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India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir

Pakistan should maintain their balance ,otherwise they will release those footage and would be a big embarrassment to Pak

Please do, while those rotting Hunumans on LOC deserve a funeral. I hope some cheeky Pakistani soldier manning LOC haven't taken pictures of these departed souls. You know these days even house maid carry smart phones.
 
India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir
50 MINS AGO BY IHSAN QADIR
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Desperate India is furious at the United Nations for rejecting its black propaganda of surgical strike along the Line of Control in Kashmir.

The UN mission monitoring the ceasefire said it “has not directly observed” any firing along the LoC.

Responding to a question on the “surgical strikes” claim of Indian Army in Kashmir, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a daily press briefing that the UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) had not “directly observed” any firing.

“They are obviously aware of the reports of these presumed violations and are talking to the relevant concerned authorities,” he said.

Read more: UN mission finds no proof of Indian ‘surgical strike’ claims

But Indian leadership led by hardliner Prime Minister Narendra Modi is still tweaking the script of the loosely choreographed drama in a desperate bid to fix plot holes in the storyline.

Showing anger at the UNMOGIP in extreme frustration, India’s Permanent Representative to the UN Syed Akbaruddin said the facts on the ground do not change whether somebody has “observed” it or not.

“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.

Akbaruddin said the “facts on the ground do not change whether somebody acknowledges or not. Facts are facts, we presented the facts and that’s where we stand.”

Meanwhile, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh after inaugurating a ‘smart toilet’ in New Delhi on Sunday when quizzed by reporters on doubts raised by Pakistan over the operation as India did not release the footage of the operation, said, “Just wait and watch,” Indian Express reported.

Read more: ‘Just wait and watch’, says Indian Home Minister about evidence of surgical strikes

India claimed on September 29 that it conducted surgical strikes inside Kashmir in revenge attack in Srinagar that killed 18 soldiers.

On the other hand, a Japanese magazine issued a report ruling out the possibility of surgical strikes at the LoC, in the presence of Pakistan’s missile system. “Pakistan’s air surveillance is also highly advanced,” it stated.

The report further said that Indian military is not capable of conducting surgical strikes in the first place, for it lacks the defence equipment required in such operations.

Quite contrary to India’s coward attitude , Pakistani military took local and foreign journalists on a rare visit to forward locations along the Line of Control to debunk the myth of Indian surgical strikes.

The Pakistan Army vehemently rejected all the Indian claims of the so-called surgical strikes, saying that no such incident had taken place and the Indian lies had been exposed before the world.

It said anyone who tried any misadventure inside Pakistan will get response beyond his imagination.

“No such incident has taken place nor any such will be allowed to happen in future and if the adversary attempted so, it will be responded to with an ever strongest force,” Director General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant General Asim Saleem Bajwa said.

Briefing the visiting journalists, representing both foreign and local media, at two different locations along the LoC, Boxor and Hotsping, he said the Indian claims of carrying out surgical strikes across the LoC were baseless, absurd and unfounded, which were meant to not only misguide the Indian people but also the international community.

“No physical violation of the LoC has taken place, nor it will be allowed to happen by our resilient forces,” he reiterated in reply to a question.

“The Pakistan Army is fully prepared to tackle any misadventure and any such attempt will be responded to in a more effective and forceful manner,” he said.

Read more: Denial won’t bring back the dead

General Officer Commanding of Bhimber Sector Major General Chiragh Haider apprised the journalists that no physical violation of the LoC happened on the night between September 28 and September 29 as claimed by the Indian Director General Military Operations.

The journalists were earlier given a full picture about the geographical and physical location at the Boxor Formation by Brigade Commander Brigadier Furqan Moazam. The entire scenario was drawn to make them understand that how the Indian forces had carried out unprovoked firing due to which a Pakistani soldier embraced Shahadat.

At the foothills of Boxor Formation, two villages of about 130,000 inhabitants are situated whose residents have no clue about any intrusion by the Indian troops. They confirmed that only crossfire had taken place on the particular night and nothing else.

The DG ISPR said the visit of media persons was arranged with the purpose that they should independently probe the Indian claim.

The DG ISPR said the ceasefire violation along the LoC was a routine affair and labelling it as a surgical strike was totally baseless and a pack of ‘white lies’. He said in 2003 Pakistan had announced unilateral ceasefire which was later ratified by India. Pakistan, he said, had been exercising maximum restraint by not initiating fire. The Pakistan side, he said, hardly initiated fire while in most of the cases it was the other side which had initiated firing and then it became necessary for Pakistan to silence the guns of the adversary through an effective response.

Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa said same was the case of the night between September 28 and Sept 29 when the Indian side opened fire of small to medium calibre at around 02:00 hours and the same was responded in a befitting manner. The fire from across the LoC continued till 08:00 hours with a matchless response from the Pakistani side and the same morning it was named as a “surgical strike”.

In that specific case, he questioned as to how Indian special forces personnel landed on the Pakistani soil and then left the area without coming into the knowledge of Pakistani troops who were deployed in an alert state.

“If they had sent paratroopers, what was their purpose or aim to be here and how they returned to their country?” he posed another question, referring to the Indian claims.

When asked to comment on the hotline contact between the DGMOs of the two countries, he said they did speak on the issue and the Pakistani DGMO lodged a protest on the incident of unprovoked Indian firing that claimed the lives of two Pakistani soldiers. He had straightaway rejected the claim of Indian DGMO regarding the surgical strike, stating that no such incident had taken place.

The DG ISPR stated that the UNMOGIP with seven posts on the Pakistani side of the LoC had been observing the situation while India had not been offering them access to locations on its side.

Answering a question, he said inadvertent crossing of the LoC was a routine matter and if any such case was found, it would be treated in accordance with the standing order procedures (SOP).

“We are prepared for any eventuality. The other side had been escalating the situation which is being minutely observed by the world forums,” he added.

Pointing out the situation in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK), he said it was the 84th consecutive day of curfew in the IHK where the people had been demanding their right to franchise in accordance with the UN resolutions.

He said the struggle of the IHK people was completely indigenous. The present situation along the LoC, he added, was an Indian attempt to divert the attention of the world forums from the situation in the IHK, especially at the time of UN General Assembly session.

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Loving the indian fristration... come on guys.. Pakistan is not Myanmar or Bangladesh!.. India just achieved humiliation and not any strategic goal.. got their military men killed and captured... thats it!

Wow what a frustrating statement dude :lol::lol: he is just saying you have to take a call that means you guys are open to call it fake

“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.

Did I just see the usual toilet topic by you guys well that how you guys respond when you guys are frustrated :lol:
 
Pakistan will never admit it(due to shame of failure) .And it'll make next strike much easier. :lol: Just like OBL strikes,few Pakistanis still believes that it never happened.What a gullible country.
 
  • Uncertainty and Kashmir

Syeda Afshana
Srinagar, Publish Date: Oct 1 2016 10:00PM | Updated Date: Oct 1 2016 10:00PM

There is an urgent need in Kashmir to comprehend the nuances of public mood, its perseverance, and its right interpretation

his book ‘Cultural Consequences’, Dutch social psychologist Geert Hofstede conceptualizes one of the cultural dimensions known as Uncertainty Avoidance Index (UAI). In simple words, “UAI deals with a society’s tolerance for uncertainty and ambiguity, and indicates to what extent a culture programs its members to feel either uncomfortable or comfortable in unstructured situations that are novel, unknown, surprising, and different from usual”.

In other words, UAI addresses how a society deals with the fact that the future can never be known and as such, tries to control the future or just lets it happen. Different societies in world display varying UAI. As per Hofstede, countries exhibiting strong UAI maintain rigid codes of belief and behavior, and the uncertainty inherent in life is felt as a continuous threat that must be fought. Such societies look for clarity and structure. In low UAI societies, the uncertainty inherent in life is accepted and each day is taken as it comes. Such cultures are generally high-risk takers as they are comfortable with ambiguity and chaos. For instance, Germany has a high uncertainty avoidance index (65) compared to other countries since Germans plan everything carefully and try to avoid the uncertainty. Uncertainty avoidance in US is relatively low as it scores 46 compared to the 65 of the German culture. India, Singapore and Indonesia are also among low scoring UAI countries.

By this conceptual corollary, the present situation in Kashmir marks a very low UAI as the tolerance for the unexpected has proven quite high. The last three months of violent uncertainty has brought up many a characteristic of our collective culture to the fore. Apart from becoming more resilient, we have also tried to sink in the unstructured situation as it swathed us gradually. We in a way turned more fatalistic, seeking no clarity on where we are actually heading. Ambiguity remained a hallmark of our endeavors.

Since raising questions is taken no less than an act of blasphemy here, thinking people just remain silent and switch off their minds. However, in the long run, this doesn’t aid in brushing off the genuine concerns seething up within the people. That a usual fatigue has set in, is no exaggeration. The lack of substantial roadmap, with some innovative viability, is the main cause of distress around. And it’s but natural. Caging the whole population and shutting down life ad infinitum is not at all a natural and enduring way of resolution. No nation in the world history has ever tried this tactic endlessly. Unchanging the old ways and getting fixated with a routine almanac cannot in anyway bring a blatant change.

More importantly, uncertainty warrants a future that looks less clear the more people try to fathom it. While mayhem and mourning becomes a standard feature, the significance of strategy becomes more pressing. This all turns critical when the level of tyranny is extreme and people are persecuted with an iron hand, and there is a massive onslaught of fabrication and propaganda from the adversary. Despite it, indeed people of Kashmir have been relentlessly exhibiting their resolve, and have been able to ruffle international feathers over and again.

Given this scenario, the conceptual fault line in the thinking of resistance leadership needs a revamp. It has to be indigenously original and independent in its viewpoint and decision-making. Of course, there are no plain and painless entries and exits in any consistent struggle, which obviously witnesses highs and lows given the nature of the emerging situations, locally as well as globally. Leadership can outfox it by embracing the realities that dawn with lessons quite meaningful, and at times equally disquieting. There ought to be no shying away from matters of political battlefields that are prone to unimaginable upheavals. Any particular mode of resistance in no way substitutes the movement per se. Modes and movements are not inter-changeable. Both have to be standalone. Beyond the rhetoric whipped up and romanticized by so-called warriors of armchair news-reporting and sadistic cyber-activism.

A celebrated pastor writes, ‘Uncertainty is a permanent part of the leadership landscape. It never goes away. It is not an indication of poor leadership; it underscores the need for leadership’. There is an urgent need in Kashmir to comprehend the nuances of public mood, its perseverance, and its right interpretation by the leadership, without any pretense of certitude. For a few happenings have the power to alter the discourse altogether, there is a call for avoiding uncertainty or letting it hit a dead-end, in a very subtle and sagacious way.
 
Lol don't behave like a kid...Go ahead and release it...!
Not a big deal. If indians govt can do one cheap job, it can do another. May be in few days we might watch a night time strike drama shot by night vision cameras and fake dead bodies in Taliban makeup.
 
Wow what a frustrating statement dude :lol::lol: he is just saying you have to take a call that means you guys are open to call it fake

“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.

Did I just see the usual toilet topic by you guys well that how you guys respond when you guys are frustrated :lol:

You guys you guys you guys .. see who is frustrated ... :omghaha::haha:

Not a big deal. If indians govt can do one cheap job, it can do another. May be in few days we might watch a night time strike drama shot by night vision cameras and fake dead bodies in Taliban makeup.

100 lies to be spoken to save One lie ...
 
Why is Pakistan army hell bent on proving strikes didn't happen?
 
So basically I don't understand why the permanent representative of India in UN is upset that UN has denied this.

On the contrary they should be happy because if UN has accepted then it means they have violated the cease fire agreement which means India would have been more humiliated lol .

Sorry mates but you have just check mate yourself politically there haha
 
Why is Pakistan army hell bent on proving strikes didn't happen?

Because they want the indians to conduct actual surgical strikes and no SirGiKul strikes. It also riles Modi regime up more if they cant even make their gullible people believe in 56 inch chest, forget about the rest of the world.
 

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