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This is a contradiction in itself, according to your teaching im kafir too, and so are 90% of Turks then.

It's your fault. Why do you even respond to him?

@Luffy 500

AKP headquarter
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This is a contradiction in itself, according to your teaching im kafir too, and so are 90% of Turks then.

I don't know who you are. you are in a virtual forum. How would I know whether you are a kaifr or not. if you say you are a non-muslim then I have to accept that. And even if you are a non-muslim what can I do about it? You have the right to believe in what you want.As for turks how can I take your (one individuals) word for it. You do NOT represent turks just like how I do NOT represent BD and last I checked majority turks are hanafi muslims who believe in one GOD and His final messenger Muhammad (peace & blessings of GOD be upon him) and follow basic pillars of islam.

It's your fault. Why do you even respond to him?

@Luffy 500

AKP headquarter
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What would i do with this pic?:lol: you mean ataturk pic? What is it suppose to prove? First of all I do NOT take my religion from AKP or Erdogan or any Individual muslim, organization or party for that matter . I empathize with AKP and erdogan and think that they are the best possible party to rule turkey and allow Islam to flourish in turkish society. AKP is run by humans and as such inevitably commits sins and mistakes. Second its a turkish political party and it has its own domestic calculations regarding turkish society. Third Turkey is unlike any other muslim country with significant secularists, libnerals and athiest population. Obviously I do NOT expect a party like AKP would function the same way MB, jeI or other pro-Muslim/islamic rooted/conservative parties function in the rest of the Muslim world. This pic does NOT necessarily wash away the anti-islamic image ataturk have throughout the muslim world or the crimes against muslims he committed.


Islam itself is a superstition by design.

LOL. Islam condemns and opposes superstitious beliefs in all its shape and forms. What is you definition of superstition btw? Its seems you understand terms and definition from an western world view. Don't want to derail this thread any further but here are some materials you can read about islam's position on superstition:

Myths among the common folk about superstitions
https://islamqa.info/en/97221
 
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Pakistanis are happy over Erdogan's success in this referendum and pray that he will prove to be instrumental in the big events which are to happen in the coming days, weeks, months and years.
 
can be fake video.. no :unsure:

It is fake. You see a table with a bunch of people sitting around it. A 40 sec vid is no proof. You don't now where they are and who they are. Btw, there a similar vids about the opposition. This is just a ridiculous attempt to delegitimize the outcome. They tried the same after the latest US election and Brexit. It's always the same. If liberals don't win, it is no democracy according to many Westerners.
 
It is fake. You see a table with a bunch of people sitting around it. A 40 sec vid is no proof. You don't now where they are and who they are. Btw, there a similar vids about the opposition. This is just a ridiculous attempt to delegitimize the outcome. They tried the same after the latest US election and Brexit. It's always the same. If liberals don't win, it is no democracy according to many Westerners.

Yes, possibility of fake is there. thats why i asked for opinion.
 
Yes, possibility of fake is there. thats why i asked for opinion.
it is not fake it is real and that is the reality in Turkey. don't listen to that guy he is a erdogan fanatic who is living in germany.
 
Yes, possibility of fake is there. thats why i asked for opinion.

For instance, every time my family went to the polling station my father usually just stamped all of our ballots in front of the commission publicly and we put the ballots back into the envelopes and thereafter into the ballot box. That's it. This is (Eastern) Anatolian style democracy. Families are unified in rural east and south east Turkey; they are either left-wing or right-wing. Europeans don't get that.
 
For instance, every time my family went to the polling station my father usually just stamped all of our ballots in front of the commission publicly and we put the ballots back into the envelopes and thereafter into the ballot box. That's it. This is (Eastern) Anatolian style democracy. Families are unified in rural east and south east Turkey; they are either left-wing or right-wing. Europeans don't get that.
No offense , but i love it. lolz
 
For instance, every time my family went to the polling station my father usually just stamped all of our ballots in front of the commission publicly and we put the ballots back into the envelopes and thereafter into the ballot box. That's it. This is (Eastern) Anatolian style democracy. Families are unified in rural east and south east Turkey; they are either left-wing or right-wing. Europeans don't get that.


You should be careful with such statements. In Tuscany for example we are not that different and do same.

What do you mean by "europeans"?
 
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