Pakistan Air Force Transport

[nomi007]

Ukraine offers cargo planes include world's biggest cargo plane AN-225 with joint production to Pakistan.

Ukrainian Ambassador Volodymyr Lakomov on Sunday said that his government and companies were ready to cooperate with Pakistan in the defence sector with supply and joint production of the world-known cargo plane
“Antonov An-225”, besides other areas.
Ukraine ready to boost defence ties with Pakistan: Envoy

 

[fatman17]

C130 on night mission

 

[fatman17]

Idea
PAF should transfer its CN235s to our navy and request 3- 4 additional C130H from EDA. The navy can convert the CN235S to Turkish Meltem MPA/ MSA as below.

 

[Paksanity]

Idea
PAF should transfer its CN235s to our navy and request 3- 4 additional C130H from EDA. The navy can convert the CN235S to Turkish Meltem MPA/ MSA as below.

Sounds good and practical. I wonder if we can lay our hands on J or have a few modified for AAR role.

 

[araz]

Sounds good and practical. I wonder if we can lay our hands on J or have a few modified for AAR role.

If I remember the Js are quite expensive. We also need to look at how much the turkish upgrades would cost us. It is however a very good and practical idea. We can plea for those on account of natural calamity relief efforts to make it more palatable.
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[Paksanity]

If I remember the Js are quite expensive. We also need to look at how much the turkish upgrades would cost us. It is however a very good and practical idea. We can plea for those on account of natural calamity relief efforts to make it more palatable.
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Yes, that is a good argument to forward. Pakistan is prone to frequent floods and earthquakes. C-130s are critical to humanitarian efforts. If you could recall that US senator's statement against F-16 sales; even he seemed open to idea subsidised deal of C130s with Pakistan. At least apparently. J surely is expensive but still less than half the price of other options like A400M. It may become a viable option down the line when some used ones become available. Still more C130H are good if can be had under EDA.

 

[niaz]

Let us be realistic. Thus far only one AN-225 has been built by the Anotov design bureau which was passed on to Ukraine following the collapse of the Soviet Union. 2nd aircraft is only partially built and apparently needs $300-million to complete. Let also us not forget about cost of training the aircrew and maintenance crews & spare parts for the newly inducted aircraft.

A new C-130 costs about $60-million and a used one for about one tenth of the price. Brand new CN-235 is worth about $35-million. PAF already operates both these air crafts, hence no additional expense for training. Besides, does PAF need such a large transport aircraft and can we afford it?

This is just another ‘Flash in the pan’ and nothing more. Ukraine is only offering this because the power plant was designed by the Ivechenko Design Bureau of Ukraine.

 

[Quwa]

Sounds good and practical. I wonder if we can lay our hands on J or have a few modified for AAR role.

In all likelihood, if the PAF were to ever buy new transports, it will not buy them from the U.S. As mentioned above, not only are the C-130Js expensive, but direct alternatives, such as the Brazilian KC-390 or even Chinese and Russian alternatives, such as Y-30 and IL-214, respectively, can be had more affordably.

 

[niaz]

In all likelihood, if the PAF were to ever buy new transports, it will not buy them from the U.S. As mentioned above, not only are the C-130Js expensive, but direct alternatives, such as the Brazilian KC-390 or even Chinese and Russian alternatives, such as Y-30 and IL-214, respectively, can be had more affordably.

Arguably C-130 is the greatest and most flexible airplane ever built. Its versatility, operating life and safety record is unmatched. PAF received some of her C-130B’s during 1960s and still has 5C-130B’s its fleet. PAF even used its C130’s as bombers in the 1965 war.

PAF entire C-130 fleet used as bomber aircraft in 1965 war

Many C130B’s have logged as much as 3,500 flight hours and Royal Australian Airforce 36 squadron has accumulated 100, 000 accident free flying hours. Besides, why go for new C-130J.? You can pick up a refurbished used C-130E or C-130 H for under $20-million that will provide sturdy service for next 20 years.

PAF has more than 50 year’s experience in its operations. Nevertheless some Pakistanis hate the US so much that they would rather induct a brand new aircraft than go for additional C-130 !!!!

 

[fatman17]

Just a nice pic

 

[fatman17]

PAF is in love with 2 systems
1. F16
2. C130

 

[fatman17]

Y20 to enter Chinese service in 2016 -17

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Anatov 224 is a lovely machine

Can carry tremendous load
Can transport 13-14 Tanks inside
Can move enough food to feed a nation (averting famine)

Just tremendous machine , you can even put a "AWAC radar" on top? and lovely command center inside the plane

I like the plane for its potential to move 100-200 Tanks in few trips between east and western borders

 

[wowh550]

Pakistan brothers forever

 

[fatman17]

Anatov 224 is a lovely machine

Can carry tremendous load
Can transport 13-14 Tanks inside
Can move enough food to feed a nation (averting famine)

Just tremendous machine , you can even put a "AWAC radar" on top? and lovely command center inside the plane

I like the plane for its potential to move 100-200 Tanks in few trips between east and western borders

Too large for PAF requirements