Pakistan Successfully Tested Babur 3 Cruise Missile launch from Submarine : ISPR

[SecularNationalist]

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A great achievement indeed.
It can take out big indian military installments and target cities as well from Andaman islands and indian ocean.

 

[altor]

Congratulations to Pakistan.

 

[razgriz19]

Can we all just "chanda jama karlen" for 3 high resolution cameras for our armed forces.

I can't even see the missile separation from its water tight container -___-

 

[Penguin]

Large numbers to handle multiple conflicts and mitigate risks make sense. But as you have yourself agreed, it doesn't mean a single asset wouldn't provide credible offence capability.

But there is a fundamental difference between a credible offence capability and a strategic deterrent: the latter has to be available ... always.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Demonstration? Well that has happened numerous times with K15 which is now under production , and is undergoing with K4.

Please let us watch the actual test fire from your sub NOT pontoon. Until then, it's all claims and counter claims.

 

[The Deterrent]

Soon like this year ?

I would provide you with the exact time frame, however the project is lagging behind, a lot. Delays keep popping out, but lets hope this time Pakistan goes through with it in one go (unlike Shaheen-III's multiple launch delays). This is understandable, given the complexity of the system and Pakistan's relative inexperience in this domain.

 

[gambit]

@gambit Sir, watch the video in the opening post and give us your insight.

What do you think of this achievement by a developing state like Pakistan?

It is an excellent weapons platform. Personally, I have always been a fan of the cruise missile.

The cruise missile is the first UAV. Like all missile, it is a one-way weapon. Its subsonic speed is not a flaw and if the aircraft is sophisticated enough to have terrain following and terrain avoidance (TF/TA) capabilities, subsonic flight is an advantage because this speed level allows much greater time for the flight navigation system to create better flight profile over varying terrain.

On the tactical front, the cruise missile have an inherent low detectability index, meaning its launch is difficult to detect. Against an enemy that do not have high altitude monitoring capability, such satellites or AWACS, the flight of the cruise missile also have low detectibility index.

A cruise missile wave attack can, and usually will, soften up the hard defenses of a heavily defended target area, creating defense gaps where smaller and softer targets are vulnerable to precision guided weapons but required human adjudication before destruction. In other words, the cruise missiles exposes those softer targets where I can better use my 2,000 lbs bombs.

How complex/not-so-complex it is to launch a cruise missile from under water and all?

Not at all. The torpedo is launched via high pressured sea water. The problem is not this process but lies in how to change the torpedo from being a submarine into an aircraft.

A vertical launch of a ballistic missile boosts the missile out of the water and into the air in a few seconds. There is no transition to speak of. On the other hand, the torpedo, which is a submarine, must travels underwater for some distance, for safety reasons, before it must change into an aircraft. How do you design such a system ? What kind of sensors would you need to detect water and air ? What kind of timing mechanisms ? These questions are essentially outside of the sub.

 

[Jaanbaz]

What disturbs me is the behavior of one particular poster, who attempts to make out as if I denied Pakistan's existing capability's and who is unable to cope with the fact that one should remain properly cautious in the absense of hard evidence. In short, he makes it into a personal thing, whic it isn't and never was for me. Otherwise congrats Pakistan. Hope you don't mind if I still continue to use my brain, festivities notwithstanding.

So your point was that there isn't sufficient evidence. Okay but please don't expect Pakistan to provide full details just because of the current Geo-Politcs of the region. I heard USA isn't too happy either since it disturbs its plans for installing India as the sole security guard of South Asia.

 

[Penguin]

So your point was that there isn't sufficient evidence. Okay but please don't expect Pakistan to provide full details just because of the current Geo-Politcs of the region. I heard USA isn't too happy either since it disturbs its plans for installing India as the sole security guard of South Asia.

You have have heard many things. Does that mean they are necessarily true? And how do you establish that?
Lot of people make all sorts of claims here. It is not unreasonable to look at what actual information is out there.
What is unreasonable, however, is a poster making a claim and when asked to substantiate it and/or faced with valid arguments to the contrary, that poster turning to personal attacks (rather than than coming up with valid counterpoint(s) or -evidence .

You have a nice day now!

 

[Sloth 22]

Please let us watch the actual test fire from your sub NOT pontoon. Until then, it's all claims and counter claims.

That's something difficult to say.

But one can predict the status of SLBMs , if they are under production.That conveys which system has been integrated and which isn't.

By the way till now , Indian Navy hasn't made any claim with Arihant and 2nd strike capability.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor ‏@OfficialDGISPR 5m5 minutes ago
#Pakistan successfully test fired first Submarine launched Cruise Missile Babur-3. Rg 450 Km. #COAS congrats Nation and the team involved.

https://twitter.com/x/status/818427713627295745

Well there is something fishy i cannot understand here.Initially the missile which was launched is blue or grayish in color but later the missile is red in color? Are they two different missiles ?

 

[Awan68]

Can we all just "chanda jama karlen" for 3 high resolution cameras for our armed forces.

I can't even see the missile separation from its water tight container -___-

Lol there must be a reason for that dont u think so??, maybe they dont want experts to examine the missle closely

 

[Ultima Thule]

Well there is something fishy i cannot understand here.Initially the missile which was launched is blue or grayish in color but later the missile is red in color? Are they two different missiles ?

 

[Khafee]

Tomahawk can travel 1500 miles, why not Babur. Wait for few more years, we will see increase in range.

The difference between the fuel cells.

Can we all just "chanda jama karlen" for 3 high resolution cameras for our armed forces.

I can't even see the missile separation from its water tight container -___-

Missile tests are recorded via high speed HD cameras - 2,000~ 3,000 frames or more per second. That footage is classified, and only a few get to see.

This is why in press releases sometimes old images are recycled, because new ones in low rez are not available.

 

[tarrar]

Congrats to whole of nation.

Meanwhile in India, they cannot stop their crap.