Angeles as well as technicians who were "able to glean significant information from GPS, cellphones, satellite phones, Internet data, financial records, witnesses and boats". He said, "A lot of the information led back to Pakistan."

The FBI special agent, however, also stated that the arrest of Ajmal Kasab -- the lone surviving terrorist -- by Mumbai cops was a major turning point, terming him "an incredible source of information".

 

[Dr sim]

I cannot believe that the Policemen actually ran away leaving the unarmed civilians at the mercy of the bloody terrorists

 

[Break the Silence]

I cannot believe that the Policemen actually ran away leaving the unarmed civilians at the mercy of the bloody terrorists

Ok, tell me what will you do if you have a stick or rusty old 303 rifle in your hand and asked to counter Ak-56 and Ak-47 firing continuosly???

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

and people call Mumbai police the best..it is simply shameful...what happened to the super hyped encounter specialist...even J&K police SOG could have done better than them.

The biggest difference between Indian police and US police is the ATTITUDE...which you cannot buy with money...our police is still following the training given to them from the British Raj days that is "simply to supress people"

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

Ok, tell me what will you do if you have a stick or rusty old 303 rifle in your hand and asked to counter Ak-56 and Ak-47 firing continuosly???

With this attitude i better not think about joining the belt force and rather become a shopkepper...when u wear the uniform you have to serve and protect the people...

I will give you an example...in 1965 war pakistani army was advancing towards jammu city and the gorkhas didnt have any weapons to stop their tanks...you know what they did?...they tied explosives and went in front of the tanks and lay their body under the chains to stop the tanks...this is commitment...if the army thought like this our nation would have never survived.

 

[Patriot]

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I will give you an example...in 1965 war pakistani army was advancing towards jammu city and the gorkhas didnt have any weapons to stop their tanks...you know what they did?...they tied explosives and went in front of the tanks and lay their body under the chains to stop the tanks...this is commitment...if the army thought like this our nation would have never survived.

You got the story backwards my friend.

 

[Break the Silence]

Self-delete

 

[Break the Silence]

With this attitude i better not think about joining the belt force and rather become a shopkepper...when u wear the uniform you have to serve and protect the people...

I will give you an example...in 1965 war pakistani army was advancing towards jammu city and the gorkhas didnt have any weapons to stop their tanks...you know what they did?...they tied explosives and went in front of the tanks and lay their body under the chains to stop the tanks...this is commitment...if the army thought like this our nation would have never survived.

You know what adam, There is vast differevnce between army and police and India..Btw stop blaming police..You know How Kasab captured by forces???? It was the bravery of martyr As.i.. Tukaram omble.
Here is the article below:

By Deeptiman Tiwary
Posted On Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 02:46:27 AM


In July this year, when thousands of jellyfish washed ashore by the Arabian Sea stung visitors on Girgaum Chowpatty, a constable on duty worked tirelessly to keep people off the beach.

When few heeded his warning, he went home and read up on the creature. The next day, he went to the beach with a bagful of lemons, bought with his own money, and administered lime juice on every sting injury as he had read it would provide relief.

This incident was probably a glimpse of the rare quality that led the same man, assistant SI Tukaram Omble, to pounce on a gun-toting terrorist in the wee hours of November 27, and pin him down bare-handed, in spite of five bullets lodged in his body.

Going beyond the defined call of duty was characteristic of 54-year-old Omble, attached to DB Marg police station, whose heroic effort helped police nab one of the 26/11 attackers, Lashkar operative Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab, alive near Girgaum Chowpatty.

Omble never won a medal or showed outstanding bravery in his 34-year career, but his family and friends understand how and why he did it. “Courage, honesty, dedication and commitment were not special virtues for Omble.

They were just an inseparable part of his sense of duty. They just came as a natural response to situations,” says ASI Ashok Phatak, Omble’s friend and colleague for over 22 years.

These virtues, though not always on show, were visible in simple things that Omble did in his daily life. In a force that justifiably cribs about odd working hours and dearth of leave, Omble rarely took a day off, even if he was unwell.

His daughter Vaishali, a private tutor, still remembers the day when her terribly sick father insisted on joining duty for Ganesh Chaturthi as “it was important for him to be there”.

Continuous duty for several days had left him very stressed, and the night before that, he even suffered a mild stroke. Still, he started for work early, ignoring our pleas to stay home,” says Vaishali.

It was this commitment to work that also made Omble a very punctual and methodical policeman. “He believed that if he reached on time, the policeman relieved by him would also be punctual. But if his reliever didn’t turn up for some reason, he would stay back for extra duty and still manage to come on time the next day.

Though he had studied only up to Class IX, he had a very thorough knowledge of law. He was meticulous and kept educating himself,” says constable Sanjay Chaudhary, Omble’s colleague at DB Marg police station.

Adds Phatak, “Omble was never reluctant to take up any duty assigned to him. Never in his career did he try to lobby or persuade his seniors for posting in a ‘good’ department. For him, all departments were the same, based on the same principles of policing.”

Omble, born to a Satara farmer, was the youngest of three sons and a daughter. The unassuming boy who grew up to be a cop now has to his credit an extraordinary feat. The fact that it went unrecognised for many days after 26/11 has hurt his family and friends. But had Omble been alive, it probably wouldn’t have made any difference to him.

Last year, while Omble was on duty at Lamington Road, he saw policemen from Nagpada police station chasing a thief. He set his pet dog after the thief and trapped the miscreant by entering the street from the opposite side.

He then handed over the thief to Nagpada police. No one mentioned his name to the seniors when the operation was over. And Omble never thought it necessary to take credit for it. “That’s how he was. He never worked for a reward,” says Phatak.



Tukaram Omble’s daughter Vaishali says he wouldn’t take a day off even if he was unwell

What happened on 26/11
Tukaram Omble, stationed at beat chowki No.1 at Prarthana Samaj, was summoned to Girgaum Chowpatty on the night of November 26 as word spread that CST had been attacked and the terrorists had fled. Barricades were put up on the road near Girgaum Chowpatty with about 20 policemen, including Omble, manning it.

Around 12.15 am, they got a wireless message that the terrorists had hijacked a Skoda car and were moving towards Marine Drive. The policemen took up position. A few officers, including PSI Bhaskar Kadam, PSI Sanjay Govilkar and API Hemant Bavdhankar went across the road, while Omble remained behind the barricades.

At 12.30 pm, the Skoda approached at high speed, but stopped 50 feet from the barricades. Suddenly, the beam lights went on, and the car swerved towards the barricades. Just before hitting them, it turned right to jump the divider, but got stuck.

Omble was the first to rush out from behind the barricades. Qasab came, out pretending to surrender, with his gun caught between his legs, and lay prostrate on the ground.

But as Omble neared him, Qasab fired. Five bullets entered Omble’s body, but he managed to pounce on Qasab and held him, completely immobilising him for a while. It was enough time for others to overpower Qasab.

In the meantime, Bavdhankar and others lunged towards the driver of the Skoda (later identified as Ismail Khan). He fired, and the police retaliated. Ismail was killed.
“It was all over in a few seconds. Omble with his bare hands had managed to do what has rarely been achieved in the world. He caught a fidayeen alive,” says Bavdhankar.

Tukaram Omble – A extraordinary constable – from Mumbai Mirror When Guru comes Knowledge dawns

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

You got the story backwards my friend.

ya..i knw...maybe those villagers i talked to who witnessed the event were halucinating...SARCASM OFF!!!

 

[brahmastra]

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

@ Break the silence

i know there were brave men too but a force should have all the brave men and no cowards who run away when the nation needs them most.what are they getting paid for..its completely fine if they stop us and fine us unnecesarily but atleast do your duty properly..i am sorry to say this but if the Mumbai police knew a thing or two about Urban Warfare..things would have been very different people...

10 terrorist in the heart of the city killed 200 people and Mumbai police just captured one terrorist and managed to kill one??...isnt it shameful?? And the best part is they ran away too!!!

 

[Kinetic]

and people call Mumbai police the best..it is simply shameful...what happened to the super hyped encounter specialist...even J&K police SOG could have done better than them.

The biggest difference between Indian police and US police is the ATTITUDE...which you cannot buy with money...our police is still following the training given to them from the British Raj days that is "simply to supress people"

Before making idiotic statements first join the police and try to improve it. They fought back and died, what you did?

Indian police force are way way better than US one. There were some faults during Mumbai terror attack but they handle it and they handle it better than what other country's police could do. If it was US police than instead of Mumbai police the civilian casualties would have been much larger. If the 'armed' policemen at CST were from US than instead of fighting back, dying, killing, capturing of terrorists, they would have been run away from the city itself.


Dr Sim our ignorant media specially TOI and Indian Express are curious what US thinking about them!!! and no need to be ashamed, I will give you a three not three and you have to fight against terrorists with AK-56! Will you enjoy it? For a while you will remember 'pathetic' Mumbai police.

 

[Break the Silence]

@ Break the silence

i know there were brave men too but a force should have all the brave men and no cowards who run away when the nation needs them most.what are they getting paid for..its completely fine if they stop us and fine us unnecesarily but atleast do your duty properly..i am sorry to say this but if the Mumbai police knew a thing or two about Urban Warfare..things would have been very different people...

10 terrorist in the heart of the city killed 200 people and Mumbai police just captured one terrorist and managed to kill none??...isnt it shameful?? And the best part is they ran away too!!!

Bro!! you can find exceptions everywhere, even in Army also.. But What I was talking about is that Indian police has not well equipped with good weapons..

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

Before making idiotic statements first join the police and try to improve it. They fought back and died, what you did?

Indian police force are way way better than US one. There were some faults during Mumbai terror attack but they handle it and they handle it better than what other country's police could do. If it was US police than instead of Mumbai police the civilian casualties would have been much larger. If the 'armed' policemen at CST were from US than instead of fighting back, dying, killing, capturing of terrorists, they would have been run away from the city itself.

wow...and your post is full of IGNORANCE!!...ever heard of SWAT or K-9??

I like your patriotism but dont be blinded by it!

 

[Kinetic]

wow...and your post is full of IGNORANCE!!...ever heard of SWAT or K-9??

I like your patriotism but dont be blinded by it!

I don't know whether I am a patriot or not but I don't insult my country and those serving the country on the words of a US 'agent'.

SWAT????? What do you know about them? Are they always run like dogs on the roads of New York????? I would like to give a stick or three not three to a SWAT police and let him fight against a terrorist with AK-56, what do you say? Do you know how many Mumbai policemen died in those days???

Talk is so much easy, isn't it?