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Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

I told you India itself was an empire which has many nation and faction. Not everybody was united all the time like any other empire. Thats how an empire crumble.
And how british ruled?? Well, how USA rule over Arabian peninsula? Make a kingdom and give it to a king and collect the tributary. In return give protection to the kings. British had a whole bunch of kings all over India who had their small army. They directly administer only the important economic hubs of India.

1. Indian continent was ruled by Multiple Kings in different area, Keep in mind Indian continent has a huge number of different ethnic people, even in small Country like Bangladesh, there are more than Ten local languages.
2. Britain conquered Indian sub continent with divide and rule policy, means made alliance with one ethnic group to conqure other ethnic group.
3. And no, there were not 100s of million Indian subcontinent people, The population you see is post ww2 era. learn fact

You guys are wasting time with this individual. He has it in his head that Turks are some big warrior elite of the world, that will reclaim the Ottoman empire "very soon".

Just sit back and watch the next few weeks and months and relish how humiliated/frustrated he is going to be.
 
I'm talking about during & after we faced Soviet Union & not only pissed them off but also humiliated them. Yes, they revenged by killing Zia Ul Haq in plane crash but thats about it.
You did nothing than sending weapons from US and training terrorists. Afghanistan was defended by high patriotic Afghans. Are you saying if you have declared war on Russia you still be in one piece?
 
It is called warmongers, always liked killing and slathering, that is why when turks conquered area and nothing to do then turned against each other to establish own agenda with blood of own people.
7 centuries of rule in Hindistan with its golden periods - how could they do it? 7 centuries of rule in Eurasia and ME saved the Muslims and Jews from the Crusadrs, orthodox from Catholics - do you think every nation can do it? We were not like European colonists, we tried our best to provide security to the local population and get assimilated. Our fighting skills and motivations did the job. If you don't have it unfortunately you get enslaved. Compare with the current situation and its visible like daylight.
 
7 centuries of rule in Hindistan with its golden periods - how could they do it? 7 centuries of rule in Eurasia and ME saved the Muslims and Jews from the Crusadrs, orthodox from Catholics - do you think every nation can do it? We were not like European colonists, we tried our best to provide security to the local population and get assimilated. Our fighting skills and motivations did the job. If you don't have it unfortunately you get enslaved. Compare with the current situation and its visible like daylight.
:sarcastic: what if i tell you that the people are referring to as great turks are basically descendant of mongolians including your ottoman empire:sarcastic:
 
I find it really funny that Indian members are trying to compare themselves with Turks. An unbiased review of history shows how good Turks are in the battlefield. There was a reason Turks held prestigious military positions in Mughal and other Muslim empires. Turk contingent was the most hard hitting and disciplined part of Muslim rulers of India. I happened to read a candid article by an Indian author who tried to find out why indigenous forces of Marathas lost battles against Mughals again and again despite enjoying many times more soldiers. Recent rhetoric aside, he comes to the conclusion of discipline of Turk soldiers and their enviable ability to execute complex military maneuvers in the heat of battle. Rajput soldiers would take high amount of drugs and opium before battle to make them feel invincible and carry on fighting with injuries. But it also made them confused, undisciplined and unable to carry out commands of their generals although a ferocious individual fighters. On the other hand, Turks laid emphasis on discipline and efficient training. Turk soldiers were strictly kept away from alcohol and drugs prior to battle and engaged in series of training to understand battle signaling through drum beats and flags. On the battlefield Turks were able to hold their formations, move according to changing battlefield situation and change their posturing quickly should the general see an opportunity. Time and again, small Turkish contingents routed Indian crowds of intoxicated soldiers. I really find it funny that someone can poke fun at them like that. I haven't even touched the ability of Turk architects and engineers who designed and built grand buildings.
 
now the time has come and looks like turkey needlessly provoked the russian bear ..... bad times ahead for turkey-ISIS
You guys are wasting time with this individual. He has it in his head that Turks are some big warrior elite of the world, that will reclaim the Ottoman empire "very soon".

Just sit back and watch the next few weeks and months and relish how humiliated/frustrated he is going to be.
Nothing much to say but never forget that today u dance on some1 else floor tomorrow u have to dance even forcibly either u can say it Karma. I never being fortunately seen any Indian show maturity or being little up from the low level thinking. U r never relevant to any else business but still u rant.
 
You guys are wasting time with this individual. He has it in his head that Turks are some big warrior elite of the world, that will reclaim the Ottoman empire "very soon".

Just sit back and watch the next few weeks and months and relish how humiliated/frustrated he is going to be.
We are Muslims and we have the patience of thousand years. Time and space aren't important to us. It's the sublimity of the objective. Winning and losing are distant secondaries to us. Primary objective is to gain the pleasure of our LORD through faith and good work. We know that nobody can undo the Divine Plan.
 
What do you mean? There are lots of targets within 30 miles of Turkish borders and Russians dont cease to bomb them at all.

No there are not.Can you explain an air target except NATO around 30 miles? Bombing does not matter.We explained "Engagement Rules" before. If you cross the border you will be shot down. They knew it but they thought they would do whatever they want.
 
For all Chinese members who are hell-bent on "nuking" Turkey: please keep in mind that what Turkey did is not so different from what China had almost done when US jets violated Beijing's ADIZ in the East China Sea.

Please don't spout the very double stands that you claim to hate.

That is all.
 
For all Chinese members who are hell bent on "nuking" Turkey: please keep in mind that what Turkey did is not so different from what China had almost done when US jets violated Beijing's ADIZ in the East China Sea.

Please don't spout the very double stands that you claim to hate.

That is all.
No aircraft shot down in east China sea. But in this scenario. Some foolish idiot pull the trigger and dig its own grave.

When China tell Abe that even firing tracer rounds is an act of war. Abe drop any idea of firing.

But mad Erdogan is digging grave for all Turkish.
 
You did nothing than sending weapons from US and training terrorists. Afghanistan was defended by high patriotic Afghans. Are you saying if you have declared war on Russia you still be in one piece?
out of countless humiliations soviet union faced by Pakistan. This is one of them.
  • 4 August 1988 – An Su-25 strike jet was shot down by a Pakistani F-16, pilot Alexander Rutskoy safely ejects.
List of Soviet aircraft losses during the Soviet–Afghan War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


LOL now go & cry me a ganga.
 
No aircraft shot down in east China sea. But in this scenario. Some foolish idiot pull the trigger and dig its own grave.

No, but the circumstances under which the two incidents precipitated are similar. Unfortunately, this time, misunderstanding prevailed.
 

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