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The Turkish SOM cruise missile is a fairly good, accurate cruise missile, but it has some major disadvantages :

1- The operational range is very short compared to other cruise missiles, like American Tomahawk, or Russia Kh-55 Cruise missile, with a range up to 3,000 km

2- it travels at subsonic speed, which makes it easy to be intercepted by enemy air defenses or anti-aircraft artillery/guns , Terrain hugging and Sea skimming and low flight altitudes are now considered old school tricks for the advanced Air defenses, like Tor M1/2 , Buk M1/2 , and Pantsir S1, which can easily intercept cruise missile with more than 95% kill probability by first missile.

3. TÜBİTAK SAGE claimed that by 2014, the SOM cruise missile range will be 2,500 km , but this has not been yet achieved , which casts doubt on TÜBİTAK ability to make a precise long range cruise missile that can compete with other well known cruise missiles.


You need satelite to hit target 3000km away. Goal is hit 3000km within 10 years when we have our own satelite.. you have to guide the missile and no radar can guide that distance.. tomahawk is combat proof but the russians claims? Short range cruise missiles are far better than long range. They are accurater then long range.

and its a stealth cruise missile against sams.
 
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Oh god.... check Turkish section to educate yourself....:disagree:

You can start with these:

Turkish Air Force (HVKK)
Turkish Missile/Torpedo Programs

And about

We don't buy cruise missiles, we produce them.

I don't need to check anything, Turkey is impotent...period!
Israel, a small country less then 10% of Turkey population tanned her behind in international waters, and she settled for money...That says a lot and enough...that you are irrelevant...
 
Keep saying that... your knowledge about Turkey formed on your biased opinions.
Absolutely not...I think Turkey has more potential if she put a lot of faith on her abilities and her people than that of others. I am sure you understand what I am saying to you. A country that at one point of history controlled North Africa, the ME, and more than half of Europe shouldn't settle for a US or a NATO fiddler!
 
Absolutely not...I think Turkey has more potential if she put a lot of faith on her abilities and her people than that of others. I am sure you understand what I am saying to you. A country that at one point of history controlled North Africa, the ME, and more than half of Europe shouldn't settle for a US or a NATO fiddler!

No, you don't definetly understand me or you don't wanna understand me...

Nobody is dwelling in our past glories. We moved forward. We have the biggest economy in ME despite having no resources. We are producing %50 of our army equipments and by 2023 we are planing to produce %85 of it, including jet fighters.

Today Turkey is running a strong and free foreign policy. When US formed a coalition and wanted Muslim countries to join, everybody jumped in except Turkey as it didn't fit in our interests.

We listed our priorities and conditions. And agreed the join only if coalition met our terms. I can't understand how can you see Turkey's independent foreign policy as being a cannon fodder for NATO.
 
We listed our priorities and conditions. And agreed the join only if coalition met our terms. I can't understand how can you see Turkey's independent foreign policy as being a cannon fodder for NATO.
I didn't say canon fodder, I said fiddler...In the ME, Turkey should be the conductor of the orchestra. When I mentioned her past as an analogy the ex colonials past ie GB, France, they lost their colonies, but they manage to keep their power... Turkey is better placed to outshine these two..but your leaders lack the visions of Attaturk, idem for the lumping di--cks that rule Algeria.

The Meharis, an elite corps of the Algerian army..
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I didn't say canon fodder, I said fiddler...In the ME, Turkey should be the conductor of the orchestra. When I mentioned her past as an analogy the ex colonials past ie GB, France, they lost their colonies, but they manage to keep their power... Turkey is better placed to outshine these two..but your leaders lack the visions of Attaturk, idem for the lumping di--cks that rule Algeria.

The Meharis, an elite corps of the Algerian army..
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please stop talking like this brother , dont forget that turkish are brothers , and we where one nation for 5 centries ...
the power of turkey is our ....
 
I didn't say canon fodder, I said fiddler...In the ME, Turkey should be the conductor of the orchestra. When I mentioned her past as an analogy the ex colonials past ie GB, France, they lost their colonies, but they manage to keep their power... Turkey is better placed to outshine these two..but your leaders lack the visions of Attaturk, idem for the lumping di--cks that rule Algeria.

The Meharis, an elite corps of the Algerian army..
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Looks like two guys on camels..
 
please stop talking like this brother , dont forget that turkish are brothers , and we where one nation for 5 centries ...
the power of turkey is our ....
We were just discussing, they know where I stand...I have no animosity toward any PDF's participant.. It is just a fuss of over a domino game.

Looks like two guys on camels..
Best trackers for these future bearded wahabi students camels.
 
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Border guards @ the Algerian/Moroccan Border..
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Man you are 14th biggest country when it comes to land but your Army has 110000 Troops
In time of peace, we had a lot less. The number is largely sufficient. Large armies are of the past. Now, it is fire power, integration and coordination between land , sea and air arms, high mobility,command and control and high tech that replaced the foot soldier.
 
In time of peace, we had a lot less. The number is largely sufficient. Large armies are of the past. Now, it is fire power, integration and coordination between land , sea and air arms, high mobility,command and control and high tech that replaced the foot soldier.
Do you have Para Military like we have Rangers and Frontier Corps ?
 
What I agree is that Algeria needs to have around 226 Fighter Jets like SU-30 or SU-35 or Rafale and also get 4 AWACS at least for there Air Force. Current number is even less than UAE Man @Ceylal

Algeria is not going to buy Frenchie c-r-a-p. Algeria is a SOLID Russian ally. It's been like that since 1950s/1960s.

Everything of "strategic" importance from Improved Kilos, Su-30MKA, S-300 PMU2 and soon to be S-400 is from Russia.

No French fighters. Algeria has as mentioned ordered fighters equal to Su-35 from Russia. And the next step after that, in the 2020s is to introduce the PAKFA.

AAF is never going to buy Rafale.

Russian export plan for Algeria regarding PAKFA from 2025 and onwards:

I qoute:

According to CAWAT experts, potential buyers of the PAK FA’s export version include Algeria (projected purchasing period: 2025-2030)

Russian experts upbeat about export prospects for the PAK FA | Russia & India Report


It's all about have weapons, which Algeria can operate without restrictions. Without restrictions means NO Nato country will ever have any significal "leverage" over Algeria. Most of the weapons will therefore be from Russia & China and to some extent Germany, such as German frigates and APCs.

So Algeria will increase the number of aircraft, as it takes time. Remember, Algeria started to take first deliveries of "anything modern" around 2008/2009. So it's only 5-6 years ago. It takes time; however, it has picked up steam lately and 2015 is looking good for Algeria. Chinese and German frigates & corvettes on its way, and preparation for S-400 to arrive in 2016 + more fighters and Mi-28 helicopters.

Algeria doesn't care about terrorist UAE. UAE does not have any free will and it's a U.S. dog.

Algeria does not have any foreign troops on its soil - and doesn't bow down for anyone. Furthermore we are not getting drone bombed by the U.S. , which I think is sad that Pakistan is being, as the U.S. is killing Pakistani civilians.

My point is, it doesn't help you much to have 4-5 times more people that Algeria, and in addition to that F-16 Block 52 and nuclear weapons. The U.S. does what it wants which is to invade your country with troops, and bombing your civilians with drones for years now. This is what the U.S. is doing to someone who is according to them a "MNNA" - major non-NATO ally.

Algeria on the other hand has managed to avoid all this even will a lot smaller force, and despite two wars at its borders (Libya & Mali)

So I think it's impressive and deserves respect. All these other "mighty" armies of the Middle East are totally dependent on the West and their "strings attached" weapons, in addition to the U.S. having military bases everywhere. That's extremely humiliating for some fanboys on here who like to claim "mightyness", while not even being able to stand on their own legs, without U.S. having bases there and dictacting what weapons those countries will buy next, and where and how they are allowed to use them, and against whom.

I agree with you about AWACS as well, but in case of any fight, AAF would operate within Algeria for the most part, defending the nation, under the cover of S-300PMU2 and soon-to-be S-400 SAMs.

So I don't think you would see in any potential fight, Algerian Flankers going way off from its northern coast where most of the population is anyway, along with all strategic and other type of SAMs.

Access to GLONASS which Russia is about to grant to Algeria is another important thing. Doesn't help much to fight any Western country under GPS system; they would just jam and shut down everything.
 
Do you have Para Military like we have Rangers and Frontier Corps ?
We don't now..We had them in the 70's...The only frontier corps that we have, but they fully incorporated in the armed forces are the Meharis composed exclusively of Touaregs, like the picture I showed before. In fact they are an elite corps used in the southern borders with Libya, Niger, Mali, Mauritania, Western Sahara and Southern Morocco. The corps was disbanded in the late 80's and reconstituted in the 90's.
 

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